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15k pixels? 15k by what? Yours is a 2d image. you dont have a clue what you are saying here. You and Blevins should take a community college course together ... taught by Wretched Fossil and MIN !

Hey Hollywood: here are the original links - http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA10216 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1367/2 P247720343EFFAWCCP2415L7M1.HTML Being the expert on NASA imaging you are, tell your audience what the scale of the photo artifact is? Where are the transmission frame split(s)?

We can only post 300 parsecs here at Dropzone. Did I not say above, quote: "Here is a "C R O P" from the latest hi-res images K sent out tonight. You're the expert. You tell me what I said and meant!

I may pick up those images from the Citizen Sleuth guys. But those are for a website. Undoubtably the originals are much higher resolution and better to work with. I love NASA. They do everything they do on less than $20 billion a year. How much is that? Well, during the Iraq War it would fund that conflict for about a week. If the current yearly DOD budget were split into 365 equal daily payments, NASA would have to exist each year on five to six days' worth. Hmm...

Let me explain to everyone - this has become extremely conplicatd and convoluted. Kaye apparantly will not come forward and simply present photo evidence, but is sending emails and photos out behind the scenes, those people are communictaing with me and sending me the same photos over and over again. Its going nowhere. Tom is contending (behind the scenes) this! Tom is contending what I am seeing as numerals are in fact mirror images of the wove in the fabric of the tie, reflected back from the smooth inside surface of the tie clasp. Tom apparently says he has photos which show no numerals and a smooth unblemished surface ... but he so far has not produced any of those photos! He keeps sending out the same old photo we already have, over and over again. Now Blevins has entered the picture with his miracle software which he says he processes NASA 100mb photos with - yippeekaiyo! That is all I know. (or care to know)

Funny! The photo is on Tom's webpage under TIE. I dont have to send you anything. By all means, do you NASA thingie. Maybe before youdo it you should speak to Tom to know exactly what Tom is contending ? Or go blind, and we will count this as a blind study.

That first letter might just be a "J". See attached. I thought that a while back and said, oh crap JCPenny's as I said before it looks very good, but I am suspect about the location, let's hope you are right! If those symbols are stamped on that clasp Tom should know? If Tom doesnt confirm or deny I will ask a few others tomorrow - Tom's original photo has very good pixel resolution. I dont think I am dreaming this, at least I hope not. Look also at how rough that casting is. That's not Tiffany but a mass producted product. Why would there even be a code on that thing? he sent me the photo's, don't know if they are any better. will check in later -

That first letter might just be a "J". See attached. I thought that a while back and said, oh crap JCPenny's as I said before it looks very good, but I am suspect about the location, let's hope you are right! If those symbols are stamped on that clasp Tom should know? If Tom doesnt confirm or deny I will ask a few others tomorrow - Tom's original photo has very good pixel resolution. I dont think I am dreaming this, at least I hope not. Look also at how rough that casting is. That's not Tiffany but a mass producted product. Why would there even be a code on that thing?

Plated jewelry That first letter might just be a "J". See attached. Maybe do a search for obsolete Pennys product codes?

Georger, georgie if I looked REAL hard I could get Kress out of that - a company Duane's wife worked for in several locations. But, it is not numbers. Do you realize the size of the surface you are taking about and if it was stamped with any kind of marking it would be smooth and obvious. You guys are looking for messages in the clouds. Speaking of which I did see today - very briefly an ancient crucifix upside down in the clouds. The clouds around a very blue sky formed this image - one of those moments you wish you had a camera in hand. Jo. Stop being Jo! Funny.

First two digits read: "10(slash) . . ." You had previously said all real gold must be registered? Maybe that's the registration number? I dont know - just work here - bastards wont even pay me! . BTW you do good work! Seems to me those numbers would match up with some manufacturer ... in style, letter type, code , etc. Quantico probably has 10000 Gigs on tie clasps alone? Plated jewelry does not have to be stamped because there is little gold percentage on it, many companies do stamp them plated (10 ktp or 10kt gf gold filled) the problems I see is the location of the stamp and possibly light or flash disruption, you can see the light or flash on the top of the tie where the piece lines up with the tie, again only a hunch. If indeed numbers are there, yes I could almost say without a doubt that someone would remember the stamp! I spoke with Tom yesterday (PM wise) I think I asked him if any marks were on it, I'll check. right back at ya, on good work on your end as well I only asked Tom if a gold test was done on it, nothing about markings....way ta go Dave Here. Two lines of symbols. Second line obscured by tie. Top row first symbol is a "period" followed by a "1" followed by a slashed-0, followed by a symbol (doesnt look like a numeral of letter ??? Hominid as good eyes and might read more. These are not light reflections, flash reflections, but actual symbols stamped into the artifact ... it looks very convincing, but it seems they would have wrote this into the clip description instead of Gold in color? let's hope we can get confirmation on this I'm going on Ebay and buying this sucker My feeling is Pennys is going to be a dead end, maybe even to the FBI. All their old buying records are long gone, I am told. It would be nice if the clasp could be linked to Pennys. There would have been a time when invoicing numbers would have tracked that clasp from maker to an individual Pennys store, if that is where Cooper got it. The clasp is a piece of hard evidence with a history. (no isotopic analysis needed here!)

One can make anything of a shadow or mirrored reflection (which is what I think it is). If I wanted to force this I could say I see a F and R and K - get my point? They are the mirrored reflections created with the light of the camera on the medal in the shadow of the tie.

First two digits read: "10(slash) . . ." You had previously said all real gold must be registered? Maybe that's the registration number? I dont know - just work here - bastards wont even pay me! . BTW you do good work! Seems to me those numbers would match up with some manufacturer ... in style, letter type, code , etc. Quantico probably has 10000 Gigs on tie clasps alone? Plated jewelry does not have to be stamped because there is little gold percentage on it, many companies do stamp them plated (10 ktp or 10kt gf gold filled) the problems I see is the location of the stamp and possibly light or flash disruption, you can see the light or flash on the top of the tie where the piece lines up with the tie, again only a hunch. If indeed numbers are there, yes I could almost say without a doubt that someone would remember the stamp! I spoke with Tom yesterday (PM wise) I think I asked him if any marks were on it, I'll check. right back at ya, on good work on your end as well I only asked Tom if a gold test was done on it, nothing about markings....way ta go Dave Here. Two lines of symbols. Second line obscured by tie. Top row first symbol is a "period" followed by a "1" followed by a slashed-0, followed by a symbol (doesnt look like a numeral of letter ??? Hominid as good eyes and might read more. These are not light reflections, flash reflections, but actual symbols stamped into the artifact ...

We could vote. How many see numbers? How many don't? Majority rules. Jo, take it from methese ARE NUMBERS and SYMBOLS! Let me try for a better bigger photo. I will add it here if and when I get a better phot -

The Titanium - Did Georger ever check out the Bolt and Nut Company Duane Weber worked for in Atlanta, Ga. prior to the skyjacking? No. Because I am only interested in meteorites from the next galaxy over - sorry. Our shelves are full of the other common stuff unsold. sorry Farm this out to Blevins.

others! First two digits read: "10(slash) . . ." You had previously said all real gold must be registered? Maybe that's the registration number? I dont know - just work here - bastards wont even pay me! BTW you do good work! Seems to me those numbers would match up with some manufacturer ... in style, letter type, code , etc. Quantico probably has 10000 Gigs on tie clasps alone?

Im not suggesting Towncraft made/supllied the tie clasp to Penny's, only that Penny's may have sold this tie clasp supplied by some other middle man. Cooper may have obtained the tie and the clasp from the same source, at the same time. Is it correct your findings show the clasp is not 18k gold and no identifying markings on the FBI's clasp? What then are the numbers on the clasp about? I think you misunderstood me Georger, I was just showing what I found out about Penny's so far, that's why I mentioned Towncraft and Weiss, as for Cooper's piece, It is documented as Gold in color, there is no way to check the piece unless you have it in your hands, I am going to look again at your photo's but I think maybe that is the reflection of the material on the clip, I am not sure but, it appears that way? possibly Tom has this answer? I am hoping as well that Cooper went on a shopping spree at Penny's, has anyone looked at there rain gear? That's the bad thing about this clip, it was made in several different metals. Tom did PM me saying he thought it was plated, but I am going by the what I read about the piece, this is why in the video I say, it appears to not be plated or Gold filled. If numbers are indeed on the piece, we can trace it!! Keep in mind that this clip is very small, the width would be about 3/16 to 1/4 so putting a stamp in it would be a task! most have the stamp or mark on the back side of the clip "visible" but not while wearing it. You think I made this up? Have a look and read the numbers for yourself! Maybe Tom will comment ? The photos are of the clasp on the Cooper tie at FBI HQ. Guess Tom or Carol did the photog.. all I did was enlarge and filter a small portion of Tom's original photography. Neither Tom or Carol even comment there are numbers on the clasp! Ether this is classified with them or they are blind?

I thought Tom and Carol found a number of agents (chemical) on the tie which match "cosmetics" from the FBI matching software they were allowed to use? Indicates he was in close contact with cosmetic either on his person or from the woman he spent the night with before - A large search of prostitutes in the area came up "ubiquitous"! Go to Toms website. See that element wheel? Start matching - - - Blevins, I thought you knew everything ? [AirT edit count exceeded - must stop of this topic \ for tonight.]

I found that Towncraft made some jewelry but don't know if they had that clip, Penny's bought Jewelry from Weiss among others I'm sure, ] Im not suggesting Towncraft made/supllied the tie clasp to Penny's, only that Penny's may have sold this tie clasp supplied by some other middle man. Cooper may have obtained the tie and the clasp from the same source, at the same time. Is it correct your findings show the clasp is not 18k gold and no identifying markings on the FBI's clasp? What then are the numbers on the clasp about?

Stupid question. If the tie came from Penny's did Penny's also sell these tie clasps, made by who? Have you talked to Penny's (Dallas) ?

I'm actually the Happiest Guy on the Planet right now. We're releasing Katie Onus' book next week. She's the 14-year-old author of the novel Island of the Wolves, which I had the supreme pleasure of editing, and creating a cover for personally. You couldn't piss me off this week if you tried. Come on, you didn't really believe Cooper was my entire life, did you? No. I'm not tracing numbers on the Cooper Loot, or doing this or that. Frankly, I just don't care. His conclusion that the money arrived at Tena Bar by 'non-natural means' could say that Kaye doesn't think the money floated down or was dredged there. That's my take on it, anyway. Hello...is there anybody IN there...the guy has a website. He answers polite questions. Ever thought about just going to the source?

Robert, We already looked into this. The bills in each bundle had random numbers so they would not look marked. The numbers were recorded before hand on microfilm. The published list is not in the original order but was reorganized into sequential numbers making it easier to look up a number. Carol A. searched in vain for the original list but not even the FBI has it. There is no way to tell if the bills found on Tena were from the same original bundles or not. Tom Hell Tom. Give Blevins something to do! You didnt have to solve this for them. ... on the other hand . . .

Its Kaye-speak for "hell I dont know!" Sounds professionally . . . ambivalent pending further revelations from, the gods.

That indeed would give Blevins something to do! And to write about, for the next year! BTB, I am not on Blevin's back. The stupendously ignorant arrogant Blevins is on his own back ... actually on his last leg and his ass ... and that is a fact, Jack.

You're kidding, right? I gave you the link to the entire story in the Utah Standard Examiner. Says right in the article that GALEN COOK heard about Janet from Tosaw's files. Did you even bother to read the article? So what part exactly did I get wrong? Yea, Im kidding. Thanks for the link. I didnt k'no. Have a nice dream-thingie, Blevins-thingie.