Robert99

Never said I was. You knew Kurt Vonnegut? I'll admit that's pretty cool. Slaughterhouse Five, one of my fave books. Uh...when someone quotes someone else...doesn't mean he or she actually believes they are the person quoted... On a side note, it's generally considered desperate and cheap-sounding to drop names in order to prove how cool or smart you are. Just sayin'.

Blevins, Are you having a "Come to Jesus" moment? If not, you could certainly use one. First, you are probably the chief name dropper on this thread, or maybe just tied with Jo Weber. But the last sentence quoted above applies to both you and Jo. "Uh...when someone quotes someone else...doesn't mean he or she actually believes they are the person quoted..." That seems to be a bit of "fuzzy" logic, but are you now saying the NPR fellows you have been gushing about lately may not actually have been with NPR? Are you with AB books? Does AB books actually exist? Your "logic" seems to have come straight out of a can of worms. Robert99

Every time I see a post of yours on our forum I am in total disbelief that you have written a book. The concept seems incongruous. Instead of making lists of people who can actually write a cogent sentence why don't you buy yourself a dictionary and s copy of "Elements of Style" by Strunk and White as a Christmas present to yourself...and to us? An excellent suggestion!

Blevins, First you (and Jo) claim the FBI is screwing up in the Cooper case. Now you are claiming the King County Sheriff's office is screwing up in the Cossey case. Next, I presume you will claim that the Auburn meter maids are screwing up in some matter. You (and Jo) seem to have all the answers. Do you know what the questions are? Robert99

More baloney. If you believe the flight path was WEST of Portland...then PROVE it. The map the FBI still keeps on their website says otherwise. In other words, put up or forever hold your peace. Check-in Time at the Reality Hotel: The Citizen Sleuths concluded that the flight path forwarded by the FBI was correct. There is also the map, which says Flight 305 did NOT pass over Tena Bar. Just because you say it did, doesn't make it so. And by the way, claiming you 'want to know the truth' (as you quoted me as saying) is NOT a bad thing. Blevins, In you haste to be the "first responder" to posts by others, you apparently only glance at those posts before going into your KC defense mode. And that is certainly the case here. Starting with your last sentence above, your reply suggests that I don't want to know the "truth" and that I am implying that the "truth" is a bad thing. What I actually said is that people (such as you and Jo) who claim to seek only the "truth" and then go out of their way to deny anything and everything that contradicts their version of the "truth" in order to keep their Cooper stories alive, are drags on solving the Cooper hijacking. Flooding the Cooper thread with fairy tales about KC and Jo's claims of what a great man Duane was and all the people he knew and the famous crimes he participated in do not add any validity to your posts. They are and remain pure bunk. Now to the umpteenth discussion of the so-called "FBI Maps" which both the FBI and Himmelsbach apparently have stated they don't know where the maps came from. Blevins has claimed knowledge that NWA prepared those maps. But as is his usual case, Blevins doesn't have any proof to support his claim. Nor does he have any proof that the maps were actually for NWA 305. NEVERTHELESS, somewhere out there in Cooperland and probably on Sluggo's web page, is a copy of a map that indicates a segmented track on the west side of Portland. That particular map by itself disproves the claims of Blevins and Jo that the airliner DID NOT pass on the WEST side of Portland. Assuming, of course, that the so-called FBI maps represent the flight track of NWA 305. But Blevins and Jo must continue to favor a flight path on the EAST side of Portland in order to keep their Cooper candidate stories alive. So this matter will continue to have a life of its own. Robert99

*** I could care less about the flight path - it means nothing to me and if it did I am not skilled enough to understand it...[ /quote] Jo, Since you get hysterical when anyone suggests that the airliner did not pass east of Portland (and it didn't), your claim above is nonsense. You do understand that your candidate for Cooper absolutely requires a flight path east of Portland. I may just be getting jaded, but I am no longer surprised that the people who claim to "just want to know the truth" (Jo and Blevins) are also the same ones who put out about half of the posts on this thread and change their statements as often as is necessary to support their Cooper candidates and to cover up their errors. Robert99

Blevins, As I told you several years ago just before blocking your PMs, KC is not a viable candidate for being Cooper for a large number of reasons. As I remember also, you told me that if KC wasn't Cooper then you didn't know who it could be. Additionally, you also told me at that time that you were considering withdrawing your KC book. Unfortunately, you didn't. Do you blame snow in Seattle on Geoff Gray? Even if he hasn't mentioned anything about snow there? You seem to attribute statements to other writers only when you have been caught with egg on your face. Do you know what quotation marks are for and how references to other people's work is handled? Finally, would you know a "fact" if it bit you in the butt? Robert99

Something we finally agree upon. And I will grant you that none of the current crop of suspects, including KC, rise to that level. There are other forms of evidence besides physical evidence. Such as witness testimony. Do you realize how little is actually required to prove (should any LEO entity take the time to bother) whether Christiansen was the guy or not? It is VERY little, but also beyond my ability to do so. But here's the best example: On the Decoded show, alleged accomplice Bernie Geestman told the cast that yes...Kenny could be the hijacker. Geestman adds that Kenny looks 'just like the sketch'. However, multiple witnesses whom I consider solid, reliable, and truthful have all agreed on the same point. That Geestman and Christiansen went missing for the entire week of the hijacking together. Also remember that Geestman's wife has outright accused her ex-husband of being a participant in the hijacking. She didn't hint around about it, she SAID he was involved. And not in just one interview, but seven, although she did try to keep Kenny's name out of the whole thing until the last interview, where she admits he WAS with Kenny that week. Let's suppose that the Seattle FBI finally decides to check out these witnesses' stories, find the stories credible, and brings everyone to Seattle for a little chat... This is the point where the FBI runs Geestman's statement for him from Decoded on a little flat screen, and then presents him with the testimony of the witnesses. What happens after that? Your guess is as good as mine. But there it is. You want to prove or disprove Christiansen as the hijacker, that's how you do it. One of two things will probably happen. Either Geestman will attempt to lie his way out of it, (probably won't work) or he will admit his guilt. If he goes for the latter, then he will undoubtably provide information to the FBI that will settle the case to their satisfaction. In any event, it's likely that the FBI - in order to finally close the case - would urge Geestman to come clean and assure him he won't be prosecuted today. There is a THIRD possibility of course. That neither man was involved. But this is hard to reconcile with the confirmed (more than one witness) missing-over-the-key-week, KC's chute experience, his sudden influx of cash, and his resentment with the airline. There could be some OTHER explanation for everything, yes. But it's hard to get around those six interviews with Mrs. Geestman where she names Bernie, and the fact that he's been caught in multiple lies...all related to distancing himself from either the Cooper case or Kenny Christiansen. Blevins, You continue to claim that KC had a "sudden influx of cash". But you apparently can't produce any proof to back up your allegation. You now even claim that your none-existent real estate records, proving that "sudden influx of cash" bit, are being reserved for your third book. Why don't you stop the BS and prove something right now? But, of course, you don't have any proof to back up your claims do you? You have been doing things this way for the last three years. Robert99

Whatever KC's base income was from NWA, it was definitely more than $212 per month. In addition, KC had free "room and board" for about half of each month during the time he was on trips for NWA. Expense account living is the way to go! Robert99

I grabbed the amazing map a woman sent me from WA. I laid it on the kitchen bar and asked Duane to show me where he was on this Thankgivine Eve 42 yrs ago. Why I did what I did - I will never know. I grabbed the Oatmeal box and put my finger in and got a pinch of Oatmeal. I held the Oatmeal just above where the woman had written this is where the plane door opened. She lived in that area. I held the pinch of oatmeal up and as I let it go I blew on it in the direction the wind would be blowing. Even I do NOT believe what happened. There were 3 grains of oatmeal. One was at a position where 505 & 504 intersect and just to the EAST of Toutle. I had highlighted this a few wks ago. The second grain was just below the S.W. flank of Mt St Helens. The third grain was below Swift Reservoir. This was uncanny and I am sure just a quirk of fate. I felt some how he had answered my question. Jo, As the inventor of the Jo Weber Oatmeal Divination System, you may very well win a Nobel Prize. I don't know what field it would be in, but the JWODS must advance SOMETHING somewhere. Please repeat your experiment using Fiber One and Wheaties? And please report the results here as soon as possible. You may want to check with 377 to see if you can get a patent on JWODS. Robert99

Blevins, To use your words to answer your own question, you don't have the slightest idea about the flight path of the airliner and you do not have the slightest idea about where Cooper jumped. You do not have any information to support any flight path or jump point. And in addition, it is apparent that you don't have any real information to support your claims about KC. Robert99

Come on, Robert. Google him for crying out loud. He was one of the smartest people ever to work for Northwest Airlines. Probably THE smartest. There's even a scholarship named after him. The map creation reference came from Bill Rataczak, and in part from NWA history museum. I can't believe you don't know Soderlind's history, either. Why don't you contact Bruce Kitt at the NWA Museum and ask him about Soderlind and the map, and whether Soderlind and his team gave the FBI accurate info on the flight path. Look, I'll save you some time. Attached is a pic of Soderlind taken in 2000. You view it...and then guess why he was there. (Hint...see sign in background) And here's a good article about him. EDIT: GrayCop says in part... ***'It was truly KENNETH P CHRISTIANSEN and that's that...' Look, I appreciate your vote of confidence on Christiansen, but he has NOT been proven to be Cooper. This will never happen unless Bernie Geestman finally comes clean and stops lying. Or, if the results of the NPR investigation figure it out one way or another. Otherwise, Kenny is just another in a long list of suspects. Yes, there is evidence against him in the form of witness testimony and some pics and documents. But there is no smoking gun as yet. The evidence against him is mainly circumstantial. Blevins, Why do you ignore the statements about the Seattle ATC transcripts being redacted? As they were released, they do not support your allegations about the flight path. Also, I believe that Tom Kaye's actual conclusions are that the Washougal flow down theory for the money arrival is not supported by his test results. So how do you think the money arrived at Tena Bar? Obviously, you are supporting a "plant" even if you don't use the word. And, of course, you need a "plant" to support your claim that KC was Cooper and that he survived the jump. Robert99

Blevins, I doubt very much that the FBI released the map as "evidence". Instead, they probably released it and the other materials as "information". So I have to prove that the so-called FBI map, which is of unknown origins, is wrong? Why haven't you been able to prove that the composite picture released by the FBI is wrong? It sure doesn't look anything like KC or any other suspect. Indeed, the airline crew was in constant communication with the ATC system through normal radio channels, as well as other people such as NWA through the ARINC radio system. And if you have bothered to read the Seattle ATC radio transcripts, then I shouldn't have to point out to you that they have been redacted in 19 places. That includes the very time that Cooper is believed to have jumped. There is no information in the Seattle ATC transcripts that can be used to pinpoint the location of the airliner. What is the source of your information that Paul Soderlind "had a hand in the creating that map [the so-called FBI map]"? And what is the basis of your comment that "Soderlind is no slouch..."? You have no idea how the FBI "thinks", but they apparently "think" there is no point in pursuing the KC information that you bombard them with. Blevins, You appear to be attributing some statements to Tom Kaye that he didn't make. It might be a good idea for YOU to pay his web page a visit and see what he actually says. And you should pay attention to his comments about the tests with the money in the water. And also his tests involving rubber bands. Robert99

Blevins, You continue to claim that the flight path is known. If you had any aviation knowledge, experience, or training, you would know that is not the case. If you think the so-called "FBI flight map" is correct, then you are sadly mistaken. And that has been pointed out to you any number of times on this thread. And as has also been pointed out to you countless times, even the FBI has stated they do not know where that map came from and Himmelsbach has reportedly stated that he had never seen it. Even a 16-year old student pilot can point out the errors in that map. Your "aeronautical research" is even worse than your "KC real estate research". But then you probably didn't do any research at all in either case. Robert99

Blevins, I'll bet that Gray and the WSHM appreciate your heads-up that they were going to have to wing it at the symposium without your assistance. And with all of your comments that someone may come forward someday and finger KC as Cooper, just ignore the contradictory evidence in the meantime, puts you squarely in the Jo Weber class of investigators. Robert99

Blevins, The people that your book brought into the investigation on KC seem to be unable to verify your claims about him. Even you admit to not being able to verify your claims and pass the buck to other people and organizations. The PERFECT Cooper book would be one in which the author doesn't have to spend his time back tracking from his original claims. And where all claims can be verified by other people. Your only interest in the Cooper case is making a buck and getting some publicity for yourself. Robert99

Blevins, Stop trying to pass the buck to the WSHM. In blaming other people and organizations for all the world's problems, as you do above, you seem to forget that you no longer want to talk about how you screwed up your own book with sloppy research or maybe no research at all. And you are still trying to make money with that highly flawed book. Robert99

Blevins, You may pontificate all you want, but it looks you and Jo have a new fellow giving you some stiff competition for being irrelevant. Compared to the current active three, Bob Knoss is beginning to look sane. Robert99 +1 It truly has become a drop zone. What a load of baloney. I do not spend my time re-quoting large posts in their entirety and them simply posting up a line or two of nonsense in reply...without even addressing the post. That would be the guy who did that FIVE TIMES on the same page back there... When you say 'irrevelent,' regarding GrayCop or Jo, there are two things here. First, I don't control what they post, so address that problem with THEM. Second, I don't consider GrayCop's evidence (such as it is) much benefit in proving or disproving whether Christiansen was the hijacker. Neither you or Georger even bothered to address my post, which was pretty simple anyway. Georger just posted up five quotes with junk at the end of them. So if you want to blame someone for the demise of this thread, you go to HIM first. Blevins, Man up! You don't have to be modest about your accomplishments here. Just follow Jo's example and ignore everything that contradicts the baloney you are trying to peddle. Robert99

Blevins, You may pontificate all you want, but it looks you and Jo have a new fellow giving you some stiff competition for being irrelevant. Compared to the current active three, Bob Knoss is beginning to look sane. Robert99

Blevins, Your remarks about Meyer Louie have nothing to do with Bruce Smith's book. Have you ever written ANYTHING that was subjected to a peer review process or ANY kind of serious editing? Robert99

Blevins, Before you start trying to mess up Bruce's book, why don't you do the publishing industry and the real Cooper researchers a great favor and withdraw your own piece of trash from the market. Even if you are still giving your book away, it just adds more baloney to the Cooper case and some people will be dumb enough to accept your unproven claims as facts. NOTE TO BRUCE SMITH: Bruce, don't let Blevins "help" you! If you need editorial or other journalistic assistance, check out your local writer resources. Perhaps Meyer Louie can put you in touch with someone at his college. Robert99

Jo, You apparently married men who were quite a bit older than you. And the first one apparently involved a lot of bad judgment on your part. Nevertheless, your only answer to my post was to spend two more pages repeating your original nonsense. Robert99

Jo, After writing the above quote, you then continue on for THREE PAGES taking your customary digs at the FBI, Galen Cook, Bruce Smith, Georger and everyone else on this thread (which is ever body) who disagrees with you. Plus, you tell the police working the Cossey murder where they are screwing up. Jo, you are a perfect example of why men would rather date divorcees than widows. The divorcees know that their ex-husband was just a no-good s.o.b.. On the other hand, widows think their late husband was a saint even if he was a bigger s.o.b. than any divorcees ex-husband. Jo, you haven't learned a single thing about life since you were in the second grade. Robert99

Jo, No I don't get it! For someone who spent so much time in jail for petty offenses, I doubt if Duane even knew how to think anything through. Robert99

Jo, IF the ticket had anything to do with the Cooper hijacking, and you do NOT have any information that it did, then Duane wouldn't keep it for 25 years unless he was determined to get himself locked up again. Just hang on to all the incriminating evidence and maybe the cops will finally come looking for it and send you back to jail again. Robert99