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After all these years around jumpers, if I had just 25 cents for each person I know who has been down that road, I could throw one hell of a dropzone party. AIDS is a real killer of marriage/relationships happends to pilots a lot too, spending to much time at the airport. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Dammit man your longwinded! Going to take two days to wirte a reply... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well you of all people would know, what's up. I didn't search the net or anything, I just remembered ASCAP giving my bar owner friend a ton of shit for playing CD's in the bar. I have had really good luck finding royalty free music in CD bundles from Ebay, the music I thought would suck real bad is really not bad at all. I got 6 disks for about 35 bucks, I wouldn't use the music on tandem videos, but it works very well for many other productions. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Put the crack pipe down, and back away from the keyboard. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

No spence would bash on you to your face. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yes, but everything you posted is so true and the right way to go about training your dogs, and my guess is anyone who knows you and your "pack" would say you have done well, based on what has been said about how well they are at the DZ. I guess the main point in my post was, it takes time and being consistent in your actions and commands in a calm and assertive manner.

At times yes it is, like if it is on your leg. However most common is a "putting down" till submission.(watch Cezar if you don't understand "putting down") The way the dog sees it is, your just some flunky that shows up on the weekend for some ass from "pack leader". So your not "alpha" or the owner/boss of me, fuck off. As soon as you let the dog eat the food you lost the fight already. (unless your pack leader) Now had you taken control and owned the food dish from the start you then could have taken the food away, if you would show ownership of the bowl again. Ownership is easy to do, all you have to do is make the dog sit, dominate the dish by placing yourself between front of the bowl and the dog, put in food and don't move away. The dog MUST stay! If you move away and the dog makes a move without being told it's ok, you have to move back right away and body block the bowl and make the dog sit and stay again, repeat this till the dog will sit and stay with food in bowl till told OK. If done right this won't take long, my Lab learned this in one try, but then again I'm pack leader and not some flunky stopping by for some tail (pun intended) now and again. The most important thing to remember is never hit an animal or get angry while trying to train because of the energy your putting out is not calm and assertive, and they will pick up on that and you will get no where. This type of training takes time and only working with the dog a few hours a week is not the best way to do this. This needs to be done fulltime and both of you have to be the same in how you work with the dog. For example you can't tell the dog it is ok to get on the bed, if mama don't let the dog on the bed durring the week. If you keep working at it the right way, it will work out in the end or you'll have to call Cezar or find a new chick without a dog. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Thanks for the info on that. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

You shouldn't have tried to take something you don't own. You have to own it first, before you take it. You own it by being dominate first as a pack leader, once you own it, then you take it. If you want break the cycle, you need to move in front of the bowl and dominate it when it is time to eat, and the dog must submit to waiting it's turn (pack leader always eats first) in a calm and submissive state and only then you give permission to eat. My dog will sit and wait till told it is ok to eat once the food hits the bowl and we do it everytime. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

www.ascap.com While this may not be just what your looking for, I do know that these people got all up the ass of a bar owner I know for playing music in his bar (yes CD owned by him) because it was a live music hall, they even wanted to try to get him to pay royalties for each cover tune palyed in the bar by live bands. He did end up paying a royalites fee to make them go away. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yo skippy, in this sport you get skills from experience and experience from your use of skills, both take time to acquire. So far in this thread and your posts in the photography forum, you seem to be in a big hurry to puff out your chest and strut your stuff around the barn yard as if your the first hotshit skygod to grace us with your ever so valued input and we should be glad that you stopped by to let us all know how great you are and how your the first guy on the block to have it all figured out and you got all the answers too, just ask ya. Did ya get yer camera all saran wrapped up and ready to go. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It should be. And you should be. Happend before with others "falling out of the hole" like the tandem passanger this past summer, I remember a girl student in the south a few years ago who fell out on deployment of a rig that didn't fit. When in a sit, the leg straps can slide down towards your knees, if you don't move them back up and deploy, you can bend in half and out you "can" go. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yes and No. Yes as far as jumping a large canopy, even if you only go backwards, as long as your good at flying a canopy backwards. (now a lost art, once rounds are gone) Not safe to have a rig on you that is to big for your body and falling off of you in the plane, if you can climb out of the harness on the ground or in the plane, you can FALL out in the air! There have been cases of this in the past, more then once. 1.Call around to see if any other DZ's have smaller rigs for students. (most places have them) 2. Keep saving your money for your own rig, its winter now anyway, so you won't be jumping. 3. keep an eye out for good deals, older closet queens can be a real good deal, older don't mean bad. 4. Don't jump till you find a proper fitting harness and container and don't jump in high winds or in locations where a flea might fart untill you get a canopy more matched to your wing loading and weight. (or hook up your canopy backwards, at least you be able to land going forwards.) you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That is not really needed these days with the newer fabrics and now the newer water proof ADD's. I find it a lot easyer to do a better job leaving the rig together, helps to get the side flaps real clean and it get's the sweat smell out of the main canopy as well and keeps the lines looking newer longer too, it also make for a faster wash time with a lot less work. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yes, that's Ted. BSBD you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Will these work for ya? I may have posted one or two of these before? I don't remember.....enjoy.

Well said! I'm going to take a wild guess here, based on your numbers. My guess is you and I both started to get into playing with cameras in freefall close to the same time frame. (when I started there was no BSR and the 500 rule was broke all the time and I started at 80 jumps) Back then if you were going to fly cameras you had to really put some thought in to it and build a system, sure you could get a sundance protec, but you still had to build it out. There also wasn't many people flying cameras then, but we used to see all kinds of crazy ass ideas built out on helmets, and it was BIG/large old heavy crap. So you and I, have seen how those of us who lived through those days experimenting with that stuff, understand how we got to where we are now in terms of gear alone. Today, anyone can pick up the phone or keyboard and order up all the new fancy crap their wallet will allow for (no one will check your log or license). Most of it is sleek and light weight and durable now and 10 time better images. So it's way easyer today and any Tom,Dick & Mary can spend some cash for toys and then get online and ask how to put it all together or what should I buy, without really doing a search or reading the FAQ. How many post do we see like this on here, by people with low jumper numbers, it's now a fashion thing in the sport and has been for sometime. In the last 10 years I have seen so many FNG's get in a hurry to jump cameras, run out a throw money around and disrgard advice given, get the wrong shit for the job and then show up wanting to know how to fix or set up their crap from those they disregarded in the first place. I find it kind of funny, really, and have seen a lot of them come and go over time. They get into the sport hot and heavy and in 4 yrs got all the high dollar matching gear and cameras, spend a ton of money doing it, while making fun of my 1998 Javelin and then poof their gone and are selling all their fancy stuff, all the while thinking they were hotshit in the sky and the next Norm Kent. Well I would love stay all day and chat, but I got to go re-saran wrap all my cameras now after changing tapes. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Kynan1 Jumps : 84 License: Student In sport: 1 years Yep, in your camera bag left on the ground. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

LOL, John, your so right about that. But now days very few DZ's offer S/L anymore, and more and more DZ's are getting rid of the program, for many reasons. Your class of 75, right? How much was a FJC or a refresher class + lift in 75? Where I was I think a FJC was still 35 or 45 bucks, but it may have been as high as 75, I think slots were 8 to 10 to 7.5. (Today's avg. is FJC 189.00 and retrain is 75.00. slots are 49.00w/rig S/L solo) S/L takes a long time to train VS TDM, less cash flow VS TDM or AFF per student.(But cost less to put out per student) We still offer it, and get people who did 1,2,,3,4,5,10 jumps back in the 70's, 80's and 90's who show up again, but now with their kids and grandkids to jump. And a lot of them want to do S/L like pop's did, some want to TDM. We get a lot of collage students who can't afford to do to AFF or TDM progression and they would fall into the "part time" jumper group. If we didn't still offer S/L we would lose a lot of students due to cost factors, many of the S/L's we get don't stay current and have to refresh and drcp again, but the cost is low in their mind, so they return later and often bring buget minded friends. We offer them a second jump for 30 if they buy it then and are current (good for yr. w/out retrain fee) most make a second that day. While our S/L numbers are in decline, due to our push towards AFF, it has been a good program to keep around. Some people do a couple aff jumps and then due to cost go to S/L or go from S/L to AFF in the upper levels of the programs. Poster Floats18 on here is a very good example of how S/L can work to build the student base. I first saw a post by him on here about 3 yrs ago, saying he had two S/L jumps and wanted to save up to do AFF, but was a collage student. I sent him a PM to send him to a friends DZ to look into S/L and packing to pay for jumps. It turns out he was close to where I was jumping at the time, so he showed up with one of our staff I hooked him up with for a ride share, checked out the place, and then we couldn't get rid of the guy. He worked his ass off learning to pack and packed all weekend or did whatever (DZ SLUT) to pay for his jumps, he did I think 150 the first year and earned a coach. He went on to restart his schools skydiving club and started to bring large groups out to jump in all programs. He is still jumping and being a pain in the ass some place on the east coast. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I saw Jerry this morning in the hills while getting java, so he around and kicking, looking good and said he is doing well. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

You know beatnic is sitting there thinking where can I find one of those, babies. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It's a batfoil, the prototype to the batwing..... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I couldn't help it. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

DIY you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo