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back the train up Ron..... I didnt say anything about pulling at 500' I said I would chase them to around 1000'.......+ or - a bit..... You say your reserve will open in 400 feet right? OK so you have to pull it at around 500 to start it correct You really think you can find them, get to them, catch them, pull them out, and pull yourself out in 9 seconds? How bout a Static line/ IAD instructor story..... I had a larger than normal student in a full plane, Cessna 206 with the cargo door. he was around 250 lbs, doing his first hopnpop Jumping a converted tandem rig......and I tried to get the dzo to put the aircraft up with only 5 jumpers onboard..... (he was freaking big), but with 6 of us up we went up.... he couldnt get situated in the door comfortably and when he left he struck the door with the container.......... I cant explain the feeling I got at that moment, I knew without a shadow of a doubt that he wasnt gonna pull, he went fetal big time....so out the door I went, he rolled over at 3000' and pulled, (we left at 4500") I was next to him (5' away head down) and closing when he rolled over, I stopped approaching and just watched him deploy very nicely....very stable..... but I WAS within striking distance.... he had only a few more seconds to save his own life before I did it for him......(not the most lucid moment of my jumping career) He did have a AAD ...... but it didnt even dawn upon me .....screwed the pooch I did..... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I don't have any ratings *** none needed, just good skills and a good heart I'd try my hardest*** I want friends like you...... win or lose, you try Amen its all any of us could do. Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I just noticed...... you didnt answer the question...: how low would you go? Roy Edit to add.....I just saw the blood in the goggles quote........ They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I have attended the AFF Pre course, the only thing that has prevented me from getting my rating is $$$$$$$$$ 600$ for the course, plus camera, slots, and a week off work.......adds up very fast.... easily a 2-3K course....... Like I said, I think I can catch an unconcious person........ I hope to never be in a situation where I have to try. but you call it foolish..... how ?? you trust your reserve every jump you make.....whether you use it or not......your main is for fun, it gets serious when you have to use your reserve....... personally I think my friends are worth going straight to silver.... I have enjoyed reading your posts Ron, and for the most part have agreed with you, but on this one, we agree to disagree... Roy >>edited to add......I dont think any of my friends are going to let me do warp 9 into them just to prove I can do it....... They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

The addage "a hard deck is a hard deck is a hard deck" is there*** I hear ya, I figure I can catch and pin an unconcious person in about 6-10 seconds, but would be willing to keep trying deep in the beeps. but am not willing to die to do it... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Your going to have to be good to be able to close, pin, locate (probably tumbling, probably back to earth attitude) friend's silver, *** lol......at that time, anything that isnt his/her cutaway handle, or penis is gonna get pulled......anything goes for us at that time/that low..........its a shot....not a great one, but its still a chance... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

That is disturbing...... I was at a boogie in Star Idaho a couple of years ago, and one of the jumpers was walking around without his shirt on, and he had BOOBS...just like that guys...... what the hell causes that???? steroids??......this guy wasn't big enough to be doing roids....... he was at least a "B" cup.... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Below 2000 ft I have no friends. *** I can understand where your coming from, the self comes before all others......... but you would truly throw a good friend away after only 13 seconds of pursuit?? even though you could "somewhat safely" open later??? It would probably take around 2-3 seconds to realize that they were "out"......so 10 seconds to chase, catch, and pull...... brrrrrrr cold man, cold...... but its a risk assesment situation........reward vs/risk thank you for your input

Boone's drinking RWers can enjoy! *** at the very least you could insult us freeflying swoopers...ya know.... how come th RWers get all the attention........"WAAAAAA"...... Roy Ps: who won the swooping contest at freedom jam? They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Dumb shit, but we're talking about a real emergency. At least I could hold my head up high at their funeral if I failed. *** I figure most will flame this post, its nice to not be the only one who would do something this ....."not smart.." .... Thank you, I was feeling a bit....weirded out..... Roy >donning a 2nd set of nomex..

What is the drum unit?? Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Board up the house and run.*** Run like the wind..... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

ok, this is a thought that came to me from another thread where the instructor went waaay low after a student (girlfriend) and I said " he screwd the pooch"....... Because she had an AAD....... but ... I was wondering...... Keep in mind, This is a person you care about/respect...etc....all that mushy stuff say you and your best friend were making a 2 way from 3500' and upon exit he/she struck their head on the horizontal stabilizer rendering them unconcious, you know they dont have an AAD...... they are out for the count.....tumbling away from you.... They have 25 seconds of life left.......... Cant pull....gonna die.... Would you sit back and hope they came to?? or..... How far into the basement would YOU go to save them??...... would you even go there??? I thought about just posting this question and not giving my answer because I figure I will need a nomex suit.... but screw it.....here goes... I know which of my friends dont have a AAD..... and In this circumstance, knowing they do not have an AAD I wouldnt be adverse to chasing them to around 1000' I figure I would be able to tell if they were "coming around" and reaching for a handle and be able to avoid them..... My reserve takes around 400' at most to open, (I have used it enough to have a statistical base to measure it) I figure I would have at max 16-18seconds to get them pulled and open my reserve.... I can count on one hand and have a couple of extra fingers....the friends I have that I would go to the ends of the earth for - 3 of them skydive...... I dont figure I could live with the guilt of not giving them every second I could trying to save them..... I aint gonna go in with them, but I would give them every micro-second I could. I would apologise about the broken ribs later....cause my dock is going to be extremely hard/fast and brutal... and no guarantees of whether they get the main or the reserve....It would be the one I could pull the fastest. Is there a chance there would be 2 fatalities.....Yes, Would I ask them to pay for my reserve repack...yes, would I expect a enormous amount of beer......YES... Please dont start the AAD debate again, that shoulda, woulda, coulda stuff........ this is a simple question. How far would you go? Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I hope to get in a jump before the year ends*** DO IT !!! addictions are not easy to kick, treat yourself, and get a physical rush that is all natural and..... congratulations....and......welcome back

There are two types of motorcyclists. Those who have crashed and those who have YET to crash*** actually....there are three....those who will, those who have, and those chosen few who have and will again I was in a head on collision on my Ducati with a sports car (her fault) not that it matters, closing speeds were around 65 mph, She just suddenly swerved into my lane I had enough time to hit both brakes and realize that it wasnt gonna work (she wasnt slowing down) and jump straight up, my feet hit the windshield and sent me cartwheeling.....I landed on my head....shattered the helmet, (a 200$ AGV....knocked me out, I spent the day in the hospital, still have spine problems, But if I hadnt been wearing that helmet I have no doubt that I would now be dead. But I think helmet usage should be a personal choice Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I have a PC-5 and it is mounted on a 3/16" aluminum 'L' bracket. It is fastened to the helmet with three 1/4" bolts, I reinforced the inside of the helmet (bonehead) with fibrglass and resin. The camera is mounted to the L bracket with 2" of camera lock and the tripod screw. One of these days I will fab up a box for more protection.......... But I am pretty lazy, been saying that for at least a year now. Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

I always wear a full face and leathers, but it is by my choice to do so. I dont think anyone should have been able to mandate helmet / seatbelt laws..... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

maybe one day i'll find someone that can keep up. *** Where do I send in my application? Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Its noble and heroic to pursue a student into the basement I disagree even with this.*** I was saying that with a trace of sarcasm,,,,,,,I heard it in my brain but it didnt translate well I see. Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Personnally I prefer Vicodan and beer Oh....wait.....you said "and still function...."...... hmmm, just dont wash the Vicodan down with a beer and you shouldnt get too fuzzy but they effect everyone different I have heard. Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Cypress Tree (the Faithfulness) -- strong, muscular, adaptable, takes what life has to give but doesn't necessarily like it, strives to be content, optimistic, wants to be financially independent, wants love and affection, hates loneliness, passionate lover which cannot be satisfied, faithful, quick-tempered at times, can be unruly and careless, loves to gain knowledge, needs to be needed. *** More accurate than I would normally care to admit... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

Get well soon

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heheh, have your friend get some beer too, he learned a good lesson with respect to gear checks....

Isn't a 15 second delay supposed to be a solo? He screwed the pooch and broke the hard deck, Its noble and heroic to pursue a student into the basement, but can be quite fatal..... to both the student and the instructor if he was out of postion (over top) when the AAD fired.... Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.