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The Cooper tie was loaded with sodium chloride,,, not table salt. Sodium chloride tablets were used in Vietnam for dehydration.

Another consideration I forgot to mention was the McCoy hijacking occurring weeks before Hahneman. The FBI caught McCoy and went full into trying to tie him to NORJAK.. meanwhile Hahneman was on the run in Honduras but unidentified. The investigation into McCoy was thorough and well documented in FBI docs while virtually nil on Hahneman. If the FBI thought McCoy was Cooper and focussed resources on him that may have caused them to drop the ball on Hahneman. They did make a public claim for Hahneman that was 100% false, I don't know if that is why he was eliminated or even if he was eliminated. But, that claim, if believed would have eliminated Hahneman. This probably played at least a partial role in it.

I am not one who is confused here,, Besides lying about me you claimed a thoroughly investigated McCoy could be Cooper but Hahneman couldn't because he would have been discovered. You can't even admit your argument is flawed. My point about books is that I don't need to defend a book, there isn't one. I don't have the same motivation as you. You are projecting your motivation onto me. I didn't dodge the question, I gave you two reasons why I am not publicizing my research now. It will jeopardize advancing the case, there are still some things I am working on. and I have thousands of pieces of information, there is no way all that info can be presented properly on a forum like this. I don't owe anybody on this forum anything, that is a crock. I have already done a lot to advance this case. The evidence eliminates KC and most other suspects,, not me. After discussions with you over the years I have zero respect for you. You are a liar, you are incapable of reason and when I have explained things you just ignore it. I don't care what you think, I just don't like your lies. Pointing out the facts of the case is not promoting Hahneman. It isn't just a few lines on a wanted poster. What little is publicly known about Hahneman does not eliminate him, what is known about KC does eliminate him, same for most other suspects. You don't ask polite questions, you outright lie and fabricate... I answered your questions and you just ignore it.. any rational discussion with you is futile. Your agenda is to defend your KC narrative not to uncover the truth. and I don't think you or anyone should accept Hahneman as Cooper, please just reject Hahneman but don't be dishonest and hide behind lies and bogus arguments, and if you have real evidence, not assumptions, that eliminate him let me know. Your lack of credibility doesn't eliminate KC, the case evidence does.

This isn't your personal facebook page..

Listened to Darren’s podcast with Dr. Robert Edwards..https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-flight-305-dr-robert-edwards/ Overall very good, agreed with nearly all of it. Obviously there is more in the book. Some notes, mostly agree, some minor additions. Absolutely, easily survivable jump. Cooper had jump experience, military. Oscillations were felt for most of the trip, the report of oscillations was a rapid increase of needle fluctuation on the gauge which ended with the bump felt in the ears. That bump was simultaneous with the gauge needle at the extreme. Essentially, the bump being simultaneous with an extreme needle oscillation which would have occurred in seconds not minutes. 305 stairs were not locked down. The light was red/amber, red/amber is unlocked. Green is down and locked, no green light noted. Further, the stairs would have been damaged during landing if locked down, the damage was only minor scrapes on the end. The Placard was not inside Norjak. 100% fact. I have a photo. There is no debate, it came from the outside of a passing 727/737. The parachute description came solely from Cossey, he is a proven liar and unreliable. The wind at the LZ was an estimate. Reconstructing the wind drift is valid. The flighpath had a plotting error of 1 mile, it is in the FBI files. In 1973 they discussed recalculating with a 0.5 error using a new method. The common plotted flightpath is generally accurate along v-23 with that 1 mile error consideration. The Dan Cooper magazine was not published in english, but it was published in Mexico in Spanish for Latin America. The French language angle is a red herring. Since Cooper was desribed as Latin/Mexican that becomes more significant. Hahneman worked for the IGY in Latin America which was sponsored by Herge, the Dan Cooper publisher. So there is a connection but I agree the probability is still low, so Darren's comic connection may still be alive, barely. I also have a more likely source for the Dan Cooper name..... NASA. True, the TBAR money most likely came from the River upstream. Although, I did find that the mouth of the Lewis was dredged and dumped above TBAR. One of my theories has the money entering the Willamette.. another the Columbia but the Willamette has a gravel bottom vs the Columbia with a sandy bottom.. if anybody could do an abrasion test for the rounding of the packets that might help. The problem with the FBI/files as data.. there are errors, these are not conclusions but research notes. So, they have a built in error potential.

Blevins, It is not my responsibility to educate you, do you understand that. I have zero interest in sharing my work with you. Hahneman was or wasn't Cooper based on the evidence, not my opinion, advocacy or research. I research this case for my myself, not to flog books or convince other people I am right.. that is your game. You project your game onto me. I just pointed out the Cooper case evidence and that evidence eliminates most high profile suspects and especially KC. The evidence eliminates KC not me.. That isn't putting them down, that is stating the facts of the case. KC was not Cooper, he doesn't match the evidence. It is that simple. KC is a complete waste of time for anybody serious.

I agree,, I started looking at Hahneman thinking that there must be something obvious that eliminates him.. there wasn't, the case got stronger and stronger.. I can't explain the FBI's role.. but all the stuff I have found is overwhelming. I know that elimination based on assumptions is a rookie error. In most solved cold cases, the criminal did previously cross the path of investigators. A few of the facts.. most of these I have already mentioned. A US Government official said he had planned the hijacking for a year. (pre-dating Cooper) Hahneman was looked at by the FBI. The results are not disclosed. Hahneman is redacted from FBI files even though he died long ago. Unlike other dead suspects. The FBI made a 100% false statement that would eliminate him from being Cooper. I don't know why. Hahneman had help/connections at a very high level, they intervened on his behalf. Howard E Hunt was questioned during a hearing on CIA activities about Hahneman's work during the Guatemalan coup. He was in Guatemala. Nobody ever claimed Haheman was Cooper except the hijacked flight crew. Hahneman cut a last minute plea deal and had most charges dropped. The money from his hijacking was hidden in Honduras, recovered a year later. He was only caught because a relative turned him in for the reward. He was not talking and even ordered his attorney not to talk. I have a lot more than newspaper clippings, thousands of pieces of information. He had high level security clearances. I suspect, based on his movements/locations, connections and employers that he did contract work directly and indirectly at times for the CIA.. Was it a simple error or some very high level coverup? If I had to guess, based on what I know, the FBI was likely fed false information from higher up undermining their investigation. But I don't know.

Your post is hodgepodge of nonsensical arguments. You did lie.. I posted your lies.. this is not challenging a suspect. You claim I don't give the FBI credit for wondering if Hahneman was Cooper, I said they did look at him. You claim I believe that the FBI bypassed Hahneman, I never claimed that, they did look at him. You claim (my idea) that the FBI was dumb. I never said that. I said I found either a gross error or a lie. You claim I said the FBI never looked at Hahneman, I have said that they did. You claim the FBI ignored Hahneman, they didn't. You claim I have nothing, you don't know what I have. You claimed all I had was newspaper clippings, I have far more than that and have said so. I am not asking anybody to believe Hahneman is Cooper, they shouldn't, nobody has enough information. It is not my responsibility to educate you on Hahneman. Sorry Blevins, I am not doing this for you. You really make so sense,,, I can't dismiss another suspect because I haven't revealed the case for Hahneman. On what world does that make any sense. This has to be one the nuttiest things I ever read here. Hahneman is completely irrelevant to other suspects, the facts of the case eliminate KC. A suspect being Cooper or not has nothing to do with the credibility of the researcher.. it is the case evidence that determines it and there is no evidence for KC and the case evidence eliminates him. As for credibility, I have much more than you,,, you just don't realize it. The case facts are clear.. you can't challenge them so you attack me. Cooper was Latin/Mexican in features and characteristics and swarthy/olive complexion with a full head of wavy/curly/marceled hair, thin lips and protruding lower.. KC WAS NOT COOPER. He is a complete waste of time. Not only nothing there but the evidence eliminates him.. If you don't believe Hahneman was Cooper based on assumptions, that is fine with me. In fact, I prefer it. It is not my responsibility to change your mind. You just need to stop lying..

You did lie.. repeatedly... you made many false claims attributed to me and continued even after you were corrected. I listed them.. You just ignore the facts,,, to support an irrational argument. I have always said I believe he is based on the evidence that I have short of forensics and I don't expect anyone else to think that.. how can anyone form a conclusion without the information. I have thousands of pieces of information. and I am not insisting Hahneman is Cooper, you have manufactured another lie.. all I do is point out the facts of the case. Those facts eliminate KC and most other suspects. But to protect your KC narrative you can't refute the facts so you attack the messenger with lies. KC was not Cooper, Jarvis's opinion real or imagined, a nod or wink is completely irrelevant.. some agents thought it was McCoy.. Opinions aren't evidence. Meaningless. There is NO evidence for KC and the facts eliminate him. KC is a complete waste of time.. one of the worst Cooper suspects ever pushed. There are suspects that are NOT Cooper like KC, Reca, McCoy, Sheridan, Weber, Barb Dayton, LD Cooper, and there are some that there is not enough info on.. If your suspect is not Latin/Mexican in features and characteristics and swarthy/olive complexion with a full head of wavy/curly/marceled hair, thin lips and protruding lower lip then he is NOT Cooper.. deal with it.

We don't know what the FBI itself concluded about Hahneman. I know they made a false statement about his whereabouts and redacted info that shouldn't be (he's dead) and I know there was (attempted) very high level intervention above the FBI level in "national interests". I also know this case is extraordinary and something extraordinary occurred for it not to be publicly solved. Whatever the FBI concluded, if anything substantive, is mostly irrelevant, they could be right, could be wrong, could have been influenced by other factors. We don't know and unlike other dead investigated suspects they seem to be hiding it. Blevins not only assumes he was eliminated by the FBI but that they are also correct. Neither are a proven fact. Suspects should be eliminated based on facts.. not assumptions. It is that simple. Blevins relies on assumptions because he has no facts. I am not aware of any facts that eliminate Hahneman..

Nonsense, First you still don't recognize your lies.. and you repeat some. You don't know what I have. You have no evidence for KC, opinions are not evidence. You assume that I want to convince people of something. You do, that is your objective, not mine. It is not my responsibility to educate you. IMO, you are incapable of understanding. The actual Cooper evidence eliminates KC. Fullstop. KC was not Cooper. I have already told you, I started with the question.. Why was Hahneman eliminated... and I expected to find something obvious in short order, that didn't happen. So, if you have actual evidence, not assumptions that eliminate Hahneman then let me know. We have actual evidence that eliminates KC. The Hahneman evidence I have makes me believe he was Cooper short of forensics putting him on the plane. I don't think anybody else should believe what I do because they don't have all the info I have. But, putting a suspect on the plane is the clincher and that is extremely difficult to impossible now. However, that is what I have been trying to do. Further, there are still some important lines of evidence I am chasing down and disclosing my case now absolutely puts that in jeopardy. At some point I will be able to explain this.. not now. You just have to trust me, I know what I am doing. I have been moving the case forward just not publicly. You keep assuming that because I haven't revealed all my evidence that I don't have anything.. I don't really care what people think now, I just don't like lies you keep spouting. KC and McCoy were investigated and the FBI kept looking for Cooper but you think they could be Cooper. So, your Hahneman argument is fake, a fraud. The amount of evidence I have is overwhelming and complex and it requires a lot of work to pull it all together into an appropriate form. Hahneman aside, the fact remains Cooper was Latin/Mexican in features and characteristic as well as swarthy/olive complexion. He had thins lips and a protruding lower lip. Dark eyes. He had full hair, wavy/curly/marceled. Sketch B is the most accurate one. Just these things alone eliminate KC and most other suspects. You can spin it, deny it, ignore it and distract from it but it is 100% true. KC was not Cooper, you have no case. There never was one, even Lyle initially told the FBI he had no evidence.

Hayden receipt of Pioneer back chute SN 226, April 21,1975

Expert.. Cooper could have drifted 5 miles along the wind line if a clear and pull jump. The Heisson area East Fork Lewis River chute find is within 5 miles of the flightpath right about the 8:11/12 time..

You still repeat the same nonsense.. and fail to recognize your statements contradict your own argument. I have said many times that I don't expect anybody to believe Hahneman was Cooper because they don't have enough info to judge.. I can't reveal my research yet because it jeopardizes advancing the case in ways I can't mention. This forum is not the right place and this not the right time to make the case.. it is premature and far too complex. You asked some questions that I answered but you just ignored them and repeated the same falsehoods.. it is clear you weren't looking for answers but needed a distraction. and then you kept lying... over and over. How do you feel about liars Blevins? You claim I don't give the FBI credit for wondering if Hahneman was Cooper, I said they did look at him. You claim I believe that the FBI bypassed Hahneman, I never claimed that, they did look at him. You claim (my idea) that the FBI was dumb. I never said that. I said I found either a gross error or a lie. You claim I said the FBI never looked at Hahneman, I have said that they did. You claim the FBI ignored Hahneman, they didn't. You claim I have nothing, you don't know what I have. You claimed all I had was newspaper clippings, I have far more than that and have said so. You claim that if Hahneman was Cooper they'd be able to hang it on him, but not KC or McCoy. So Blevins, why do you keep lying and just make up stuff after you were corrected? Is that how you conducted your KC research? I really don't like having to correct your lies over and over and over.. it isn't very productive for the case and becomes toxic. Have you ever wondered why so many people don't like you.. you are incapable of reason. We have lots of evidence that KC and especially McCoy were looked at by the FBI and you think they could be Cooper, but with virtually no evidence for Hahneman you assume he can't be because he would have been discovered.. Do you even realize that your argument is a contradiction. Are you that unaware. What is really going on is you are going through a cognitive dissonance, the facts I point out about Cooper (not Hahneman) eliminate KC, you feel threatened but can't admit it, you are too emotionally invested.. You can't attack those facts, so you attack Hahneman with an ignorant irrational argument and me, the messenger, with persistent lies... all to protect your investment in the KC narrative. It is futile. KC is dead. Let poor KC go,,,,, release him. Set his soul free. He was not Cooper. You know it.

Irrelevent. The wind data was used for an estimate. That is just a fact.

Priceless.. checkmate Blevins.

I have no problem, you seem to be confused. The FBI stated, as I posted the image several times now that they averaged the wind data from Salem and Portland over 8-9PM, that is an average. That data was used as an ESTIMATE (their word) for Cooper's jump time/place. That is a fact,, it is indisputable,, That ESTIMATE is not a fact.. Why is it an unreliable estimate. Salem is 75 miles from the Lewis R and Portland is 25 miles from the Lewis R. Too far to be reliable. The wind data was averaged over an hour 8-9PM.. not at a specific time like 8:11. So, we don't have data for exactly 8:11 and the direction/speed was an average from far away. Further, other wind data shows that the wind from Seattle to Portland was shifting between the SE and SW.. The conclusion is simple, you can't state as a fact the wind at Cooper's jump time/place was from the SW. It might have been, it might not have been. There is no wind data (not TomK's) at the Cooper jump time/place, so they used an estimate. Why is this so hard to understand,, it is right in the FBI documents. What exactly are you having trouble understanding. Did you actually read the FBI document I posted twice?

Nope, your comment is riddled with false statements. Stuff you just made up. Let me say this, I have a lot more than you think I do. All I did was point out a few of the indisputable facts that are irrelevant to Hahneman.. Cooper was Latin/Mexican in features and appearance as well as swarthy/olive complexion. Cooper had thin lips and a protruding lower lip. You can't accept the truth because it hurts KC's case,, so You attacked me with lies about what I have or don't have when you have no idea, zero. I haven't laid out the case. You have no idea what evidence I have but make false claims over and over about it.. Seriously, you have zero cred on this... you assume I have nothing because I haven't shared it, that is an error in logic and extremely ignorant.

Now that is funny.. I know what winds aloft are and the measured degrees. You have no idea what is going on.. you haven't read the docs, you haven't understood your own errors. You don't understand the issue. The winds aloft for Portland and Salem were averaged over 8-9PM then applied as an ESTIMATE for Cooper's LZ.. that is a fact it is clearly stated in the FBI files. Even the FBI adjusted the direction and created a new search area. Other data indicates that the winds were shifting between SE and SW between Seattle and Portland. The point is simple. It is not a fact that the wind was from the SW at about 8:11 along the flightpath. This is not disputable, it is just the truth. Clearly, you can't see the truth and I really don't know what your argument is..

You still fail to understand basic facts. Some of the data I posted is SE and SSE. Not only did you get the time period and distance wrong, you still fail to understand basic facts and logic. The wind data used was an average of Portland and Salem over an hour time period.. both far from the LZ and much farther from the placard. Look up the word "estimate", it is in the FBI file and the dictionary. It is also free. Like Blevins, there is no discussion if you refuse to accept reality. You guys aren't Cooper rookies, time to up your games.

Cooper's grudge...

Robert99, you have been at this for maybe a decade or so and you still have the basic facts wrong.. I said up to 25 miles from Portland, that is the Lewis River at 8:10. To claim it was not more than 10 miles is 100% false. 10 miles only gets you to Battleground. The wind data used by the FBI was an ESTIMATE from Portland (25 miles away) and Salem (75 miles away) AND it was between 8-9PM.. It says that right in the FBI document. My point is entirely valid,, the wind at the jump spot/time was an estimate, it could have been anywhere between SE to SW and claiming it was from the SW as a fact and using it as evidence is irresponsible. It may have been but it is not known, it was an assumption. You and Eric kept claiming it as fact way up N to where the placard was found which was ridiculous. You were asked for wind data and produced none. Tom Kaye's wind data is little help as it was also too far away but it did show a more southerly wind. You and Eric manufactured a premise for the placard argument and WFP but we now know that the Placard did not come from inside 305..

Robert you keep making claims that are 100% false.. based on assumptions.. I am not going to waste my time giving you all my research to straighten you out, got it. I have corrected you on some of these things and you just repeat the same falsehoods over and over. You just make stuff up. So, from my perspective you are incapable or unwilling to absorb facts. You don't know what you don't know. You are wrong, and your argument is irrational, you can apply the same one to KC. There is far more on the FBI investigating KC than Hahneman. KC was not Cooper, not because he was on the FBI radar and dismissed, but because he doesn't match the description and there is no real evidence to support it. The Latin thing is not a tan in November.. nobody said tan and witnesses overwhelmingly said features and characteristics as well as complexion.. You can deny it and try to spin out of it all you want, it is reality. and I don't care what you or anyone thinks of Hahneman, what bothers me is the false statements and claims just made up out of thin air..

It was up to 25 miles from Portland. (45 miles to the Placard from Portland) You consistently fail to recognize that the wind data is not defined down to the minute, but averaged over an hour. The direction and intensity can vary within that hour. It can vary within a few miles. The winds at Portland averaged between 8-9 are not a very reliable proxy for the wind 20-25 miles North at exactly 8:11/12. My argument is not that the wind was from a specific direction but that we don't know and the often used FBI data is an estimate, not a fact. Using winds from the SW as a fact in an argument is false. IMO, the wind was most likely from the SE to SW... at 8:11/12 on the flightpath.

Yes, there was SE wind, Seattle data.. But the takeaway is there is no data for the 8:10-8:12 time frame at the "jump" location. Even the radiosonde data is too far away to be reliable. All we have are estimates, even the FBI admitted it. Another problem is the winds are averaged over an hour period. Again, not precise. And here are winds for Portland and Seattle, these are ground winds but show a shifting. All other data with winds aloft matches the same direction as ground at that location. In other words, winds aloft matched ground wind direction that night. It shows that the winds were shifting.. further making the argument that the winds at the jump "time/location" are unknown.