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here. Now that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'll show more of the clip tomorrow, it's a nice looking clip but, very cheap, the clip in the back shifts very easily to where I understand over just a little time the clip will bend out of shape, just like Coopers did G says "good work." thanks Georger, I suspected it from the start when I saw all of the white dots on the photo. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

unfortunately, there is white specs all over the picture, almost looks like the bottom of another picture that was together for a long period, but that's guess itself. Pic #1 breaks the line of the jacket "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

and the initials db cooper are very evident! twice!! I would have to disagree, I looked at this a while back and it seems to bleed over into the coat (see photo) here is the clip I got, video is bad, but done quick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFR_Gyk8AI "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Got my Cooper tie clip in the mail today, I can believe how small this thing is! super small, pics coming Had to shell out $2.99 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This might be of some interest Georger, I have never seen this layout unless I missed it, also some aft stair specs "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob speaks of TOG often about a lot of things, he should have very good basic FACTS about rigging, and he states the FBI ground crew was not aware of this operation, so, who is Cossey? Circles, circles, round and round ya go! we now add on yet more of the story as we now have a parachute rigger being a VIP in his endless abyss the best yet was his explanation of Tina needed for the opening of the stairs, stating it was for safety reasons???? the guy was jumping out of a plane at night, ya really think he was scared to open the door? "take no unnecessary risks, this is a safety exercise" I could see Bob going into a jewelry store with a piece of costume jewelry telling them it's solid 24 kt gold, even after they tested it right in front of him telling him it's fake. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"No Crow to eat, the scenario would be a fatal one, so put the failure of a riggers name out there, I will tell him personally, this is a fatal bit of advice he was giving." "Give him my name, and have him call me to call me out here, either way." according to Bob....TOG is the "expert rigger" that he knows, but, he claims he has no knowledge of chutes? you just go in circles with him, never ending and continuing to grow everyday. BobKnoss Jumps License In sport Apr 3, 2012, 10:02 AM Post #33301 of 33991 (399 views) Shortcut Registered: Jan 17, 2011 Posts: 740 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

fair enough, so basically it was Cooper himself causing the oscillation when he exited the plane. that makes sense, didn't think of that "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

In the video of the southeast Asia jumps, if my memory is correct, the stairs did not appear to move as the jumpers came out. To me, this suggests that the stairs were "locked" in a down position. This in turn suggests that the southeast Asia 727 aircraft used stairs that had been specifically modified for those operations. That it, they were not "line" 727 passenger aircraft. well if the stairs were not in the locked position, would this video be plausible for showing there was probably no oscillation after jumping, the door didn't reach the closing point pushing air inside? and maybe, just maybe another reason he wanted the stairs down at take off, not that he was going to jump very early in the game but, if the stairs were in the locked position, they would have no idea when he jumped? so possibly he created a jump point for them himself, since the stairs were not locked, crazy yes, possible, who knows "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

this was taken from the ridiculous movie the pursuit Of DB Cooper, the start of the film shows a man jumping off the stairs, if this was a actual jump, questions remain about the stairs. IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZIwhoyIkIo "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Cooper did not mention Reno as a place he wanted to go. He only agreed to the crew's suggestion of a fuel stop in Reno. And Cooper had no knowledge of any kind on the flight path the airliner used between V-23 and across the mountains to Reno." agreed, I was simply stating Reno as the reference, would have said the same if they landed in Phoenix, I'm sure he would known they were landing soon by a drop in altitude, the airport was covered, but I'm sure 3 or 4 miles out it was not, again just a theory, I have a video uploading I would like you to look at in the next few minutes. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Whether two cords or three cords were cut remains a debate. Tina Mucklow asked the hijacker during the flight to cut some of the chute cord for her to possibly use as a safety line when the aft stairs were lowered, so as to not be sucked out of the plane [2]. Mucklow stated that Cooper informed her that she didn't need a cord. Was an additional cord cut from the chute at the time for Mucklow, but never used? I have a WILD theory that I have been trying out, is it possible that he used the extra cord to pull the door up tricking the crew into thinking he left the plane? any other bumps, oscillations would have gone unnoticed allowing him to exit possibly a few miles from Reno? I'm sure they hit more turbulence along the path to Reno and the stairs should of acted similar to you trunk being open on your car while moving and hitting bumps, it would go up and down causing many "oscillations" through out the flight? after all, we are only going by the FBI's most probable jump area, meaning, not set in stone! I realize the terrain problems of finding any evidence plus the eruption covering evidence, but someone said we need to start thinking outside the box, this is about as far outside the box you can go It's a very long shot (this theory) but what is not wild and crazy about this crime? this theory would show knowledge of the plane, flight behavior in general, knowledge that Pilots would have or could have given to this individual and, give a much better location for exit? remember the times were different back then, and Cooper was probably certain that the crew would not leave the cockpit, allowing him all the time in the world back there. most bank robbers tell them to wait 5 minutes before doing anything after they leave, most if not all abide to these commands! To stretch it even further, this could be a possible reason the money is on Tena Bar that seems to confuse everyone, he simply went back and put the money there in order to keep the area contained for the "probable jump area" this is yet another clue that nobody can agree on how the money got there. we have people believing he went into the river, we have people thinking he jumped in the area where the money was found, it's a win win for Cooper in order to cover his escape. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Five cords on the pink parachute had cut lines: Line #7 had 186 ¾ inches of cord removed Line #11 had 169 ¾ inches of cord removed Line #12 had 169 inches of cord removed Line #15 had 213 inches of cord removed Line #22 had 217 ¼ inches of cord removed The length of an uncut cord (including the double-sewn cord used to tie into the cross-connector, the bundle of cords located between the butterfly snap-hook rings in the reserve container) is 218 inches (or 18.2 feet). Exactly how much suspension line is currently missing from the pink parachute? 955 ¾ inches (or 79.6 feet). Exactly how much suspension line did D.B. Cooper use to wrap the bundle of money to his waist? If the investigative search of the plane was conducted a mere 24 minutes after the plane touched down in Reno, NV and the number of cut cords recorded by the search team at that time was two, it suggests that Cooper removed two shroud lines (suspension lines) from the pink parachute. Logically, it seems as though the hijacker would grab two cords at the same time and make only one cut, rather than choosing lines individually and cutting them separately. Lines #11 and #12 seem the most plausible two, being a mere ¼ inch difference in length and located next to each other on the canopy. If D.B. Cooper took these two lines, he took a total of 338 ¾ inches (28.2 feet) of cord with him. If he doubled-up the cords for extra security during the jump, he used 169 ¾ inches (or 14.1 feet) of cord. Two cords vs. Three cords Whether two cords or three cords were cut remains a debate. Tina Mucklow asked the hijacker during the flight to cut some of the chute cord for her to possibly use as a safety line when the aft stairs were lowered, so as to not be sucked out of the plane [2]. Mucklow stated that Cooper informed her that she didn't need a cord. Was an additional cord cut from the chute at the time for Mucklow, but never used? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

has anyone discussed the amount of rope taken from the reserve chute? I know it was 79.6 feet, but has anyone really wondered or tried to figure out where it all went, I know a handle was believed to be made and he probably tied it to his chest and had a lead for ground detection, but 80 feet? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

thought and believe are two different words. you slipped up period, you said "I thought it was just one" meaning you! you didn't say you disagreed with McCoy, stop using the quick damage control button! the correct response would have been, I'll inform McCoy of his mistake! no more twisters! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This could mean a lot of different things, but what it tells me is that the caller wasn't a psycho or a garden-variety nut. Maybe he was concerned about actually hurting someone by attempting to open the door. You could extrapolate that to mean he wanted the money...but not necessarily to kill people or injure them in order to get it. According to Ralph Himmelsbach, he thinks the bomb was a fake, too. The individual could also have had very little Pressurized Air frame Experience, and wanted to make sure no one would be "sucked out". Kind of makes any "trained" and airline 'experienced" suspects, well suspect. Matt when was the call made? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"According to McCoy, they talked him into trading a sandwich for the gun as he put on his parachute" "I thought it was just one" ("I", being the word that sticks out) can we finally come to terms that McCoy is in your head? you originally said McCoy told you. "Can't believe anything written about hyjackers nowadays" this would include yourself, you do realize this, correct? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"There was another hijacker just before Cooper who used a pistol. Two weeks before Cooper’s hijacking, a passenger named Paul Cini brandished a handgun aboard an Air Canada flight over Montana. According to McCoy, they talked him into trading a sandwich for the gun as he put on his parachute. This could be your caller. He was NOT associated with Norjak, and he was not too bright." let's read the real version Two weeks before Cooper’s hijacking, a passenger named Paul Cini brandished a handgun aboard an Air Canada flight over Montana. He extorted money and a parachute, just like Cooper, but he was rushed and subdued by the jet’s crew when he put down the gun to don the parachute. The FBI’s Himmelsbach has said he believes Cooper borrowed his basic plan from Cini and the detail of a bomb in his briefcase from the plot of “Airport,” the disaster flick released six months before the Cooper hijacking. you are mixing two different hijackings, A quick-thinking stewardess slipped three Valiums into Tripp's drink, and the plane never left the ground. During the ten hour standoff, Tripp lowered his demands, and released all 52 of the passengers, settling for three cheeseburgers and a demand to be driven from the airport in a rental car by the two pilots left with him. (July 11, 1980) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Speaking of cartoons Bob & Mac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdva8bCgc1Q "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

your sickness seems to be revolving around television, you show pics of Stallone, porn stars and Movie Producers? Bob, nobody was forced to register at 15! I don't have a "to-do sheet" this is all very simple and does not take up my life like it has yours! since not one person thinks you are telling the truth....why are you here? Bob, all of us have trouble finding any truth from you, let alone some Minnesota Statue that is not there! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you seem to like all your idea's! the problem is they mean nothing! you fell completely off the STABLE chart. just by the fact of nobody believing your story should tell you a lot, but you keep posting on like we believe? sorry you can certify all you want, doesn't change the fact that you are ill. I noticed you glossed over the Selective Service Statue I posted, oops, I forgot, that's a known fact "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

sorry Bobby, you left out a lot of that statue! SELECTIVE SERVICE Young men who are at least 15 years of age and no older than 26 years of age are required to register incompliance with the federal Military Selective Service Act, 50 App. USC 453. An individual must be providedan opportunity to fulfill those registration requirements in conjunction with an application for an instructionpermit, basic driver license, CDL or Montana ID card. If under 18 years of age, but at least 15 years of age, anindividual must be provided an opportunity to be registered by the selective service system upon turning 18years of age. An individual will have the opportunity to register when filling out an application at a Montanadriver licensing exam station Service Act, 50 App. USC 453 (a) An individual— (1) who was born after December 31, 1959, and is or was required to register under section 3 of the Military Selective Service Act (50 App. U.S.C. 453); and (2) who is not so registered or knowingly and willfully did not so register before the requirement terminated or became inapplicable to the individual, shall be ineligible for appointment to a position in an Executive agency I can have this certified by my lawyers with first names if needed "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If Bob's story gets any bigger, they will have to expand the universe just to fit it in! I see he has a new gig, "self certify" is that pump one or two sir "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't think anyone can really be discounted from being Cooper, his Description is all over the board. The "wanted poster" says; mid 40's and yet the FBI claimed L.D. Cooper to be the "most promising" he was 40? but I found out he was younger than that. with so many different Descriptions of Cooper how can anything really be dismissed? the age range is once again all over the board with the many suspects from 29 years old, all the way up into the 50's does this make KC DB Cooper....hardly, but I agree on some points that Robert brings up, just as other suspects have valid points as well. so the story remains.....who is DB Cooper? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI