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Clearly you don't know shit then about what you can and can't do in freefall as an instructor or a student. Yes you need those hand signals for a good reason, that said.... Guess what ace, yelling in your ear to ARCH as I flip your floundering fat ass around in the sky, is part of the instructor hand book and part of what you pay for, like good advice as to where to put your full face helmet. Maybe you should spend less time worrying about wanting to look like a fashion statement and worry more about making skydives without such know it all attitude. clearly a lot of shit you are not aware of related to skydiving and skydiving instruction. Carry on. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It's simple.... Because with it on you won't hear shit when I yell it in your ear, like you would with a protec on with open side on the ears. You also can't and won't hear shit under canopy. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I got the boot about a week or so ago.... LOL Ok so who is leading the next formation flight, blk out, non blk out, who give a fuck, just make it LOUD!

Look on the bright side of thongs will ya, at lease we made skydiving gear so safe, that now, skydiving is dangerous again. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Who said anything about buying gear? There is a lot of it out there with a little looking around and asking favors or renting it. Try thinking outside the box for a change, Martin. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well I kind of think they should be free to tell some one to shut the fuck up, if they need to be told that. If you or I can say that STFU stuff, then the mods should be able to as well. Skeleton suit, should be a slightly used on the market soon, I hear. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I would have to agree with cpoxon here and heed HH request guy's and I, most likely are one of the offending parties at calling names in this thread. That said, I would hate to have this treasure trove of hilarity removed, after going back and re reading the whole thread, I must admit, you all are some funny mofo's! There is way too much comedic stuff in here to lose it. So please let's all heed our warning and play nice as we have been asked to do, I know I'm trying very hard to comply with that request, please do the same. P.S. if you are in need of a laugh, start back on page one and it's kind of hard to stop. (yea I get not everyone find the humor here, sorry about that) you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Oh you noticed that too did ya. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

wow you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LukvyGa2vmQ One of my new fav's BAD 440 @240.... giddy up! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Or the other choice would be to find another progression as a choice to the person, so that if fit and able, yet a big brick shit house kind of build, there is gear out there that can accommodate those larger built people. For example I know of one now licensed jumper who got there by doing all their student jumps on a racer tandem rig and because those at the dz were willing to think outside the standard answers given at most places. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Um no he is currently leading his "bullies" in an inbound formation flight to buzz a property in a undisclosed location.... We'r currently on a victor vector and flying IRF cuz leader boy there can't read a sectional and theonlyski forgot his GPS. We tired to let skyjumpinfool lead, he said he knew the way and we ended up over Loveland. sundevil777 spoke up and said we need to turn right and we over flew Wyoming.... RM1 said to post for directions and Normiss forgot, that's how we ended up in this victor vector and holding @ 3K. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Me too, hey let's start a club.... LOL P.S. Hi Kim. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

So you think that AAD fund had anything to do with keeping CQS from getting any where for the last two yrs? ROFLMAO Yea that is a good one. Had nothing to do with it at all! The federal aviation laws is what stopped them and will stop them again, not the tiny minor threat of the USPA AAD fund.... LOL You did, good for you, feel free to again, no one is stopping you. Did I and would I.... nope not now and most likely never will because that fund does little, it's a drop of water in a vast ocean, (those I know who did get funding said it was helpful to them, what few there are) and because I don't agree with how OUR due monies is wasted on other pet projects that have little to do with true advocacy and keeping skydivers protected to use FFA's. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Please go take the time to educate yourself on how that works. And for those USPA leaders who read here, see how fucked up that shit is, that for yrs our members are not clearly educated on how that funding program works, O' yea that's right, too busy paying for that PR firm for it's work generating fluffy feel good bits crap reporting and VERY little if any $$$ on real advocacy. FYI, that fund is only for select cases and not just any old little legal issue that comes along. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

And so the real fun starts... giddy up! http://www.timescall.com/longmont-local-news/ci_24406773/quiet-skies-sue-mile-hi-skydiving-noise-longmont you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I got no cat in this fight, but I just read the AAD report, he deployed @ 2900 and stopp @ 2001, then cutaway under 500ft and without a skyhook, the AAD fired and he went in with the reserve handle in the pocket. I fail to see the fault in the extraction, the bag was out and canopy was starting, when the deployment starts at 200 ft and at terminal, well um, gee kind of hard to over look the main failure on that accident. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4502306#4502306 There is a lesson in Larry's death, it's not a new one, we've all known about it for yrs, and train to avoid it, or we should be, yet time & time again we lose friends like Larry in the same way he was lost.... he won't be the last, I wish it was, but that facts are what they are. If we want to talk about extraction force issues, then lets talk about hand deploying a reserve like on that wings rig over the summer that is on video. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Seems I heard that once before.... pretty sure you ripped that off one of those decrepit old washed up has been dz bums, and that old man is crazy as a loon.... few stitches loose on the old webbing, you know.... LOL LOve YA... J.S.

1. How much over 220 are you and are u a football player built shape or out of shape and over weight. 2. What part of the state are you in? Depending on those answers I know people who might be able to help you in KS. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yea but beat your record by quite a bit.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

just do like I did and take an extra handle with you in the right front pocket, faster & easier to reach. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yea it is. And that is one of the main reason I take the time to post the media and additional info over the last few yrs as a couple of national cases play & played out. Some are still pending & we are still waiting on the "PLA"..... LOL Many people think with the win in Santa Clara County or Cresswell Ore. that the war is won. When in fact those are just a couple battles. As long as people have been having fun jumping out of planes, there been some assholes trying to keep everyone else from having a good time. Case in point of wackadoo's who don't get it : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Citizens-For-Quiet-Skies/213188222077598 So you keep these nut case and plain stupid non aviation general public people in mind..... the next time you hear about those in our own ranks talking bogus lies and bullshit in order to play politics and cause harm to other dz's. We have enough problem children to deal with trying to shut down our industry and cause harm, we don't need any internal help, we get more then enough of that with mad skillz kiddies. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Chatham skydiving operation has FAA blessing - Sep 19, 2013 http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130920/NEWS/309200320 Skydiving concerns neighbors in Chatham - Sep 28, 2013 http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131009/NEWS/310090330 ) Chatham selectmen say no to skydiving FAA response up in the air -4 hours ago 10-14-13 http://www.wickedlocal.com/orleans/topstories/x1843605720/Chatham-selectmen-say-no-to-skydiving CHATHAM — With hundreds of pages of documentation and the preponderance of 500 e-mails pointing out problems with Skydive Cape Cod, the board of selectmen agreed the business was an affront to the town’s tranquility. They also decided what to do about it. “I do think it has had a negative impact on the neighborhood and the discourse in town. I do think it is a problem and it needs to be addressed,” said Selectman Florence Seldin of the skydiving company that has operated at the municipal airport for several years. “I would vote to eliminate it. I don’t think of it as a safe operation.” Seldin suggested the town not renew the three-year contract with the company when it ends in November, and although the majority of the board agreed with that in theory, they wanted to see if the town could work with the Federal Aviation Administration first. Representatives from the FAA has said in the past that skydiving was a protected activity at airports and the millions of dollars the town receives to fund the airport would be cut off if it was prohibited. Although concerned with the potential loss of hundreds of thousands of federal dollars a year, Selectman Sean Summers said his primary interest was there was a large segment of the community who were upset with the operation and it was the responsibility of elected officials to act on their behalf. This was not a vocal minority, he said. Still, board members said it was wiser to work with the FAA and try to convince federal officials that skydiving – not just Skydive Cape Cod – was incompatible with the community. They plan to bring a number of arguments to the fore, including how – unlike other spots – the airport was ringed with neighborhoods and the town’s ongoing work to create a vibrant village center in West Chatham, where the airport is located. They recognize their chances may be slim. “I don’t see a lot of light at the end of that tunnel,” Town Counsel Jay Talerman told the board. He also said there is a clause in the contract – which is actually a subcontract between the skydiving company and Cape Cod Flying Circus that runs the airport for the town – that provides an out if there are demonstrable safety concerns. However, Talerman added, so far there have been no issues at Chatham Airport that would rise to level of being able to “void” the contract. So, while the board reached out to the FAA, they wanted to work on a new contract that would address some of the problems residents had with the company or any company that would respond to a request for proposals. When Skydive Cape Cod came to Chatham there was another company waiting in the wings. “[The contract] can be much more detailed and much more protective,” said Seldin. Some audience members had ideas on what that contract should stipulate. Although resident Jane Wilson is favor of eliminating skydiving at the airport all together, she did suggest safeguards that were required in Great Britain. Some of the policies in place across the pond include grounding operations in high winds, having additional testing for pilots and having a $7.5 million insurance policy to cover people on the ground. Her husband, Tom, said skydiving had virtually no oversight and that recommendations from the National Transportation Safety Board suggested more extensive jump plane maintenance and pilot training, but those recommendations weren’t enacted by the FAA. “In [NTSB’s] view it is not safe enough for Chatham,” he said. “Do what is right for your citizens and your tourists, put safety first.” Talerman said the board could look at limiting the frequency of flights, but had to walk a fine line, as the FAA wouldn’t allow an artificially low number that would put the operation out of business. Airport manager Tim Howard of Cape Cod Flying Circus said that the next contract, which needs to be signed off by the town manager and airport commission, could include issues that residents raised. One of those issues would be reporting when an empty parachute was released or cut loose because a problem arises. He also said airport staff had already asked Skydive Cape Cod to report when it had an offsite landing of a jumper for safety reasons – which happened at a local golf course. State and federal regulations do not require skydive companies to report empty chutes or off-site landings. Although willing to take on the FAA for constituents the board wasn’t exactly comfortable with the role they were assuming. “It goes against my grain,” said Summers, who is usually a strong voice for business and property rights. He said if a neighbor put a floodlight in their yard and a slew of neighbors complained the board would be hard-pressed to get involved. He said the owner of the skydiving company, Jim Mendoca, was acting within the law and trying to run a successful business. Summers sympathized with that, but said that business was upsetting a great number of taxpayers. Other selectmen had similar concerns. “I don’t think any of us is inclined to put a stranglehold on free commerce and businesses in this town,” said Selectman Len Sussman. Similar to the meetings held over the summer on the skydive operation, Tuesday’s meeting drew a crowd of folks who wanted it shut down. As in the past they cited safety concerns as well as problems with noise from the continuous flights. “The board of selectmen have the right, need and responsibility to not create a new contract with Skydive Cape Cod,” said resident Dennis Glover. Paula Lofgren, a neighbor of the airport who has spent nearly a year bringing forward concerns she has about the skydiving operation, said after the meeting that she was “profoundly grateful” to the board of selectmen. “I want to thank them not only for the time and effort they have taken this past year but also recognize the work ahead of them going forward with this issue,” she said. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

sadly this is not the only group of wacko's in the country saying the same things. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

The USPA members would be better served if USPA would spend more of it's time & money spent on the PR firm to promote the touchy feel goodie stories about the "hero's" and get a better job of educating & advocacy with more joint efforts with groups like the AOPA getting done would do more to help solve the problem on a national level. There are lots of skydiving operations on airports where no is getting a hard time and the airports are happy to accommodate an approved use. It's only a few retards who need getting a clue to the point it has to be forced on them, don't help matters when DZO's who are also FBO's talk shit about the sport to airport sponsors, can't comp's in the area. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo