FLYJACK

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  1. The guy at Elsinore was the smoker of Raleighs, he didn't see the suspect smoking Raleigh's, he claims he only saw the coupons in the "suspect's" possession. He assumed the "suspect" smoked Raleigh's because he saw coupons only. He recalled this after studying the Gov report on Cooper's description, four months after the actual incident. BS
  2. Clearly, it is my opinion, we can't prove the Elsinore claims are true or false. IMO, the coupon stuff sounds like an embellishment. Here is the Raleigh coupon book for 1968, there were slight changes each year. I have seen other years. Start at beginning and use next to go through... https://www.grayflannelsuit.net/ephemera/raleigh_catalog/cigarette-catalog-index.html Hahneman made a rare stop at his home and gave his son fishing gear for Christmas 71, fishing gear is in the Raleigh coupon book and delivery is 2-4 weeks.. no way to determine if the fishing gear was from the coupon book.
  3. I think it is BS.. he notices the "suspect" has Raleigh cig coupons, not cigs and recalls that he wants to use them to get a PC,, Para Commander which isn't in the coupon redemption book. Now, it may be an embellishment and the rest of his story has some legitimacy.. but that part sounds sketchy.
  4. Hours after Hahneman's hijacking he was seen with a military "knapsack"... witness
  5. The Elsinore witness mentioned the "suspect" was there mid-late August not July and he remembers Raleigh coupons. I find this a stretch.... perhaps made up or an embellishment. He remembered the "suspect" had cigarette coupons... weird. The fact that Cooper had Raleigh cigarettes was widely publicized at the time. Stories that become more detailed over time are often a sign of deception..
  6. New FBI Cooper file #55 ,, https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper%20/d.b.-cooper-part-55-of-55/view
  7. Hilarious... Cooper researcher Ulis is running for Congress.. His Cooper research has always been rife with poor logic, factual inaccuracies and crazy self serving theories.. perfect foundation for a grifter or a politician. He managed to get an entire show produced based on his made up Cooper theory, that takes some audacity... Here, he continues with the same pattern of juvenile and irrational nonsense to launch a run for Congress. (Don't want to get into the politics or specifics here) Politics is all about perceptions, not reality.. the natural draw for Ulis.
  8. A midwestern accent is a term for the linguistic definition "General American Accent"... A slight misnomer since a general American accent is the average. It is not specific but excludes unique accents. It is average American.. It doesn't define midwest regionally. General American can vary and is not a specific accent or dialect but is the standard way of speaking without specific and unique regional influences. For Cooper, they are saying that he has no particular, discernible or specific regional accent.
  9. It was described as no "particular" accent.... Not no accent at all, or no discernible accent. and no particular accent alone does not indicate Midwest. So, Cooper's language or knowledge must be the reason the FBI said possibly Midwest. Beyond "Minneapolis,, was vey nice country" we don't have all of Cooper's interactions.. The Minneapolis comment isn't enough on its own to claim he was from the Midwest, there must be more that the FBI hasn't released.
  10. Cossey has claimed it was his chute and he modified the rip cord making it more difficult to open... for anyone that didn't know. Point is,,, many contradictions beyond the chute numbers..
  11. I always assumed Cooper "possibly from the midwest" claim came from the "no discernible accent" but it may be from his language... not the lack of accent.
  12. Cossey was contacted by AP reporter Clossy.. late Nov 25th,, FBI tried all day to 3:30 without success.
  13. Cossey claimed he made the chutes.. https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Unlikely-FBI-has-found-Cooper-s-chute-says-man-1268323.php "I would recognize the stitching on the parachute," said Cossey, who believes he got the parachute in the 1960s and still has the serial number in old log books. https://newspaperarchive.com/walla-walla-union-bulletin-nov-23-1988-p-5/ "The Raineys plan to show their find to Cossey on Friday. Cossey said the pilot chute used by Cooper was white, 18 inches long, between 8 and 12 inches in diameter and had a spring attached to it — similar to the pilot chute found by the Raineys. Cossey said he would recognize Cooper’s pilot chute immediately because it had some stitching that Cossey did himself." four cones and four grommets? FBI does not have records and Cossey did not provide them. Cossey claims, chute left on plane returned to him,,, Cossey made the backpack chutes..
  14. Odd tidbits in news articles in last FBI file.. Cooper took crew meals with him.. Cooper ransom bill list distributed globally, Interpol.. Cooper tied himself to seat during initial rear stair opening.. Rear stairs retracted to within eight inches during sled test.. (didn't hit?)
  15. There are several overlapping issues with chutes.. The card ID's by the FBI conflict, the physical descriptions conflict and the background stories conflict. Hayden bought the two chutes n May 1971, packed by Cossey May 21, 1971. Hayden claimed he doesn't know Cossey and Cossey doesn't know Hayden. Hayden must have ordered the chutes through Issaquah Skysports or something like that. Hayden claimed his chutes were "identical". The FBI and Cossey claim they were very different. The FBI claimed Hayden gave them the chute descriptions.. Hayden claimed he didn't, never spoke to the FBI and disagrees with the FBI descriptions. Cossey claimed he gave the FBI his packing records, the FBI claimed they never got them. The FBI did not record and does not have the ID numbers of the chutes taken by Cooper. Cossey claimed he altered the handle on the chute Cooper took.. That doesn't make sense to alter one of two rigs if supplying chutes to Hayden for emergency bailout. Another problem,, Cossey was told that a Pioneer chute was left in the plane,, From that Cossey ID'd the chute taken by Cooper on an assumption. Cossey sold two chutes to Hayden 6 months prior not knowing Hayden.. How does Cossey know those two chutes? Cossey is going completely on recall, he is recalling two chutes sold six months prior to a person he never met and doesn't know. Cossey could only have been told that the back rigs came from Hayden (he doesn't know). How could he have Id'd them with certainty after the hijacking? Two backpacks olive drab seen? Olive drab and tan harness? Here is a 28' Steinthal chute.. S/N 66-12982 Sept 1966... consistent numbering with the 60-9707 Jul 1960 chute
  16. Can anyone re-post these pictures? They don't seem to be on the site anymore. Probably this,
  17. Can't rule it out until we find the data on the container.. Here is a random 1960 tan Pioneer container,,, the data is stamped across the upper back and oddly it has a silk chute. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Military-Parachute-Vietnam-Era-U-S-Air-Force-Parachute-/264730930067
  18. I was referring to the date on the harness only.. Hayden's returned chute harness data is not the source for any sort of possible dating error. The card for that chute showed S/N 226 for three packing jobs so it isn't the chute either. We don't know about any numbers on the container itself. BTW, the S/N for the 1960 Pioneer back chute "noted" found left on the plane was 60-9707, the precursor digits "60" is consistent with a 1960 manufacture date. (year - serial number) Cossey claimed that he had modified the ripcord location on Cooper's rig..
  19. Hayden's returned chute.. The harness date is April 1957... consistent with Hayden chute 1 .. and not a potential error source for chute 2 data.
  20. Cossey made a Cooper replica for Tosaw... Cossey signed card. A 28' Reliance... https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/b-cooper-replica-parachute-packed-190703299 This is a replica parachute of the chute used by D.B. Cooper in his legendary skyjacking. This replica parachute was owned by Richard Tosaw, former FBI agent, and packed by Earl J. Cossey. Richard Tosaw wrote the first book on D.B. Cooper called, "D.B. Cooper, Dead or Alive?" This parachute is an estate item. I don't know if the parachute works, and have left it packed. It seems to be in good condition. That chute matches Cossey's description in the FBI files, it does not match Hayden's description.. Hayden claimed he never spoke with FBI... yet they quote him describing the chutes. Hayden claimed both chutes were identical... but the two described by the FBI and Cossey were not.. Clearly, this replica chute does not match Hayden's. 1. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 26 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 226, DATE OF MFR 9/57 (1957) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (Hayden got this one back) 2. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 24 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 60-9707, DATE OF MFR: 7/60 (1960) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (This back chute was left on the plane, ID'd by National Guard in Reno) Hayden requested his chute back, believing one was left and one taken... The FBI responded to Hayden in the plural, "these chutes ... "they".. did the FBI still have both of Hayden's chutes..
  21. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/db-cooper-tina-mucklow-untold-story-1111944/ "Recently, Mucklow has reconsidered her silence, agreeing to occasional interviews. This year, marking the 50th anniversary of the famous crime, she’s consulting on the production of a scripted film — an action thriller by Joey McFarland and Dawn Bierschwal — about the crew’s experience of the hijacking."
  22. Dennis Eugene Lysne is the redacted ticket agent and Hal V. Williams was the boarding gate clerk...
  23. Interview with Jack Almstad NORJAK passenger.. Contradicts the FBI narrative... https://patch.com/california/livermore/livermore-man-recaps-encounter-with-db-cooper "A refueling truck and bus pulled up next to the plane. A person also entered the plane. "They walked down the aisle and it looked like they were holding a pillow slip," Almstad said. "It had jagged points. Looked like a bag of bricks." The bag likely contained the $200,000 ransom D.B. Cooper demanded, Almstad said." https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/bay-area-man-on-d-b-cooper-flight-recalls-hijacking/ “Then a guy, I it was a man, came walking down the aisle with a white sack. To me, it looked like a pillow slip, and it had all these jagged points in it. And I remember the thought I had, that looks like bricks in it, or a bag of money, I thought,” Almstad said. Almstad believes he may have seen the $200,000 ransom that Cooper had demanded, along with a parachute."
  24. It wasn't a light, it was the cabin pressure gauge on the Engineer's panel. If the stairs bang up the light doesn't go out.. because the handle is not in the up detent.
  25. This is accurate.... (est) Tina said about 10 min after she went to Cockpit. Then later noticed red light "go on".. the exact time isn't precise and isn't important here. Several FBI docs and media report have a second light flash right before 8:05, that is the problem. That is the context. That second light could not have been the green stairs locked down..