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Secondly, IF he was on some other part of this track (location be damned) he or the FO certainly would have filed a PIREP for those airframes less fortunate than theirs (like Convairs) so they can be forewarned about an 80 knot gust (or whatever). Did he/they? An FAA filing has always been part of the story since I first heard it. Frankly, its always been my hope Robert99 would dig the FAA filing up, somehow, given his connections. When I learned Robert99 actually had obtained PDX/FAA weather data I wondered if he had also managed to find the Bohan filing, but was holding that in reserve for a special purpose ? Evidently not. I have always wished someone could find that old filing ... I and others have asked a lot of people about it. I also wondered if Snowmman had found it, but evidently not.

I personally do not know, Im not a pilot, but will pass this on - The people I work with arent here and dont read this forum - Crickets will sing will in any event, I think.

No, the above was not a caveat. The worst weather I can imagine based on the data I've seen would be a brief period of heavy rain or wind. There are things other than the actual weather that could explain at least some anecdotal reports. Of that data I've examined about the weather on hijack night, I have found nothing that supports the idea that there was any severe weather. I am still looking at data trying to find any clue that would indicate severe weather. Yes. I'm trying to be thorough and give the question my best shot. If I get some more data, I'll look at it too (even anecdotes). I think we are traveling the same path having the same thoughts. Thanks.

So, what do we have going in the skies over SW WA on 11.24.71? Really weird weather? Anomalies that sneak past the usual meteorlogical record keeping? Blips in perceptions? Actual proof of the Many Worlds Theory of Physical Reality? Other poorly understood fluctuations in the Quantum Flux or just regional effects of stuff from the boys at MKULTRA? I snipped mine above. My inclination is to believe the data first. That is my training speaking. My instincts tell me something else is also going on, that explains the anomolies. This has been my position all along, in spite of what others say or think. Firstly, I rarely work alone, and am not working alone in this case either. That will become apparent as time goes on -

Georger, it is time for you to grow up. You are certainly not in a position to call other people names. Blevins has got you pegged. Or the reverse. Why is it your problem, Nicholson? What's your personal investment in Blevins' petards, and why ? You loaned him money or something? How global is this? Does it involve my cows ?

Is the above a caveat, or what? Almost every post you have made on this subject has included what I am taking as 'a hedge'. Are you saying you see no basis in the data for severe weather in the hijack corridor, but . . . but what? What is it you are saying, and why? Lets get that solved first before moving ahead ... My guess is, you are just trying to be thorough. And that's all this is? If there is something more involved I wish you would say so and close the window for guessing/conjecture. Only you know what your goals are here. Im just a follower in this. Well, a follower interested in the history involved. In spite of attacks against me, Im still keeping an open mind and I have strong reasons-in-fact for doing that. Anyway, that's my reasons in a nutshell. Here are a few anecdotal examples, in case this has been lost in the mix of personal agendas here - this is what was originally at stake...: _ "A meteorologist has told me that the periods between fronts in this area often produce reversal systems for a short period. I believe that is what Bohan was experiencing. And those reverses can be nasty." (researcher) _ "Bohan's fellow pilots were interviewed. He was thorough and he knew the PDX glide-slope like the back of his hand. It was his regular run. And he flew the 727 for Continental. If he was landing at PDX with strong winds from 160-66, he would have been using runway 100 coming in from the west... (another researcher) _ "But Rat did see some lights from the his position on the right, which means he could be seeing either Portland or Vancouver coming into view. That is what he said in his interviews with me ..." (researcher) _ "Rat reported icing and turbulence .... he described the flight as 'rough at times' saying he and Scott 'had their hands full through the Washington part of the flight' ..." (researcher) _ "Rataczak told me that there was some turbulence earlier in the flight..............and some icing. But as the plane neared Vancouver/Portland the clouds were broken." (researcher) _ " acquired weather data from NOAA, NWS, PDX airport, Salem, OR balloon releases...........and had experts examine all of them. Also, I inteviewed Bohan's fellow pilots and Bohan's daughter. They told me that you could take Bohan's word to the bank...............everytime. What I could not obtain were flight records into PDX from 1971. That would have helped ... " (former researcher) _ "“The weather had been so terrible—rain, fog, snow—that agents and local law enforcement could not search the flight path on foot.” (Geoffrey Gray, author of Skyjack: The Hunt for D. B. Cooper") _ "The weather the night of DB Cooper's jump was "horrible" - wet, rainy and cold, and very windy. " (Dona Elliott, proprietress of the Ariel Tavern) _ "At one point, a rain-lashed official in a trenchcoat walked up to the door of the plane. He was from the Federal Aviation Administration, but he was very wet. He requested permission to board, apparently an attempt to reason with the skyjacker. " (FBI agent interview & published statement) _ "... we had two flights come in that day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon around 4:00pm. The one in the AM encountered rain and a little turbulence but the one at 4:00pm radioed and said \ he was in severe turbulence and hard rain, he almost turned around and went back, but he came in and landed. He was very glad to be on the ground and his face said it all .... that was at 4:00 oclock. I dont remember any more storm that day and I finally went home about midnight, but we did listen to some of the hijacking chatter that evening" (small airport manager in the corridor) _ “the hijacking occurred two days before the heavy clouds cleared enough to permit a helicopter search of the lava foothills and farmlands.” Despite their efforts, searchers found nothing “and heavy snows soon sealed the woods off.” (The June 16, 1972, issue of Life magazine)

Thanks for coming to Dropzone to share your knowledge and experience, with the small select population here! Its like having Jack Lalanne Power Juicer come to school, to show us his muscles. Now every boy wants muscles, and some of the girls want muscles of their own! It's a nobel work you do in behalf of Humanity, all from Adventure Books, in Seattle of course. Do you give courses for the FBI, the government, and the military? Courses for grandmothers and women's club? Is 377 going to take your course?

Bruce is only referencing recet headlines which have used 40, 50, 60, and more years for comparison. So, you can pull in your spurs and stop being a prick! Spare the horse ____________________. You might need a ride some day -

Nice!! Will digest this this evening and post something .. I guess its no secret that Im loving this. More will come. But this is very nice work Hominid. Maybe I will post an animated gif or two tonight that might help a little, I spoke about earlier; will have to find a size that fits here. later tonight.

I also hope Sluggo is okay. Been checking lately, and I think he's still with the living, but for some reason he hasn't been around. He has a Yahoo site, a regular website, and a blog. No new entries by him in a while. We've had our differences in the past, but I respect what he has done for the Cooper case. He still has the best site about it and tries to keep out the non-facts. (*salute*) Guess you were just *misunderstood*. Guess you are *born again*. Oh! and thanks for all the good updated info on Sluggo, his website, NASA, ESA, the founding of Western Civilisation, and all the rest, not to forget, whatever comes next... Sluggo owes you! There is never a dull hypocracy with you around. You make the rest of us look like damned fools!

https://sites.google.com/site/navilluspress/navillus-press/novels-mysteries/the-case-of-d-b-cooper-s-parachute Here is another author with his revelations....to be released this Summer 2012. "A novel". Read the label. "No revelations", just suckers. Who dont read labels.

Full moon is two weeks out. Go back to sleep. Or, get out your Amana, Kelvinator, and Sears Service & Repair manuals ... and we can discuss "wing nuts" and no.6 pan head phillips screws ? Got any belts for a 1958 Philco drier left? Surely in some box in your garage or basement? Tell BIG MAC hello? How's your type II diabetes? Admiral-General-Capt Amerika, Knoss-the-boss ? It isnt about Cooper. ITS ABOUT YOU! THATS WHY YOU ARE HERE.

Gee, that was my wish. I thought that if you could swallow the KC fable you might have some fun with a REAL biography that could actually be proven with honest FACTS! You know, do something constructive other than beat that poor dead nag for the Crew. This sounds like an admission that your story is fake, or most of it. The part about ding LSD and prison is probably true. The part that the records of the Program are all destroyed is however, not true. FOIA will allow you to see your not listed in them. Matt Ar yous a washing machine salesman & repair guy too, liek B'noss. ? Why is this load taking so long to finish? Should we send Tom Kaye in to help? Or Field Marshall-Admiral-Captain-Amerika, Blevins? You're making as much sense as BK now. Matt which BK? The new toppers? Or the old char broiled Whopper? Its all been down-sized and prices raised, of course. The BK Big Fish is now micro- sized and the price raised. Arby's currently has two fer five. Better go there... then go to your next refrigerator repair. Did you bring your ohm meter, rubber boots, and yumpper cables, eh? Call Knoss for correct settings on dat thermonstat - he's got the manuals in his shop. U-bettcha! Oh! BTW! Git that frig going quick! Call Knoss for his 30 years plus experience in this field. Then you can crawl inside the frig and wait the massive solar storm headed our way, out. MAC says its the worst in six plus years. Blevins and Gayla can clean up the mess. For a 12% surcharge and three BK mini-mac coupons. U-bettcha. ps(fine print) coded in this message is a message. I'll bet you cant figure it out!

Gee, that was my wish. I thought that if you could swallow the KC fable you might have some fun with a REAL biography that could actually be proven with honest FACTS! You know, do something constructive other than beat that poor dead nag for the Crew. This sounds like an admission that your story is fake, or most of it. The part about ding LSD and prison is probably true. The part that the records of the Program are all destroyed is however, not true. FOIA will allow you to see your not listed in them. Matt Ar yous a washing machine salesman & repair guy too, liek B'noss. ? Why is this load taking so long to finish? Should we send Tom Kaye in to help? Or Field Marshall-Admiral-Captain-Amerika, Blevins?

and the relevance to the DB Cooper case is what ? why dont you take your stuff back to the CNN Belief blog! Looks like you & Gayla were busy there ! http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/01/secret-life- of-a-d-b-cooper-hijacking-witness-includes- disappearing-to-a-nunnery/

superb. more will follow later. Thanks.

What case will people be discussing 40 years from now? The DB Coper case.

Okay, I know you "guys" do not want to hear the long road to Tahoe But, you will do it anyway. Just cant help yourself. Why not just one! Lets have TEN! Where's Blevins most recent tale of heroism? PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM. Cooperlites all. The public, be damned. Weber uber alles! Now there's a pretty Cooperlite!

we could get out of this rut and start a new topic.....where is Marla and her two uncles born 30 days apart? Joe Paterno did not die - yet. "In this day and age, getting it first often conflicts with getting it right, but our intention was never to fall into that chasm. All I can do now is promise that in the future, we will exercise caution, restraint, and humility." Another Cooperlite placed in its proper poop-box. Meanwhile, the real Cooper case, diverted for personal privelege & commercialism, waits . . . as new theories surpassing Weber, Blevins, and Marla, are being formulated, by new players. Welcome!

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that Squeaky’s gun was in fact loaded and McCoy paid $5 for the ride home. That’s all. Facts never stopped a Cooperlite (aka Tyrannosaur Poop) from making a cone head (aka point). Geoff Gray makes that point, in his official Cooperlite with handles on it. Example/fact: ShotterMG only has 46 posts but has made some very valuable contributions to the Dropzone thread titled: ASSHOLES. To each his own Cooperlite. Vestile Virgins here excluded, of course!

Sorry Matt. You are not qualified. Can't trust you with liable information. I'm sure you understand. You need credentials, like an authorization from Bill Rataczak for me to release the documents. I understand he has said no comment. BS, I did not ask for that, I asked for your MEMORY of the events. Other wise it is just LSD induced lies. You now what LSD is, right? Matt MK Ultra was discontinued prior to 1968, but the mind control program continued to be recognized by that title. New name was Bluebird or Artichoke and those programs did not incorporate the experimental drug scenerio. Where do you get off making all these wild conclusions? And you want me to trust you with my information? Are you nuts? Your intentions are clearly not reputable. You are trolling for a flame under directions. Give it up. You are not good at this game. I make conclusions based on your information if they are wrong it is because of, your information. I am no more "nuts" than you. (some are about to call me insane, I think) My intentions are to find out the truth, if you think that is not reputable, I am sorry. I troll for no one, I serve no master in this "game", so little do I serve any one in this "game", that, I am not playing a "game". I think your "story", is just that a, "story". Made up as a fiction based on things you have read or heard about. Why? I don't know, maybe a way to justify your past? Matt at least you are consistent - have a beer & relax!

So stop haggling! I have unsubscribed from Sluggo's Yahoo group because he wont let me post there, for some reason. So now I cant even read that group, and frankly dont care any more. Frankly this shit bores the hell out of me! Get a life! [ps: Seattle office says currently about 90-120,000 people in the Seattle area wthout power due to the storm. Blevins in hospital with self inflicted wounds dropping that table to his foot ]

You call that snow! ? Your snow has only started. Better look at a forcast, Moutain Man. Here's the road from my place last winter. People were snowed in for days here last winter - By the look of your photo you had better hike overe to Wendy's with a sleeping bag and plan to stay a month. We will miss you.

Georger, Have you noticed that your last post prior to this one has also disappeared? And it wasn't "deleted". Without making any accusations, how long did it take you to learn how to do that? I hate to burst your bubble but I deleted it. I should just leave you sit here imagining ... When was the last time you were to a doctor? Sometimes when you delete an old post it leaves a space for a time, with a caption "post deleted by..."; if you delete a fresh post it usually vanishes without any trace or marker. Ask Quade. Dont take my word for anything! So you really dont know 'everything'.

Jo is right. Things are going POOF here. I just had a reply, plus the original post to which I was replying, disappear. Is someone hacking into this thread and playing games with the posts? Its all in your mind. Do you know a "poof" from a "poof"? On a scale of one to 10 Trillion, which number of poof was yours? Do you understand that you are now saying that the NWS and FAA weather data for November 24, 1971 is not real but poofery?