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All those interviews, six trips to Twisp at five hundred miles and four mountain pass crossings per trip. Up to Port Angeles, over to Fox Island, across the state to Winthrop, you name it...I probably went there if it was in Washington, and a few places in Oregon. I neglected book work and nearly put AB of Seattle into bankruptcy. And I did all this by giving up weekends and vacations for more than a year and working a full time job on our other business. Since that one actually paid the bills, I could not neglect it. What fun. If the FBI is checking out KC, then I just hope they figure it out one way or another. Either he was, or he wasn't. I think I gave them enough to work with. They have virtually everything now. You sacrificed everything. A casino would have been quicker - but you have made a new friend: Jerry Thomas. So you have come a long way. In a way, I guess Geestman had his way with you. Certainly not what you intended. No wonder you are so angry with him

Grade 1, Commercially Pure Titanium Composition Titanium 99.67 Carbon 0.08 Iron 0.03 Nitrogen 0.03 Oxygen 0.18 Hydrogen 0.015 Percentage by weight Handbook of Cooperhelia says: Grade 1 Commercially Pure Titanium Titanium is classified in two categories: 1- commercially pure titanium (Ti) which is used in the chemical process industries and The purer forms of Ti are resricted to a very small market. 2- titanium alloys having additives such as aluminum (Al) and vanadium (V) and which are used for jet aircraft engines, airframes and other components. Unalloyed and alloyed titanium have been used in medical engineering for many years and include the following: joint replacement parts for hip, knee, shoulder, spine, elbow and wrist, bone fixation materials such as nails, screws, nuts and plates, dental implants and parts for orthodontic surgery and dental prosthetics, heart pacemaker housings and artificial heart valves, surgical instruments for heart and eye surgery, components in high-speed blood centrifuges. Titanium has long been considered an exotic metal. In recent years there has been a progressive change in its image from an expensive curiosity to material much more familiar to consumers as it finds more commercial applications such as eyeglass frames, sports equipment, accessories and art, in its alloyed forms. German sands 1972 titanium production exported to America - few refiners graders processors - see DuPont - see Matha DuPont and Kathryn P at Bowels Antiques (north of Boston) - Titanium patents filed 1971-72 in prosthetics & other medical applications - contracts cancelled by DuPont 1971-72 to refiners - German supply contracts cancelled KMML Kerala - das ist alles.

what? when? where? blannnk spaaaace ? smoke em if you got em hunker down - they're just over the next hill ... being interviewed on tee vee. probably planning to colonize the planet next .

http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/23/8982109-40-years-later-new-evidence-emerges-in-db-cooper-case still fucked up - probably shut down for the holiday with a ton of advertising cookies to load on people's computers ... wait 5 mins for the thing to load if its going to - what is "pure" titanium? Like "pure" jello or pure gold ? What is Tom Kaye trying to say?

Guess Blevins is busy and cant reply - The link is good. The problem is the shitty server on the other end over loaded with advertising. The core of the article is this: In 1971 there was a big upheaval in the titanium industry with the cancelling of the SST project, which happened to be at Boeing, and that laid a lot of people off in the industry. So Cooper could have been part of the fallout,” said Kaye. Boeing canceled its Super Sonic Transport project, one of the first civilian planes to use titanium, just months before the 1971 hijacking. Washington state was suddenly plunged into an economic crisis. Could Cooper have been unemployed and so desperate that he would threaten to blow up a passenger jet and then parachute with $200,000 in ransom money? Kaye said the titanium is pure, not processed like the kind used in aircraft manufacture. Kaye’s team believes he was probably employed at a titanium production or fabrication facility or a chemical plant. Chemical plants used titanium mixed with aluminum for their anti-corrosive properties. Kaye said aluminum particles were also found on Cooper’s tie. Good luck. Blevins will explain everything for Tom in due course.

Will Snowmman be there ? Curtis Ng ? Geestman ? Porteous ? Pam Curtis ? Galen Cook ? Cossey ? Janet ? You can tell us. Be sure and tell them.

Perhaps you should give it a break. Do you see me attending any of this? And my office is about two hours away. No. Why? Personal decision. If you're so smart, why don't YOU go down and do 'cleanup' instead of bringing my name up (again). Sometimes pictures can tell a story better than words. Some cartoons attached, varied subjects. Nothing too personal. My my. Such a ramification you make. You cannot be excelled in the poo-poo dept. You ignored Thomas' invitation - that was a BIG mistake! Thomas was inviting you in, for the fitting of vestments. You spurn such joy in favor of pointing cartoons at him! Now you must go into the ring with the bull, for your breach. Viens faire toi- même le mélange des couleurs...

Precisely - exactly. Gray has caused a train wreck again. Call in the wrecking crew. Blevins can be called in for cleanup and Ingram will give the parting invocation, in Pig Latin. Let the Roast begin!

and several observers taking notes. Im told Phoenix Jones of Seattle will be there to keep order. Yawl know who he is. But, Sluggo has not been mentioned. ??? "the most dogged, devout and informed Cooper sleuths, all of whom have come together to answer once and for all, forty years later, who was King Kong?” Klaatu barada nikto, Gort.

in case you didnt see my add: NR0X died suddenly yesterday -

I would rather have an old Austin Healey ! At least I can heard cows with that! Zoom zoom. btw: NR0X died suddenly yesterday! Not sure what will happen to his antenna farm ...

Cook is a big chicken. Never seen him post here, except occasionally by proxy. You want to meet a guy who pumps the media and cranks out empty promises, ('my book and the solution are coming soon!') that would be him, not me. And he knows better than to debate me on the Cooper case publicly. But, to correct your false information, Galen Cook was once a subscriber and poster at this forum - long before you.

Actually there will be one at the symposium in Portland. It will be offered in a charity auction. It is one of the ones found at Tena Bar. Hope its a good specimen (some were pretty small pieces). 377 Where did it come from, from who? I cant see H giving up his bill! Not from the insurance company either. That leaves . . .

I would slap down Cook like a red-haired stepchild. I dont like your phraseology above, Mr Blevins, and I dont like where it leads. Cant you just leave children out of your comparisons and imagery, when slapping down adults? What do you have against red haired stepchildren that they get slapped down, in your world ? Their appearance? Please curb your violent confrontational personality, again, Mr. Blevins. Are we going to need Quade again so you can get control of yourself, again?

Maybe some day someone will just deck your ass and have it over with? Gayla can clean you off and write claiming you are an undiscovered Jackass who was victimised! I dont buy your claim you 'got to the bottom of' the MCCoy story "at the time" (in 1972) when you would have been age fourteen just starting Highschool. And, dont even bother fabricating another version! The bell has tolled - the bell just tolled on thee. You are just one more bullshit artist in the Cooerphelia, along with so many. Nobody gives a rats ass what you think, about anything.

Georger, Now that Al's brain is on public display, perhaps someone could download his memory cells and determine if Mileva deserves any credit. But she did get the money. Its a wild goose chase. In spite of Dord Krstic's efforts, there is nothing to show that Mileva supplied any of the crucial ideas or the mathematics to Albert. If anyone was going to do that it would have been someone like Marcel Grossman who actually collaborated with Albert and was even superior to Albert in some areas of statistical analysis. Albert went through a period where he and Grossman worked together continually to develop certain mathematical explications together. During this period Albert was very reliant on Grossman for mathematical ideas ... because Marcel was a pure mathematician vs Albert who was more technically inclined, concerned with theoretical matters in physics. For one thing, Mileva was older than Albert. She had already been atthe Institute, first pursuing a medical career (at her father's wish), before Albert showed up. She fell hard for Albert when he came on the scene but course records show she was never on Albert's level mathematically, and in factshe failed several crucial lab courses and was not passed, whereas Albert skated along easily in the same work. Albert even tried to intercede on Mileva's behalf after she failed and her academic work was over, but it did no good. Some people think she even seduced Albert. They went off and spent a lost weekend traveling out of which she became pregnant, quit her course work, and returned to her family. It proved a large disruption with Albert feeling guilty, Albert went and retrieved her, and they returned to Zurich where they both reenrolled at the Institute. She failed but Albert passed. Hans Albert was born. The rest is history. But the Mileva story is very persistent. My grandmother even heard it in the 30s while doing work at the U of Colorado. (Albert gave over his Nobel Prize money to Mileva with which she bought several rental properties to support herself and the children; the rental properties eventually failed, Mileva took in work and tutored people (in math!), family helped from her father's estate, and Albert helped more financially. Once Hans Albert was old enough he helped financially to his mother, ) I have heard the Mileva story at least 5 times in different versions from people who knew Albert at Princeton, from people who knew and worked closely with Hans Albert, and from people who were close to Erwin Fraundlich who worked with Albert. On the other hand, I have never heard this story outside this group from the many people who knew and worked with Albert and I have never heard that Albert brought this matter up, with anyone. No one has ever been able to present any documentation that Mileva supplied specific ideas or mathematical work which Albert used directly. In contrast to that, there are documents which show Mileva making spelling and syntax corrections (in her handwriting) to someof Albert's "lecture notes", once he was teaching. Historians say that Mileva was nothing more than a sounding board and a secretary to Albert. Mileva never claimed any ownership or serious input into Alberts work. Hans Albert never claimed that. But after Hans Albert's death his wife Elizabeth surfaced trying to secure and preserve Einstein family papers, she met several times with the Serbian Nationalist Dord Krstic in a trip to Europe, and Dord began promoting the idea that Mileva had somehow played a crucial role in Albert's work, in spite of their being nothing to show that. Eventually, Krstic published a book titled: "Mileva & Albert Einstein: Their Love and Scientific Collaboration" - private publication. I know people who worked with Hans Albert's wife closely and have discussed this whole issue with them. I have spoken with Krstic several times. Dord sent me a copy of his book to review, but I declined. I have even spoken with people who knew Erwin Freundlich well but there is nothing has ever surfaced to substantiate Krstic's claims in behalf of Mileva Maric. What does exist is a deep family history for both Albert and Mileva which includes the time of their marraige and particulars of that. Albert was always very loyal and concerned over Mileva's needs, and the same for his children. Albert and his son Hans grew tobe very close. Hans for example was a very well adjusted indivdual with a marvelous long life, both professionally and personally. The records at the Institute show that Mileva was never on Albert or Grossman's same level, even remotely. Her mathematical skills were weak even for the program in medicine at the time. The program in physics was even more demanding, mathematically. She wore out persuing a medical career as her father had requested, she had just switched to a physics course trying to find some niche for herself as an instructor when Albert came on the scene. She was tired from the pressure from her father, from the arduous path she had traveled just to get to the Institute, tired of the academic strains, and she had a congenital condition and was crippled which was physically straining. Mileva's father thought she was un-marraigable so had pushed her to find some profession where she could support herself. Meeting Albert changed all of that. Albert had several very serious arguements with her father on trips they took back to meet Mileva's family. Mileva's father threw Albert out of the house on one of these ocassions! It took time to mend fences with the father. There is no question that Albert cared about Mileva, and they had a number of very rewarding years togther, to their mutual benefit at the time.

You have me confused with Harry Hopkins. I havent said anything about that topic ... Karen Moskovitz? Karen who? PUT ON YOUR GLASSES PRES. O'BLEVINS. nighty nite, dont let the bed bugs bite.

And Blevins studied it all at Wikipedia in .... 1792! Blevins has justestablished himself as an "ole timer" long involved and friend of the FBI since, the first one celled bacterium (named Fred)! George Washington MOVE OVER! RobertMBlevins ..... has arrived.

I do! How old were you in 1972? About age 11 give or take? So, you've been following the FBI and McCoy since 1972? Since age 11 ? Tell the truth. Somewhat older. How much exactly is impolite to ask, but if you had read Blast, you would know I was a soph at Sumner High at the time of the hijacking. And it's not how long you've been following the case that is most important. It's what you've learned along the way. So as a Sophomore in HS you began studying the FBI and DB Cooper case, like Mileva Maric studied calculus and helped her husband re-write his notes? Blevins, you should have become a Swiss Patent officer/clerk!

before finally being killed by FBI agents in Virginia Beach. * where Duane and Jo would move later - Duaner driving Jo by McCoy's house. Ooooooooops. Jo says Duaner felt sohhh sorri that "he" Duane had caused McCoy to be killed; McCoy copying Duane/Cooper! Otherwise McCoy would have gone on to find the cure for polio and diabetes (and the Cooper Curse). Gag me with a silver buffalo.

To tell you the truth, when the FBI first went with the McCoy thing, I thought they could be right. He looked like the sketch. He had experience. Then it all went away. *Question Everything* I do! How old were you in 1972? About age 11 give or take? So, you've been following the FBI and McCoy since 1972? Since age 11 ? Tell the truth.

"We already know"??? Come on Jerry, you don't "know", you can only theorize. Just like Cooper making it out alive is only a theory, so is the theory that he died. If you "know", then do what you ask Jo, Blevins, Cook, Smith, et al to do. Prove it. Show us the bones, the rest of the money, the chutes, the briefcase, the clothes, the sunglasses, the positive id to a person that disappeared in 1971, anything? At the very least, proponents of the live theory have shown that it can be done. I'm assuming that the "We" you refer to is you and the FBI. So check out Wilson's prints and DNA and either rule him in or out. If the "we" you refer to is the FBI,, are you an official spokesperson or employed by the FBI? If the "we" you refer to is not you and the FBI, who is it? Again, so check out Wilson's prints and DNA and either rule him in or out. I assume that this is the test that needs to be passed. Again, show the end result and then you can be crowned Mr. I-told-you-so. I'll even make a glittery sash. Til then - just conjecture. Other than general physical and the fact that he disappeared in 1971, what else is in the profile that you refer to? Please be specific. And, other than general physical and the fact that he disappeared in 1971, how does your suspect fit the profile that you refer to? Please be specific. I know what the FBI has posted as a profile, I would be interested in Jerry's response as to the profile he has in mind. I appreciate your confidence in your instincts, Jerry. but when you use absolutes and insider talk like "we know", you oughta be willing to back it up with more than closed-minded adherence to a premise that he couldn't have made it because.... (insert weather conditions, ground conditions, mysteries of the door, the chutes, the pull, the shoes, lack of experience, etc. etc. etc.) This premise has shown to be inconclusive at the least and, at best, shown to be false by accounts from real jumpers here who have made or know others who have made similar jumps. Lived through it or died - as far as what's out there now - it's all conjecture at this point. So if you/we "know" something different, spill it.

Its a little like genetics, isn't it. Skips a generation, sometimes two. All depends on the type of defect. (not even the severity of the defect; just the presentation clock). Sooner or later it will surface. Familial. Children usually wind up paying for the crimes of their parents (by committing a crime). Its a fair bet Cooper's father or grandfather were known criminals, if he wasn't until his crime. JT wanted to know who Cooper was. It always takes several generations to purge a problem. BTW there are a lot of stats on this in spite of the fact JT hates stats.

Jerry.. give it up... even the copy cat dudes survived... not to mention thousands of US Airmen... and thousands of airmen from other countries in conditions FAR FAR worse. Then again.. I guess if you could not do that jump.. no one else could right??? You always bring things down to bedrock. True excellence imho. Where is Orange?

I don't have to explain why this is important. It's self-evident. Nothing here is self-evident. Nothing. Why? Its simple. Everyone has an agenda. And credentials galore! Will it be a symposium or the Tower of Babel? Who will be charge? Charlie Manson? Or Mata Hari?