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FBI file #56.. the website is screwed up on all my browsers,, this is the direct link, hit and miss File doesn't load in viewer but can be downloaded via link at bottom https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-56-of-56/view elsinore p 20/23/191 campbell no hits eugene no hits shelton no hits egg harbor no hits

FBI file #56 is up in the vault,,, the site is glitchy for me and down right now quick scan,, nothing significant,,, timeframe is Jan - Mar 1972..

Nope,, I just have no patience for you,, pushing the same nonsense theory and when confronted with facts you just ignore them... Your "facts" are wrong... your argument is bogus... the Placard didn't even come from inside Norjak. If I had something wrong about your "theory" then you'd point it out... you can't because you don't have a clue what the facts really are. You've constructed a bogus self serving narrative based on elevating assumptions and conjecture to fact while ignoring the actual evidence. Theories are necessary but when you make up crap and use it to dismiss overwhelming evidence then it isn't a good theory, it is garbage. The only time you ever post here is to claim what I posted is nonsense without any challenge, none.. you have nothing, you always have nothing. If I have something wrong I would like to correct it. You and Ulis just double down on crazy when the facts destroy your theories.. You have and maintain a belief so strong that you refuse to acknowledge any information contrary to it..

You have no clue what you are talking about most of the time.. I have everything correct. If there is anything wrong, challenge it with facts otherwise your comments are just useless beliefs. You spent a decade plus on one theory, the Western Flight Path,,, based on the facts that theory has no merit. Take the L and move on. Trying to discredit others with completley INSANE claims to protect your ego won't fly..

They weren't loafers, that was the media description, not Tina. "ankle length pebble grain shoes, not the tie type"... ARE NOT LOAFERS Hahneman was a 49 YO smoker, diagnosed with terminal cancer,, he leapt with money from 9000 feet after landing walked 10 miles through the jungle... he had a very minor injury.

Not true and a really poor guess Robert99.. TBAR's location made it a dump for garbage.. The River flow hits Sauvie curves right picking up velocity and runs straight at TBAR.. now imagine the money spot about 6 feet underwater.. To make a claim that the money coming from the River flow is nonsense... is literally INSANE.

The western flight path theory has holes in it bigger than Georger's ego.. Eric keeps making claims of fact which are not so. The wind data that R99 and Ulis claim is so far from the placard find location it is meaningless. The closest data is Toledo and had wind from the South. Their wind drift analysis is complete nonsense yet they tout it as fact. Ulis claims the FBI confirmed the Hick's placard came from NORJAK, they did not. In fact, they said after getting the location on the plane from NWA that the placard came from the outside AND that it could have fallen off any passing 727.. ANY PASSING 727. There are only two internal emergency airstair release systems on the 727,, The separate optional emergency release which has its own panel.. a handle is pulled inward and a lock wire breaks. That description is close to the placard.. NORJAK did not have this system. The other emergency system is built into the main handle and to activate it the lever is pushed outward.. that does not match the Hick's placard WHATSOEVER.. The Hick's placard did not come from inside NORJAK,,, I believe it was for the exterior emergency release and could have fallen off any 727. There are other problems with the placard but why beat a dead horse.. The other part found,, Eric keeps claiming it came from NORJAK but the FBI rejected it. Eric keeps referring to it as fiberglass,, it was never identified as fiberglass. There is no indication it came from NORJAK. The other big claim is that the plane must have passed over TBAR because their is no way for the money to get their from the "FBI" central flightpath. This is just poor logic, self serving and goal seeking. Just because we can't confirm how the money got there doesn't mean the flightpath is wrong.. I have been working on an entirely new TBAR theory that breaks open how the money could have moved to TBAR,, it maintains the "FBI" flightpath, the jumpzone and puts the money into the Columbia River in spring matching the diatoms while the money find spot was about 6 feet underwater. The money went into the River in Spring, sank and rolled along the bottom to its spot. That spot was 6 feet underwater at the event time. Effectively that spot was the bottom of the River, the money didn't need to wash to the surface or up to the shore.. There is overwhelming evidence supporting the "FBI" flighpath and all the arguments for the western flightpath are either factually wrong or extremely weak speculation. The western flightpath is dead, stick a fork in it. Somebody, Anybody.

Another good example of bad info used to create a false conclusion is Ulis's refusal to acknowledge the fact that Cooper initially demanded the rear airstairs to be lowered in flight... I have been saying this for a long time but nobody seems to grasp the significance. Long held belief's are tough to change even when contradicted by facts. Forever, we were told by the media and FBI that Cooper demanded airstairs lowered on takeoff and based on that it is reasonable to infer that Cooper wanted to jump fairly soon... even I thought Cooper wanted to jump ASAP until I discovered info in the 302's that state his initial demand was actually airstairs lowered in flight. The pilot transcripts and more recent FBI files show that Cooper did initially demand for airstairs to be lowered in flight. He changed his demand during Reno negotiations with the crew. The fact that Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered in flight demonstrates that he did not initially want to jump ASAP... the facts contradict Ulis's argument. Ulis determined after careful study of the FBI 302's that Cooper wanted to jump near Seattle... well apparently he didn't study the 302's very well.. they don't support that argument, they contradict it. Cooper had a plan when he made his initial demands, that plan changed when the negotiations with crew had the plane landing in Reno. He didn't want to be on the plane landing in Reno.

The Cooper Vortex Podcast with Tim Collins... (2 parts) https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-confessed-to-his-wife-part-one-tim-collins/ I really like Tim Collins logical approach to analyzing information. The real problem with the Cooper case is that there are few concrete facts, lots of inferences and deductions.. some conflicting information. We are forced to make assumptions to advance knowledge.. those assumptions may be correct or not but they are necessary to advance thinking. Tim uses probabilities to analyze and evaluate relationships and I do the same,, it is math, logic and reason applied to relationships and data points. We all have different experiences to bring to that analysis, some are better at it than others. The problem is we don't have all the information, we don't even know what we don't know.. so applying any good analytical methodologies is undermined by the accuracy and comprehensiveness of the information used. The inability to see this flaw leads people to a false confidence in the applied logic... That process may be perfect but if the underlying data is unreliable/inaccurate then we end up with false conclusions. I see this same pattern with all the high profile suspects. For example, not necessarily errors in logic but basic case assumptions. If your premise or assumption is wrong your analysis is wrong. Cooper had cig stains on his right hand. (FBI doc). Tim assumed he had them on the left based on Cooper being seen with his right hand in the case and he used that to support Duane as Cooper. His assumption was wrong and it actually eliminates Duane. The tie was shown to Penny's employees and they indicated that narrow ties had not been sold in a few years.. Tim incorrectly assumes the Cooper tie was from circa 1969.. It was not, the labels on the tie prove it was circa 1964/65.. those narrow ties were made throughout the sixties probably into the 50's but the labels changed over time and Cooper's tie can be roughly dated. The estimate of a couple years old only refers to the shape of the tie not the actual Cooper tie. My personal communications with Jo Weber years ago is that she is an accomplished manipulator and serial liar. Nothing she says or presents can be taken as legit. I feel sorry for Duane... Duane was not Cooper,,, the circumstantial evidence for is very very weak and there is exculpatory evidence, same as most of the suspects. Tim said he doesn't participate in forums and hasn't read all the FBI files... This Cooper case takes more than probabilities and logic, you need a very high level case knowledge.

Bourbon and Seven Up..

The Sky Chef matches most likely came from the plane.. There were two matchbooks.. the ICS one and the Sky Chef one... Cooper's matchbook ran out and was tossed, he retrieved that one. The ICS one. Tosaw…. Cooper used up his matchbook then Tina grabbed a company one from the cabinet. Cooper put the used matchbook in his pocket, Tina remembered the ad on the cover “Earn a High School Diploma” Tina grabbed another matchbook from a cabinet and he "retained that one"... though not explicitly revealed, it had to be the Sky Chef matchbook as they were the caterer for the plane. Otherwise, there had to be three matchbooks involved.. The statements if accurate, evidence and logic indicate that the Sky Chef matchbook came from the plane. FBI files.. "He also wanted the empty matchbook cover from which he had been lighting his cigarettes and had thrown into the back pouch of the seat in front as she said she would do with trash. She indicated he had another book of matches the cover of which was blue and said, ''Sky Chef.” from which she pulled matches to light his cigarettes. He retained this book of matches."

A Northwest Orient drink menu from 1957... Includes six Bourbon's and "soft drinks" include 7up,, no soda. "no tipping please" if served in Washington State tax included..

Bourbon was the top hard liquor drink in the early 70's... it wasn't rare or exclusive. The Dan Cooper comics were published in 16 languages... It wasn't just published in Spanish for Europe.. it was also published in Spanish in Mexico for Latin America. Cooper demanded to fly to Mexico, he was described as swarthy Latin/Mexican in features and characteristics... any potential connection to the Dan Cooper comic would lead to the Mexican Spanish version not the French version of the comic.

Cossey sketchy on his packing records... Cossey claimed he supplied them, the FBI claims they don't have them.. and Cossey did not supply them.. Red flag...

Break the seal?? IMO, it seems unlikely the alternate SN/Date is from the pilot chute, I thought maybe some tag on the outside of the container somewhere. It wasn't the harness, that has a different date.

Norjak passenger Richard Simmons passed away Dec 2020.. https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bellinghamherald/obituary.aspx?n=richard-simmons&pid=197449112 He used the restroom and got a look at Cooper.. at 4:20

Here, Cossey told agent Carr that he had modified the chute... Does this make any sense,,, that Cossey would modify one of two chutes sent to him to pack for somebody he doesn't know. Carr also posted... Ckret #2512 June 12, 2008 Sluggo, The NB6 and the Pioneer were Cossey's chutes, he had them at his house, they weren't at Seattle Skysports. I asked Cossey why he packed a 28 foot canopy in the NB6 and he just shrugged. Kind of like, "it was my chute, I did it because I can." I like that guy, I could have talked to him all day but he grew tired of me in about an hour.

Hayden donated it around 2012-13... The two repacks had nothing to do with the museum.

early 70’s Bourbon nation's top hard liquor https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/254107297/ "MUNCIE EVENING PRESS, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 1974 Vodka replaces bourbon as nation's favorite booze; lightness, mixability with flavors credited By RICHARD HUGHES NEW YORK (UPI) - Belly up to the bar, boys, and have a belt of vodka and orange juice. Vodka and orange juice? 'Fraid so. Vodka has just replaced bourbon as the nation's favorite hard alcoholic drink."

Cossey described the descent rate for both chutes the same... 17 to 18 ft per second.

If they broke the seal and opened it up,, would it need to be repacked by an authorized rigger? Hayden got it back in 1975, repacked in 1982,,, Cossey packed it in 1971 applied his seal. What were the packing regs??

Yes, I know that document, it isn't clear. It is still possible, but other documents say the numbers/date were from the packing card. That could be an error. The other problem is the chute was found unopened intact. They were given to the FBI sealed. They would have had to break the seal, open it and record the number from the pilot chute. Would they even do that? Hayden got the chute back in 1975 and it wasn't repacked until 1982,, if they opened it, broke the seal to look at the pilot chute wouldn't it have been repacked earlier. The chute numbers are only one mystery, there are still conflicts that don't add up. If Cooper did take Hayden's other chute why did Cossey and the FBI describe it so differently from Hayden? Wouldn't they be looking for the wrong chute. There may be several errors at play here..

More context,,, Hayden claimed both his chutes packed by Cossey May 21/71 were "identical". The FBI describes them as very different and cites Hayden as the source,,, Hayden claimed he never talked to the FBI and didn't agree with the descriptions. Hayden has no knowledge of the chutes after they were sent by cab. Cossey and Hayden both claim they didn't know each other. Hayden probably just ordered two back emergency rigs. So, Cossey on Nov 26 is recalling two chutes he made for "somebody unknown" 6 months earlier. Cossey is using recall. He was informed of the chute left behind and assumed he knew the rig Cooper took. He assumed that chute's identity by elimination. One possibility is Cossey recalling the wrong rig... or Cossey did supply his own rig for the hijacking. It doesn't make sense that Cossey would sell two emergency chutes with one having a modified ripcord. If Cossey has the wrong chute in his mind then all the chutes he rejected are back in play. It doesn't help that Cossey was a joker and embellisher. That is why it is important to figure out which chute Cooper actually used. The chute left on the plane was unopened and we have those conflicting serial numbers/dates...

DUDEMAN,, Cossey claimed he modified the ripcord on the rig Cooper took.. not the one returned to Hayden. The ripcord for the Hayden chute we see is not modified. It doesn't really make sense.. If both rigs were actually Hayden's why would Cossey modify one. Remember, Cossey also claimed it was his chute. He said somewhere that the ripcord was a pull out and up or something like that, a double pull. I don't have that handy, might be in a video. Also.. https://themountainnewswa.net/2013/05/04/update-on-the-murder-of-earl-cossey-an-analysis-of-his-role-in-the-db-cooper-case/ "Along those lines, Cossey has never explained why he modified a pilot’s emergency rig to make it more difficult to use. Cossey had told me and many others that he had re-located the rip cord on the chute and had tucked the handle into a pouch under the right arm-pit, thus making the chute a “double-pull.” This meant that Cooper would need two tugs on the rip cord to successfully deploy the rig – one out of the pouch and a second up and away to free the canopy."

The guy at Elsinore was the smoker of Raleighs, he didn't see the suspect smoking Raleigh's, he claims he only saw the coupons in the "suspect's" possession. He assumed the "suspect" smoked Raleigh's because he saw coupons only. He recalled this after studying the Gov report on Cooper's description, four months after the actual incident. BS