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No chute was ever found. ? People looked everywhere ... nothing found.

Has implications not just for dna and potential donors and degradation of dna, , but also for the origin of particles Tom found on the tie. The tie has been all over the place! Another thought: proximity to the Nevada Proving Ground ..... In 1950 the AEC considered many sites for U.S. nuclear weapons development and effects testing. They then selected the Las Vegas Bombing and Gunnery Range. On December 18, 1950, President Harry Truman authorized the establishment of a 680 square mile portion of the Range as the Nevada Proving Ground.

I have no official information about dna tests done in the Cooper case! I have no idea how many donors there were. Different people say different things. I dont even know what Carr and others mean by 'partial' because they have never defined it!. The whole subject is pure speculation, so far as I am concerned. One FBI doc did specify a kit that was used in one report about Lab testing and I commented about that kit, and I speculated about what that kit might have revealed ... but that was all speculation. So far... various people have reported 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, and 22 donors that were revealed! I have no idea what is correct. I have no idea how many loci various kits revealed! All I have is the same everyone else has, namely that Carr said the FBI's dna result was a "partial" ... whatever that means. Every time anyone posts about what Cooper case genetic info the FBI has, I always wonder what the source of their information is ... just as a matter of habit developed in this socially toxic matter!

What do you mean by: ''Ive read discussion about there being 9 loci among the DNA.' Are you trying to say -- the FBI Lab identified 9 of 13 loci. ??? Whatever you mean, why would 'discussion' be a source for facts about the FBI Cooper case dna tests? Who or what is the source you are referring to? Who is discussing this that you trust as a reliable source ?

It stands in stark contrast to his earlier 'paranoia' over being interfered with, sky marshals on the plane, and an argumentative Rataczak ! The FBI chose not to risk a move during these openings! A bomb is a powerful deterrent.

depends entirely on how the hair is mounted ...

Nice report - keep plugging away....

You dont know until you try. An asteroid could wipe humanity out before trying! And probably will . . .

Good grief! Can Gryder give us the names of Cooper's children .... based on knotology? In the fifth quatrain of the maldum fornax of course!

So did his "knots" work, ie serve their intended purpose ? Since this is reason. (clairvoyance) What was his middle name also! Shoe size? Status of teeth. Last dental appointment. ? . . . . .

Well, you are speaking for yourself, not Cooper. Cooper could have demanded the knapsack again but he didnt. It appears he is trying to simplify things and speed things up. Normal turn-around time should have been 20-30 minutes (documented by Sluggo). But they stalled Cooper with refueling. In the meantime Cooper wants as few people as possible getting on/off the plane. He designates Tina to be the point person but that doesnt work out either. . Get the show on the road. Tina also says he tried dumping the money into a chute container but rejected that for some reason. By bypassing the knapsack he has put himself in a corner ... he finally decides on an ad-hoc solution to "get the show on the road" ... his first priority is getting the plane back in the air and getting out of Dodge asap where he is less vulnerable! The money is optional. Escape is the primary mission ... You guys are making more of this than there is!

Does not require a class in knot tying from the Coast Guard or the Army! Any kid could do that!

Is there any evidence Cooper tied any special kind of knot - which would require training of any kind ? Anything left on the plane which Cooper tied or knotted and left behind as evidence of his cord tying skill . . ? I dont recall Tina or anyone else saying anything about Cooper's cord tying skills! ???

I dont agree at all. Remember he got angry about them not including a knapsack - he complained to Tina about it. He not only complained he went further and 'explained' how was going to have to make up for the omission! That is arrogance. Maybe it blindsided him. It may indicate he is an arrogant person. He might say 'focused'. (I'll show them!) Confident he could come up with something that would be adequate he went ahead on his own. That is just the opposite of passivity. And perhaps what he came up with on his own did not work! I think if he hadnt thought he could put something together that would work he would have snapped back: get me the damned knapsack NOW@! (Stop wasting my time.) His arrogance shines through. After all - he is hijacking a commercial plane! Hijacking is aggressive and arrogant, by definition. He is serious - this is no mistake! Maybe not blowing up the plane indicates passivity ?

When did he write the note? Before or after boarding and seated. ?

The last letter is a boast! Every sentence is a boast. It is nonsense. Not to mention illiterate. .......... etc! Its almost laughable. ..... a concoction. ?

July 12, 2023 D. B. Cooper and Flight 305: Dan Sowa and the wind If this is what Sowa did, his estimate for Soderlind would have been consistent with the data at his disposal. Whether this was indeed his methodology, the documentation released so far to the public does not permit us to say. But Soderlind overlooked the probability that the wind would back back (turn anti-clockwise) as the hijacker descended. edit: [ none of this is fact but a possibility]

the FBI nor FAA has denied the existence of Unicorns. The FBI has prevented Unicorns from being released and the FAA defers to the FBI since this is a Unicorn case. Wa wa ninny nanny noo noo too. Unicorns must be on the table to read and ride. That dasterdly FBI had the UNICORNS - NOW WHAT DID IT DO WITH THEM? FESS UP FBI!

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So, in other words, (like Chaucer and R99), you are saying Soderlind had his head up his ass and didnt know what he was doing ? But you do .... ?

The hijacking occurred in India - not in the United States ! ( couldn't resist)

New style smaller format for the page. Is there any way to get back to the larger classic page we had?

anything new on your Oregon suspect ?

As I understand this (having talked to locals) Ted was in trouble and suspected of committing crimes, almost from the minute Ted's brother David moved Ted into the cabin. David was aware that Ted was 'a problem' and that had been going on for years with his brother - but what to do? The reason David bought the cabin and moved Ted into it was not just to give Ted a life, but to keep him isolated from the world and trouble. David was struggling just to keep his own life and family going. Ted was brought up on local/area charges several times where he lived, prior to him being identified as the Unabomber. Charges against him always failed due to 'lack of proof'. (poisoning people's dogs, dropping boulders on railroad tracks, destruction of railroad property, various thefts in the area ...etc...) ... in spite of all of that Ted continued to circulate in the local community and as far away as Helena where he went out of his way to meet a reporter at a Helena newspaper (a former classmate of mine at SUI !). Ted was out there in the public domain, well known ... several people had speculated that he might be ;'DB Cooper' but that was dismissed easily because of Ted's age and his appearance - he did not fit the Cooper profile even remotely. When the FBI finally identified Ted they had to move very quickly and quietly so as not to tip off anyone, including Ted. Their plan for taking Ted down worked or Ted would have fled into the mountains. Ted had fled law enforcement before and had vanished for days ... he always had a survival kit and a gun ready just in case.. on this occasion with the cabin encircled, an Agent just walked up and knocked on the door and Ted answered the door and it was over.