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Shutter noted that these bits are likely from Reed island,, that makes more sense.

Who did this... won't embed properly,, watch on youtube.. https://youtu.be/T04cg1PX6nQ

Cooper described as having cigarette stains on right hand... That indicates a long term smoker and likely right handed. Sheridan was a left handed non smoker.

There was a plastic bag and a piece of fabric found on TBAR and taken as evidence. The fabric was consistent with bedding, twin sized 40 x 96. Is that quilted mattress material or bed covering fabric like a quilt?? The 2001 date was a re-evaluation of prior evidence,, obviously, we don't know if it is related to the money but the FBI did collect it.

It is a very dark brown,, appears black. point is Cooper's eyes were described as DARK... not possibly blue..

The FBI files describe Cooper's eyes as : "dark eyes, possibly brown" That doesn't mean possibly Sheridan blue.... IT MEANS DARK, DARK BROWN or BLACK.... Ulis keeps pushing the "possibly brown" as "possibly blue" Cooper's eyes were DARK.

McNally lost the money in the jump and said he thought he'd just do another hijacking. (before he was caught of course)

Speaking of airplane incidents.. A relative of mine was killed on the most famous unsolved plane bombings in Canada. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/bomb-on-board-canadian-airlines-flight-21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Pacific_Air_Lines_Flight_21 Canadian Pacific Air Lines Flight 21 was a scheduled domestic flight from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, to Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada, via Prince George, Fort St. John, Fort Nelson and Watson Lake on July 8, 1965. The Douglas DC-6B plane crashed near 100 Mile House, British Columbia, taking the lives of all 52 aboard. An inquest determined that the explosion was the result of a bomb, but as of 2021 the crime remains unsolved. I researched this and believe that a passenger was likely transporting explosives and the plane was hit by lightning igniting the explosives in a bag next to the outer skin of the plane... IMO but many suspect an insurance scheme.. This incident may have inspired the 1970 movie "Airport"... which may have inspired Cooper...

or Ol' Bill lost the money and pulled another job..

I agree with this.. the use of the term oscillations implies precision but is actually vague. The gauge reads pressure fluctuations, these are pressure bumps.. needle oscillates. Oscillations were observed for some time,, some were "smoother".. not all the same magnitude. Oscillations were "minor" and "major". We have a variation within the oscillations. Anderson suggests multiple bumps. The biggest one as the "so-called" pressure bump... bumps are oscillations on the gauge. Multiple bumps means more than the big one.. The large pressure bump right after Cooper left is an oscillation, it differs in magnitude. The term "pressure bump" was applied after the fact to distinguish magnitude of the large oscillation caused right after Cooper jumped. From Gray's book.. Times... same thing, they imply a precision which isn't there. None of the times are synchronized to any baseline, they are rounded or concatenated to the minute and processed differently using different timing and comms systems. Like herding cats, you can line them up with any prescision. IMO, using those times Cooper most likely jumped about 8:11 +/- 1 minute. Then, where exactly was the plane? We get compounding error rates.. There is a +/- minute error on the flightpath map.. So, on the physical map.. Using a Cooper jump time of 8:11 +/- 1 minute = 8:10 - 8:12 PLUS map error of +/- minute = anywhere along the flightpath map from 8:09 - 8:13.. that is a lot of real estate. We are back to where we started almost 50 years ago.. IMO, the key is figuring out the 8:09 FDR trim adjust,,, ask Rat about it.. why no other FDR "bobs"... why a "bob" at about 8:09 and not when Cooper jumped later,, unless that was Cooper jumping? if so, that could translate up to 8:11 on the physical map.. IDK

I won't hold that against you. There was a tragic plane crash in Canada,, the tower told the snowplow driver to "clear the runway" so he drove out to remove the snow.. The plane crashed into the snowplow. But, I just don't accept your argument as likely. The timestamps were just not accurate enough... the words used at the time were just not that accurate during a time when the crew was trying to understand the situation... This is the Cooper case in a nutshell.. deciphering the unknown while you don't know what you don't know..

I am a professional semantics interpreter.. I have a degree in it. Oscillations on the gauge are pressure bumps,, the confusion is the degree or size.. The crew differentiated later.. after they sorted out what happened. This is frantic,, FACT,, they had been watching oscillations for while already...

I get your point but disagree entirely, you are relying on real time semantics that were revised on reflection. You are trying to interpret the crew's language or lack of clarity at a time that they were unsure of the event. Rat's changing the comment doesn't mean anything. It is a throw away line that carries no weight. Oscillations are pressure bumps... the "so-called pressure bump" was a later term applied by the crew. They didn't know exactly what happened real time. It was a BIG oscillation, all oscillations are pressure bumps. The oscillations were ongoing from well before the 8:05 last contact.. Why make the frantic report at 8:12 if the oscillations had been known for a long time.. The oscillations had changed nature. The jump was right before the "pressure bump"... The crew reported at 8:12 "We're having a baby,,,," Was NORJAK pregnant or giving birth? NORJAK gave birth to a 175 lb swarthy latin skydiver... around 8:11 IMO

From the Anderson interview.. I didn't catch it before.. 8:05 is the last comms with Cooper. "The oscillations continued" "but were smoother"... that means there were oscillations right after the contact with Cooper to slow the plane down and before. "Bill called back"... 8:05 last contact with Cooper after oscillations were smoother. "more time passed" "suddenly came that bump"... more time is after 8:05. 5-7 minutes? 8:05 time 12-13 minutes from the Columbia. So there were oscillations that were noticed for a while, why make the sudden 8:12 report.. these oscillations were different. Bigger. "The stairs weren’t opening like Cooper needed. Cooper called me on the interphone while Tina was riding up front with us. Cooper had let Tina come to the front. He yelled, "slow it down!." I stated back to Cooper, "OK." And we did; we slowed the plane. The oscillations continued, as I remember, but were smoother and we hadn’t heard anything from Cooper. Bill called back to him and he finally answered. He said everything was “OK”. More time passed. And then suddenly came that “bump”. After the final "bump" which we felt with our ears, we all discussed it for awhile, waiting for another bump. It never repeated, so we assumed that was his exit." 7:50-53 quick climb 7000 to 10,000 and hold. 170-180 knots. Crew on O2] 7:54 pm MSP: As soon as reasonably sure the man has left the quicker you can land. 305: Roger. Miss Mucklow said he apparently has the knapsack around him and thinks he will attempt a jump. MSP: Roger. After leaving this freq go to 131.8 we have direct phone patch There (to Company and FBI) 305: Roger. 8:01 pm MSP: What is altitude? 305: Now at 15 thousand. (typo) Indicator 160. Fuel flow 4000. 15 degree flap. Gear down. CQN will stay at 10,000 until he has left. MSP: Roger. 8:05 pm 305: Have attempted on two occasions to make contact with individual he did not reply. Then used PA system and he said, “Everything is Ok”. MSP: Roger. ANDERSON SAID, more time passed from 8:05 = 7 minutes later.. THIS HAS TO BE THE JUMP TIME (mark your maps) 8:12 pm 305: Getting some oscillations in the cabin. Must be doing something with the air stairs. MSP: Roger. Crew discusses and waits to call it in.. 8:20 pm 305: Called. (no response from Cooper) MSP: Go to 131.8 (phone patch to company on that freq.) SEADD: He (Nyrop?) is already on that frequency. MSP: Roger. We are on the phone and will be talking to him shortly. SEADD: Roger

I agree with Darren's money guy,, if the 9700 bills were spent in US one would pop up in circulation eventually,,, people focus on the initial passing of the bills but they would still circulate for years,,, and there were lots of star notes in there, star notes a very collectable.. Cooper either lost the money (if he survived) or the money was taken out of the country and spent. Also, it may be still hidden somewhere,,, BTW,, If Cooper survived but lost the money on land,, would he stick around and look for it?

Drilled down with the smoothed flightpath.. Top yellow is 20:11 at top and 20:13 bottom. Left red line is smoothed FP. Right yellow is max chute drift.. Blue arc is walking distance to Heisson Store by 11:30.. outside that Cooper could not have walked to the store by 11:30. red squiggly = RR tracks Note the large dense forest right in the middle.. Anybody know what that is?? I went back to 1985 and that area was smaller. In 1985 90% of that area was clear open land..

The rate of climb gauge registers pressure changes... oscillations are pressure bumps. Anderson referred to many bumps.. minor and the largest one.. The pressure bump for Cooper leaving was a major oscillation. A series of fluctuations ending in a single pressure event... that suggests a unique short timeframe event. "but it wasn’t a one time event but a series of fluctuations which attracted our attention. I saw it first then alerted Scott and Bill, ending in a single pressure event we felt in our ears" so-called.. "pressure bump" the term used to distinguish the large pressure change/oscillation. "the "rate of descent" gauge that detected the so-called "pressure bump." Largest bump by far.. must of been preceded by smaller bumps aka oscillations. "We all agreed that the gauges were detecting a disruption of airflow, most likely caused by Cooper testing out the aft stairs. But we all felt one physically distinguishable "bump" with our ears which came abruptly after we had been monitoring the gauges. We all felt it almost in unison, surprised, "there he goes!" It was the largest bump by far, an abrupt pressure change." One physically distinguishable bump (vs gauges) "We all agreed that the gauges were detecting a disruption of airflow, most likely caused by Cooper testing out the aft stairs. But we all felt one physically distinguishable "bump" with our ears which came abruptly after we had been monitoring the gauges. We all felt it almost in unison, surprised, "there he goes!" It was the largest bump by far, an abrupt pressure change." Oscillations occurred prior to 8:05, the 8:12 report was not the first notice of oscillations. "The oscillations continued, as I remember, but were smoother and we hadn’t heard anything from Cooper. Bill called back to him and he finally answered. He said everything was “OK”." My take from all the pieces... The "oscillations" on the gauge were minor pressure bumps.. the problem is the crew didn't distinguish at the time between minor and major... they tried to separate the two later. Minor oscillations were occurring for some time noted both before and after the 8:05 Cooper call. The 8:12 Oscillation report was at minimum 7 minutes after oscillations were first noticed. likely much longer. That shifts the entire timeline.. back to the drawing board.. before 8:05 oscillations 8:05 last contact with Cooper smoother oscillations 8:09 bob on FDR, trim adjust 8:10-8:12 Crew reports getting oscillations.. (more minor ones or new major ones = Cooper jump)

Everyone has lost the plot,,, The flightpath map has serious limitations,, Rejecting the "FBI" flightpath" based on the tight curves and erratic direction changes demonstrates a lack of understanding. The plots have 1 mile location error and the line is far too large to represent a 727.. We get a VERY crude path estimation on that map. I went through each plot and marked the error rate to create a wider potential path that was still within the plotting error. Then I drew a smoothed path which is probably far more accurate than that black line.. It completely eliminates the erratic changes and sharp turns.. It may not be the exact flightpath but it is within the plotting error. With this smoothed path everyone should be able to find Cooper's LZ and those crew meals.. The methodology,, I marked each radar plot exactly then added the 1 mile error. I drew two boundary lines one on each each side of those timing marks, the drawn black path line was ignored. It created a two mile wide corridor. Then I drew a smooth path within that corridor, within the radar/marking error. It proves that the path can be substantially smoothed out and still be valid. It may not be the exact path flown by NORJAK.. but it is much closer than the crudely drawn black line and it better reflects a jet's path. Best to open in a new window and expand it to see better. adjusted to see the smoothed path..

Now, you have shifted your argument to later than 8:11.... from had to be after 8:13. But your are applying the same premise. That is why the 8:09 FDR event is important. Crew statement times are just not accurate enough. He left the plane after 8:09... yes,, about 8:11. The FBI analysis had the oscillations at 8:10.. last I checked 8:11 is after 8:10. I am sticking with about 8:11, no matter what the bump oscillations were. My guess is there were oscillations on instruments and larger ones that were noted as bumps until a big one.. Cooper leaving. To argue a time separation proves Cooper jumped after 8:13 you need to have a long period of time between the two events. If they were noted starting at 8:09.. you can have oscillations and the pressure bump before 8:13.. nothing shows it was later. We have 4 minutes between 8:09 and 8:13. That said, it is possible, I just don't accept your argument for it using the 8:12 timestamp, the times just aren't that accurate. To get to the Columbia R Cooper would have to have stood out on the stairs for 8-9 minutes.

Your assumption in incorrect, the 8:12 time stamp is not accurate enough to support your argument. I believe the pressure bump was the largest "oscillation"....

I know they use bob, I have always used blob... It is telling us that an event occurred at that time. Probably Cooper on the down stairs.. Assuming the plane was being flown on auto is irrelevant,, Rat said manual but others have pointed out that it isn't necessarily one or the other, there is an in between where the plane is flown manual with auto systems. I am not a pilot but they aren't necessarily opposites.. However, the plane was flown that 8:09 trim event occurred. I disagree 100%, It is the most important timing event we have. If it was Cooper at the bottom of the stairs extending them at 8:09, The noted oscillations start and the crew reports them.. We are getting oscillations,, at 8:09/8:10 real time not 8:12 timestamp. Your 8:12 time argument is over. We have Cooper now on the stairs at 8:09. How long would he have stood there before jumping? 60 seconds? 120 seconds? 180 seconds? 240 seconds? that only gets you to 8:13. That is lots of time.. For Cooper to jump next to the Columbia he would have had to stand there for 8-9 minutes and jumped over the lights of Vancouver/Portland. That seems very unlikely. The conflation between "oscillations" and "pressure bump" doesn't move the 8:11ish jump time... The arg that the bump had to be after 8:13 is not valid. Is it possible Cooper jumped later,, sure, anything is possible but I don't see any evidence to support it vs the 8:11 time. The 8:12 crew comms timestamp doesn't do it.

Chaucer, You keep making the same error. You and others are not taking the data into proper context. The comms timing is not as accurate as you seem to think. You are applying a degree of precision that isn't inherent in the information. The marks on the map are not as accurate as you think. Each mark can be a mile off to the side in any direction. The exact time associated with each mark can be off at 3 mi/minute. The "flight path" is not precise in the short lengths. It is a plot not really a path. The Pearson plot was an estimate by somebody trying to make sense of it. Those marks do not mean the plane was actually there at that time. The turns can appear sharper than they really were due to the plotting error. Take the "flight path" and add a mile on either side, the plane could have been anywhere in there. The line in the short term is far more erratic than the the planes actual path. People don't understand what it really is. It is not the actual path, it is an estimate based on plotting. I have been working on this,, a graphical smoothing of the plots using a 1 mile error.. it would take out the erratic nature and sharp turn and better represent the actual path.

The pressure bump was a big oscillation.

I bet that Airline food is still out there somewhere... Maybe Eric can find it.. and do a TV show on the search.

The FDR recorded something at 8:09, they didn't know at the time that the stairs didn't drop much when opened. The stairs were opened much earlier so what was it? possible trim adjustment to maintain level? why? Maybe, Cooper first goes all the way down the stairs causing the rear drag. IMO, figuring this thing out is the KEY to establishing all the times.