mrshutter45

Is this you? No it is not, sorry for the way it was worded, rushed out of the house to Mac Donalds for a burger I was 6 years old in 68. That was the name of the story I found online, it's a lot longer than what I presented. http://my-vietnam-stories.blogspot.com/2006/03/chapter-1-drafted-may-6-to-october-6.html "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Here is a very interesting story (see attachment) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

that picture ws so distorted it's not funny, I'm not really going to get into that theory, but again that is not real proof. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

what does a guy wearing a bat suit have to do with the video showing how hard it would be to see a human being on the bottom of the plane? could it be possible that you were born in Dodge City? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Pretty small, but with a flare on it, well, you can see Mars if you look no flares on 305....remember? bottom line once again, there is no way she was able to see a man on those stairs period, this falls under common sense and not facts from what someone said, "Janet" also seems to be in the background of this game! People seen a man in the grassy knoll, a cop I believe, is this a fact or a statement? only a fact if there is proof! Marla claims she is certain about LD, is this a fact or a statement? she also has yet to show any real proof! where did Marla go? Fact noun 1. something that actually exists; reality; truth. Most story tellers use words like fact or positive, while this might be true in your mind but, leaves the door open for us because you fail to show anything physical or documented to back up the word "fact" Marla did what I like to call a hit a run, she plastered her story all over the place in hopes of getting attention in order for people to follow her and buy her book which backfired big time, similar to the flare problem you fail to see! Marla is a perfect example showing how gullible the public is, a lot of people thought a guy by the name of James Hydrick was the real deal by fooling millions of people until he was exposed as you will see here in this short segment, pay attention to the last couple seconds of the film as to why he did this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yDLRib5CQ guess where he is now? in prison for child molesting! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Night flares are very effective at lighting up aircraft in the sky. Remember the flares over Bagdad at night on TV? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=8904; http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=8903; Yes Bob, I've seen flares... And the pics YOU downloaded are 400' parachute flares...totally useless fired from a chopper...would light up very little at 10,000 feet. I don't care HOW good Janet's eyes are! what altitude would you say this aircraft is at? Blevins thought around 4000, even when he zooms in, how in the hell would you notice a man on the stairway? while you just so happen to look up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMRwweEkh0w "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Night flares are very effective at lighting up aircraft in the sky. Remember the flares over Bagdad at night on TV? 20 years later with improved equipment, yes. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, you are getting up there with your age, spending time on a Parachute form trying to convince a few people of this VALIDATED story seems ridiculous to say the least! what would it matter from this stand point going public? I would hurry if I was you, the red wooden dowels are ticking "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

on loan from the Pentagon why would a guy like this be running around from the Law in a corn field? Mac was a, War hero.....Fact Hijacker ......Fact Induction Officer......no validation from the Pentagon...no validation U.S. Marshal............no validation Still alive.................no validation here again is where the "secret" becomes a problem, we know have the Pentagon in on this? or was he just loaned out like the local E-Z rental furniture rental company not knowing what will happen to there furniture once in the hands of strangers? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Then the kid lies about how much Mac paid him for the ride. why would you make a post in 2010 claiming the same amount? Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr? You have GOT to be kidding! Stupid screw-up wanna-be. Couldn’t even walk into town. Had to buy a ride for $15! Since you made a remark several days ago about that statement being a joke for Mac, I guess it was a joke inside a joke? how much more can you add to these two lines made two years ago? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

he brought his own chutes? surely the FBI was not aware of this project either? or was the FBI informed of this mission, unlike Coopers jump? I remember now, we can't have a secret if everyone knows! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

was a joke Bob, seems to be a lot of that lately! even today's flares do not Light Up The Sky! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOcq246sQU you didn't answer why McCoys chutes were not marked, one would think this would be a must a short period after Cooper/Gossit/KC/LD/Weber etc. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I think you may be thinking of flares that have chutes on them used to locate ground forces and so on, is it possible they had those but the chutes were sewn shut on them?

The witness statement I made was about a witness that could help your case, not your actual witness. I see we are back to the point of just a farm now vs a dairy farm, similar to the can that turned into a dairy can as your story rolled on. that's ok, can, dairy can, farm, dairy farm, all the same, moving on now. How much in detail can you go into on McCoy's jump? any special chute requests made on this jump, perhaps a Z or W chute? (code for a chute not tampered with) why was a second jump required? (after Cooper) he was able to hijack the plane (per instructions) he survived (according to you) the Cooper vein was named after his jump (success for project) Coopers name by record is the one responsible for new improved security features as intended going back to 1968, the only problem would be the missing money The FBI acting on the report of a hijacking were not part of the team. Some creative agent could have taken it upon himself to "FIX" the hijacker, or plant a tracker. If everyone knew of the plan, it would not have been a secret, would it? I would be more inclined to believe that if the X chute was in fact a dummy chute, the FBI would have notified the cockpit if it was found that Cooper was going to jump with someone, since they were 100% positive he was alone, the FBI remained silent about the chute with the X on it until after the jump. If everyone knew of the plan, it would not have been a secret, would it? I don't think the secret was intended for the Officials, more like a secret to the public!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

your going against your own witness statements? "the flares lit up the sky for Janet" That's one special lady to be the only person within miles to see the sky lit up? nobody on the highways, nobody outside walking the dog, Police must of been blind or out of the area? other planes witness to seeing the sky lit up? perhaps I could ask the dairy cows? oh crap, we didn't have dairy cows at the Dairy farm did we, Dam! what happened to the post you made about McCoy being a Marshal...with one L....... Why would she report something so akin if it didn't happen? I bet a lot of people are asking the same about B Madoff! If it's too good to be true...well you know the rest. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Had to use the "SPECIAL" sewen shut chute to assure no tampering, the one belonging to 'kingpin', the rigger, who sewed it shut and put the "X" on it. Why would there be a concern of tampering on a secret Government plan? Flares were not fired or lit from 305, they came from the trailing helicopter. They did not help, they made visibility from the chopper worse, but they lit up the sky for Janet. Janet, who was in the passenger seat, looked up just as the car was backing out of the driveway and saw a light pass overhead. A platform or ladder below a plane caught her eye. "What I saw was flames and thought I saw something on the platform which could have been a person," Janet said. Immediately, the fireball arched away from the platform, split into two and then disappeared in the direction of the Columbia River she does not mention any helicopter in the area, with nightvision like hers, she would have spotted a black kite that nite Yes, I calculate that she was 2 miles off the ACTUAL flight path. Since the angle of sight she had was 45°. I got her address and Googled her, put her on the shifted flight path (15 miles West) and that is right where it is. Everything fits perfectly, with a swing around the population of Portland. She was apparently 2 miles East of the actual path on the Westerly side of Portland, South of center. You can do the same thing. Robert99 should have done the same thing, but I hear nothing of the results he got. This is 100% factual, so verifying it has got to be pretty simple. perhaps you could go ahead and do this for us, you do want the truth out.....correct? I thought you were aware of Janet for years? why did you have to Google? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I just found this on the Selective Services website. Beginning in 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson (1908–1973) was authorized by Congress to increase the number of troops in Vietnam, and by early 1968 the United States had more than 500,000 troops there. Tens of thousands of young men were drafted through the Selective Service lottery, while thousands of others avoided service through exemptions—also called deferments—granted by the several regional Selective Service draft boards around the nation based on educational commitments, membership in the clergy, medical restrictions, membership in the National Guard, and other obligations. Critics of the draft process noted an inordinate number of minorities had been selected, and questioned the randomness of the lottery. As in the past, the draft was seen as unfairly singling out those without the economic means to avoid service. As the number of U.S. soldiers killed in action rose and the war became increasingly unpopular, the draft became a focal point for antiwar protestors. In 1973 President Richard M. Nixon (1913–1994) signed legislation that ended the draft, and those joining the military thereafter did so as volunteers. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Shed some light here for me Bob, where does Janet live? my understanding is that she lived right under or close to the FBI flight path, how would she then be able to see the plane if it was 15 miles off of the course you speak of, I'm not as up to date in this area but do recall reading that she was in the flight path. I'm like many others finding it hard to believe that she could see the back of the plane so well? I live very close (about 7 miles) to Ft Lauderdale airport and the planes are at a couple thousand feet if that, not far from my home, I have looked many times during the nite and can't see anything but a shadow (Silhouette) of the plane? even when it has a light under the back tail. and if he did have flares, I could understand that some light would be on the stairwell, but then where did he get the flares if the bomb was made of red wood dowels as you explained in the past? Flares leave a smoke trail, one would think that some of this would have made it's way into the plane and then the cabin, possibly causing them to become alarmed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktyVuF0H5Ds&feature=related "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

why don't you explain once again what the money was intended for? I need to read a book to understand why you have no knowledge of your Doctors first name or your induction date? you had days to report after reciving your notice, you said this all started in March but, "The X was what he jumped with after removing the string it was sewn shut with. The boots MAY have been packed in one of the other chutes. THAT is a guess on my part. Somehow he had his boots" Two chutes where left on the plane and two chutes are missing, so Cooper used the reserve with the X to open and land with? IMO it would make more sense for the FBI to say that one of main chutes was a dummy chute and not the reserve. Why would they actually give him a chute sewn shut? do you realize how long this would take to remove the stitches on the container? "The maintenance crew gave a personal tour of the entire plane, stairway lock and all." and yet Cooper could not open the door correctly? You did say the amboy chute was not Coopers because the canopy did not have a X on it! even if the plan went quicker than expected, Cooper would have had no reason to fear anyone on the ground while the plane was parked correct? So, why didn't the FBI simply load all of his equipment onto the plane? the plane was sitting on the runway for some time? It just sounds like you are working your story into the story itself, because again this does not sound like a well thought out plan that started in March of 68, which just so happens to fall on your induction date? why were you picked from Induction? why would the Government seek people out through this process? the Government has many ways in order to seek the right person out for a job such as this? what exactly was your position in all this? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

again, this is all nonsense! why would Mac need plastic surgery in the first place? If the Government relocated him nobody would know who he is or was! This whole set up is not even close to what the Government would have done! allowing Duane to make changes, allowing Mac to "be the man" I think this will be the third time mentioning this, why would a plan that started in 1968 have so many loose ends and details, and as Bob has put it several times "rush to get the money ready" really? a 3 year plan and the Government/FAA/CIA/Mac/NW/FBI didn't have the ransom together months in advance? you might not even realize that you have two separate accounts about the money! you can remember what car you had on "draft day" where it was parked and even which way it was facing when you parked it but, you only know your Doctors last name? you were asked about your draft date and you only reply with mid March? but if someone is to ask about Mac or Weber you spout off all kinds of dates and times, streets and the weather that day but, anything around Zippy get a little fuzzy! can you see a reason for a red flag? While were at it, why would they hide his jump boots in the container marked with the X on it as you said in the past? If NW was also involved in the "operation" why wouldn't they just put the equipment on the plane? also found it interesting that you thought the canopy had a X on it "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

when did you break your back? what year was it? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

are you still trying to pass off Tommy Gunn the porn star as McCoy? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'll bet you give his full name since it's not connected too ya! (the doctor) On another note Zippy! why do you keep posting a picture of Henry Selick? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Selick sources tell me you use to plaster this picture all over FB Cooper pages until you were caught "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

not arguing anything, your Doctor's name is important! gotta go to work, so we will do more of this later! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Let's ask something of evidentuary value" that's exactly what I am doing One must check a background before one can believe another's statement! Dr "something" Thyer ??? Draft notice "mid March" no date?? this from a guy who claim to have super memory, but only when it does not involve things that can be verified! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI