mrshutter45

From "the chute is missing from the plane" you assume "he took the chute" ? Maybe he ate it! ? Maybe he tossed it out the door? Maybe maybe maybe maybe . . . True, then I guess we can assume he fell out of the plane rather than jumping while we are at it. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I can't get by the fact he took a dummy chute? did he first try the NB-8 and find no D rings and then put the 6 on? seems a paratrooper would catch that just as a civilian jumper would? is there any statements (proof) telling what size canopy was actually in the 8? Is it in stone that it was a 26' "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here are some specs on the NB-8 http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-10-1670-213-10.pdf http://www.butlerparachutes.com/PDF/PIApresen.pdf "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

How do we know that for sure? He did mention Tacoma. Georger, did Cooper mention Tacoma and McCord while landing in Seattle? if so how did he see it on the right side of the plane? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I hope he makes a full recovery and looking forward to hearing from him. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

http://huntfordbcooper.com/pioneer-v-s-nb6 This one maybe? From the article you linked it sounds like there was probably a 26' Navy conical, possibly sleeved...in the Pioneer rig. It would not have self destructed upon opening and in fact would have been a smoother/softer deployment at any speed. I remember Gray's article, but that's not the one, I'll find it

ok, well here is a link on canopy info, will find more that I have found, but gotta go to work

The NB-6 could handle the high speed opening while the Pioneer would have probably failed. where does the reserve attach to the pioneer? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

agreed, I guess the smart thing would have been to change all three and not just one if it stuck out that bad. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Maybe he felt trapped by letting someone sit on the isle or Tina sat on the opposite side talking to him? and for some reason the cloth on the seat had been changed because the other two are much darker, perhaps the FBI took that piece of cloth? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The easiest way to do it is just to highlight the entire url then click on the url button. Either way works. This way folks can see where the link is going to without having to hover over it. Smokin, what url button? Where? See the 8 'buttons' below the box your text appears in while you type your next post...the far right button is the url clickifier. As stated, the easiest way is to highlight the http addy line and click the url button. I click the url button,paste the address and click url button again, works everytime. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Thanks for the kind words Bruce, I don't really think I'm a "whiz-kid researcher" I just try to validate things I am reading in this mess of a crime! I guess that is what makes it so interesting at one point and then frustrating the next

here is a 3D model of a 727-100 Source http://forums.luxology.com/discussion/topic.aspx?id=48473&page=2 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

He does say he was one row behind Cooper? something is going on with his statement! http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/bay-area-man-on-d-b-cooper-flight-recalls-hijacking/ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I would say that the photo was taken not long after the hijacking, notice the difference in the color of the cloth on the seat by the isle? looks like a new one. was Cooper sitting in that seat? it would make sense for him not to sit where a window is due to sniper fire. also the plane is listed as a 727-51 not 727-100 Sluggo does mention 727-51 (see photo) the last pic of the plane (see photo) can Florence be contacted for seat validation? http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N467US "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Hmmm, Jerry's comment said Jack was sitting across from Cooper, the video interview Jack says he was one row behind him on the right side? I thought the "painter" was sitting across from Cooper able to get a good look at him? It was light rain.....it was heavy rain. winds from the east...winds from the west? Cooper is 35...no 45....Cooper is in his 50's? 36 passengers? nope 37? Wikipedia Cooper was in seat 18-c Yahoo news The last row, 18, starboard side. The hijacker sat here, in seat 18-E. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If you listen to his interview he claims he was sitting behind Cooper on the right??? (Jack Almstad) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I just watched the first part of "in search of" and they said he was the 36th passenger to board. (quick check) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Georger, I have never spoken to Jerry, and once again I was only relaying a message given to me, I have yet to look into this "clue" for any validation and you seem to want to "shoot the messenger" or "have a go" at what I posted. I heard alot about this site, but, from what I have seen it's not as impressive as I hoped it would be, Is there a reason why you felt the need to go on and on about one post? I do understand the problems with over posting, but I feel that this was justified, I don't like to get into the "politics" of blogs where people only attack each other post after post, but again felt compelled to explain my reasons. the only thing I know from this point is that it is not Simmons they are talking about. I can understand your frustration to a point, but not everyone is as knowledgeable as the next when it comes to this case or being a Meteorologist or a Pilot and so on. when I first came to this site I was hoping to learn more as time went on, but I only see page after page of constant bickering that leads no where! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Oh gorsh! Is Simmons still alive! ? How many more cheap thrills can we stand? Mrs Hutter finds missing link! Georger, I was told parts were left out in previous comments about what I copy/pasted at the request of someone else! I had only been home several minutes before posting what I wrote! I get tired of back reading because all I see is several people constantly arguing with Knoss! which seems to be the bigest "repeat" on this thread! it's not Mrs Hutter it's Mr Shutter (long story) Dave "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Here is a update to the story, this was posted on my Facebook page with permission from Vicki. Just a quick note to let everyone know what transpired in the last two weeks. After some internet searching I found a passenger on the plane that spoke with Cooper while waiting for the restroom. There was a short conversation between them and Cooper looked up and smiled. I searched and found and address and a phone number of the witness and passed it on to Jerald Thomas Sr. Jerry contacted the witness and there was an agreement to view the pictures of Melvin. I sent the information to the witness by e-mail. After a week of studying the Unsolved Mysteries video and comparing photos. it was determined by this witness, that Melvin was NOT involved. Jerry sent other pictures of the other suspects (Christiansen, Weber, L.D. Cooper, Sheridan Peterson, Barb Dayton, et al. ) The witness said NONE of the suspects that were in the news, or brought up as a suspect since, matched their recollection from that evening. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, that all sounds good....but, you have a few words that I see a problem with....."could of" & "probably" those two words are used alot in the Cooper story! not that I disagree 100%, but not good enough I did think about the chute out the back door theory, personally I would have sent it right back to them if I survived? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Ha Ha! EVIDENCE?? KC has less proof than Maria! Farf likes her. We thank you for your opinion, however. You may be on to something important. I'm sure the FBI can't wait to hear your thoughts, too. Why don't you contact your local authorities and explain your evidence to them. They are there to help you with such matters. The same question can be for you as well? might give you a chance to catch up with the old class of 71 conspirators? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I strongly disagree with planning this for ten years, he didn't know how to open the aft door, he didn't notice the reserve chute was a demonstration chute? I kind of think after 10 years of planning he would know the 727 from front to back and would have more experience with chutes! just to mention a few problems he had. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

OK. If my object was to fly an airplane on a special path, but make the record read differently, how could I do it? The method would have to be hidden in plain (plane (;#)) sight. Could I claim a really non-existent West to East wind that I had to compensate for by faking a crab and actually flying West?Sure, but it would not hold up to Pi-Reps. Then, with the wind supposedly blowing me back East, my fake flight record would show me 15 miles East of my now covert real flight path over the pipeline where I want to be. If you could get ALL the Radars that cover that area and all the receivers to read "improperly" (Winds blow differently at different altitudes as I understand it, like the jet stream which pilots often use to their advantage. Not a wind expert.) When they search for the jumper they will be looking in the wrong place and he can escape easily. Hence, the big to-do thing to silence Janet. Plug the leak!! How's that? Don't want to lose this point, as it is extremely critical to how things were done, and it exposes involvement by others. (By definition that makes a conspiracy) That alarm term alone makes the story a, "Don't Touch This One, Story!" Now Mr. Blevins will probably scream idiot at me again, as we are getting down to basic building blocks of the real story. You'd think he would grab hold of this enlightening information and tie it to KC somehow. He knows I'm for real and he's supposed to to silence me, rather than help seek out information. THAT is a FACT and he proves it himself, day after day. Nothing personal. I understand. It's business. Will he scream idiot? no, he hasn't yet I believe. But will he ask for actual proof instead of your hearsay? Yes, we all do. It is nice to see progress, since your personal involvement has been debunked and you have let that go. So now we can get some proof from you on your "facts". And FB has a link to this thread now so they can see who is actually harassing who. Matt TLSWASU,DFFI. If this was a Government cover up, why not just catch him the next day and be done with it? why leave all of these problems of who he was? seems to me that the Government would of had a simple plan put into place, bad guy takes over plane, bad guy gets caught the next day? end of story! airline safety is no longer a problem? (1971) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI