mrshutter45

Bob, before you cast doubt upon others, light still needs to be seen on your story! you keep saying this is a "Kangaroo Court" and use the term "Badgering" I would mark you as a "Hostile Witness" by refusing to answer direct questions! It's cold in here, anyone feel a DRAFT! validate, validate, validate! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you have entered the ........ Drop .... Zone. "plop" Noooooo kidding plop, plop, fiz, fiz....well, you know the rest

"I'm trying to help you and you are doing everything possible to reject any help that will expose the truth." that is a False statement Bob! how are you trying to help me? by not disclosing your Draft status? I'll say it one more time Bob, your story starts from the day you received your Draft notice! period, that is about as fair as fair can be buddy! how many pages and day's have we spent on two simple questions? #1 when did you receive your Draft notice in the mail #2 when did you go to Induction, your response was I drove a 2 door Ford and parked it facing West, and yet with all of that knowledge about how and what you did getting there, the date escapes into the night like Cooper! your anger in the last post about me tells me a lot, you are very uncomfortable with my style of questioning! when I get close to finding something, you lash out! "Kind of a poor performance" this is not what people are telling me offline (PM's) so once again, say what ever you wish about me, BUT, answer the simple questions without hate, anger or Dodging! The Truth (which you always claim) starts at the beginning of every story Bob, This is not Hollywood, where they take a true story and only put about 3% of truth in there version in order to make the movie story line better! as of this date, how many days are we into trying to get your classification status? you said you are "trying to help me" when exactly will this help part start? I'm the one sending for your classification! Is this how you are helping me? I don't think anyone wouldn't want to find out this all happened as you say it did but, you are not cooperating in any way on helping your side of this! failure to disclose anything on your side, looks very bad my friend! I will leave you with this....I don't want to "ask Mac" I'm asking you! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The question to ponder is this; expose or produce McCoy, if not, it's only a story be honest about your Draft, if not, the story is not valid you have a good talk, but the problem is the fact that you can't produce one single piece of evidence with yourself or any others you mention. you keep saying "ask Mac" how is that possible? you make claims of talking to the FBI as if we can call them up for varification. you give names of Commanders that can't be contacted or dead (or not the right one) you show "oil pipelines" that are not there and pictures of things not related to the United States! you become fuzzy about anything tied to your name! your story line does not make any sense, something the Government would not do! 68-71? The answer lies in your Drafting...anyway you cook it! I'm hoping something with your classification will tell part of the story, your job would be to pay the $60 for your full records that can be sent and returned within 10 days on 95% of the Selective Service cases! or you can give me a signed statement allowing the records to be sent to me! it's that simple in black and white on the Selective Service website! (see attachment) you want to complain that this has no value, that's your opinion, not the ones on this thread! I am calling you once again to the table! if you don't agree to this, it will show that you are not being truthful on anything you say! the fat lady is singing this story might go far on other sites with a younger crowd on the edge of there seats waiting for your next post, not here, you keep typing Mac mac mac...my turn validate, validate, validate! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Today is Sunday. Government offices are closed today. They will open again tomorrow and trudge through another 8 hours and go home. When they get us the paperwork we should have something to discuss. The attorney did not request copies to my knowledge. I never saw any paperwork of any kind from an attorney. No bill either. $20,000 on the cuff. you need to fire your Attorneys!!! anytime I used a Lawyer, the paperwork was all ready and there for my viewing!! that makes no sense what so ever, having paid for Attorneys to check your background and not show you anything they have done. I'm shocked at your response for some dumb reason, it's funny how you avoid anything connected to your background, millions of people are very aware of there classification status during and after drafting periods! your memory is fading again, but not like remembering the color of the blinds on a building that you saw before you were hypnotized! see a pattern anywhere? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

did you figure out your classification yet? one would tend to believe that if he had "Attorneys" on his case, he would already have this information? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, you need to refrain from accusations you mention above, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case! we don't need to read sexual content on this thread! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The website is here Jo http://www.firelookout.com/wasw.html you can click on them for info, if you need any help just ask. you can click on the tower in question and most give a picture along with dates, tell me the ones and I can help you

Ok Bob, get some rest and research which one you think you have (classification wise) the one everyone else knows! nite nite agent man! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you seem to be having some technical difficulty, perhaps this will help 2a 3a, I see we are back on Knoss issues and memory failure! maybe even WTF! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

OK, Bob; 1-A-O - Conscientious Objector - conscientiously opposed to training and military service requiring the use of arms - fulfills his service obligation in a noncombatant position within the military. Note: A registrant making a claim for Conscientious Objection is required to appear before his local board to explain his beliefs. The local board will decide whether to grant or deny a CO classification based on the evidence a registrant has presented. A man may appeal a Local Board's decision to a Selective Service District Appeal Board. If the Appeal Board also denies his claim, but the vote is not unanimous, he may further appeal the decision to the National Appeal Board. when did you go in front of the board? I like the twist....1....A-O "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

are you going to stand by your statement of I-A-O? FOR THE RECORD! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I have NO interest AT ALL in national news exposure, only the truth" Of course you wouldn't, you would be questioned far more better than anyone on here plus, they would find lots of goodies that I'm sure you would burst a milk can over! again, you are going against logic, that would be your best move, going public on this, rather than them finding out what you are disclosing on here. A truthful move indeed! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Yada, yada, yada!! In 1968 the facts were different than 1976, weren't they?? We know all that. I'm telling you what happened during the planning, not a lifetime later. That has no bearing on the discussion in 1968, but it affects the paranoya today. That, plus Duane handing off the note too early, but they didn't add kidnapping, YET. the hijacking didn't occur until 71, talk about "yada, yada? Bob, there are way to many problems with a plan spanning from 68 to 71, lets get real here! don't you think it's time to get National News from this? instead of pudding around on a thread? TOG is scared of his 20 year gag order? it's been 44 years now, maybe they will cut your Leavenworth time in half, since you went double in your time frame coming forward they didn't add kidnapping yet? this was a Government operation, why would they add anything? charge a dead guy with kidnapping while the other dead guy remains alive? Mac "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

You forgot IV-F. Yes, and while we are at it, maybe IV-C might also fit him "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Wanted on charges of hijacking a jet to Havana, a former black revolutionary was arrested in Albany yesterday after almost two decades as a fugitive, Federal authorities announced. Agents from the F.B.I., who have been looking sporadically for the suspect, 39-year-old Linda Joyce Grinage, since the hijacking in 1969, arrested her without incident in the home she shared with her husband, Mylo Eytina. ''She was quite surprised,'' said a spokesman for the F.B.I.'s Albany office, Michael W. O'Brien. The case had never been closed, but F.B.I. agents in New York City, where the investigation was based, said they had lost track of Ms. Grinage - known as Linda Joyce Austin at the time of the hijacking - years ago. ''If we had known where she was we would have effected the arrest earlier,'' said a spokesman for the bureau's New York office, Joseph A. Valiquette. F.B.I. By SARAH LYALL Published: July 26, 1988 In 1976 discussion arose over impending expiration of the statute of limitations on the hijacking. Most published legal analysis agreed that it would make little difference, as interpretation of the statute varies considerably from case to case and court to court, and a prosecutor could argue that Cooper had forfeited immunity on any of several valid technical grounds.[67] The question was rendered moot in November when a Portland grand jury returned an indictment against "John Doe, aka Dan Cooper" for air piracy and violation of the Hobbs Act.[68] In effect the indictment formally initiated prosecution of the hijacker that can be continued, should he be apprehended, at any time in the future. what were you saying about the Statue Of Limitations on Hijacking? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

What does Gray have to do with this cover up? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

when I get your classification, what will I see? I-A-O I-O I-W IV-W or the really bad one I-H "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

since there were no hijackings from 61 until Feb, 1968, how was it that you explained that planes were getting hijacked on a regular basis? you were given a 4 year suspended sentence right off the bat, but then claim you though you would go to prison for what you witnessed? why didn't you tell the Leavenworth story? you have two different claims! what did you witness? thought you were there to keep records for McCoy, the whole purpose of being there? that's what you agreed too, and then you say, "I thought I would go to prison for what I witnessed"? You never witnessed anything before you were given the suspended sentence! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Speaking of variables and accuracy! (see attachment) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, again it seems your memory works amazingly well with everything except things about Bob, the details you give about the building and then turn around and say things such as "it was before I was hypnotized" when asked about Bob dates? you were only there once and were able to describe it very well, you would of not noticed much while leaving? after the hypnotizing. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

why was there a need to hypnotize you if McCoy was helping you? how many times did you go to this building? Don't forget the questions above the post about your hearing!!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

where was your court hearing held? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, first of all Bobby, your can, milk can, standard milk can is not waterproof, so, over the 8 years it was in the ground water levels would have changed over time leaving sediments in the container in question! the money would be in a Disintegrated condition, far worse than the condition found! (IMHO) there were many more floods before 79! just think about how that money would look! as in "might be something there" is far different from "wiped clean" expunged (correct spelling) or the other words you used for not there! I am sending for your classification just to make sure! you keep telling people to walk the walk, well I'm doing just that ! your background starting from your Draft is where this story begins correct? you want to prove all of this, well this is and will be a chance to prove your story! we can't start your story after you were drafted, wouldn't be flare flare was intentional did Mac find the Milk can in good shape or did Duane? "Mac described it as just a regular milk can that was in really good shape, which was unexpected" why would that be unexpected in 1971? your story follows with improvements when things are discovered? let the record show that Bob has now claimed the can to be in "really good shape" improving the theory

very good, now as caretakeral you first said "a can" then you changed it to a milk can, and now you wish to change it once again to a "standard milk can" flood of 1979? bob, now you are pin pointing scientific answers to exactly how the money was released? only 3 bundles were found that stayed together? a milk can in the ground for 8 years would not "pop up" like you say it would, again not plausible. you said Duane couldn't find the money and yet you know exactly how, where and why it showed up on Tena Bar, AMAZING! that is as crazy as you telling people your records were "wiped clean" (see photo) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI