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Dont waste your time or pay any attention to Blevins - nothing he said applies here, in any event. Blevins is just a crank and an imposter. Probably bent on distracting and destorying this thrad if he can. Several people who met Blevins at Ariel say he was 'very strange' and socially inept. He seems to feed off controversy and upsetting people, and he likes people responding to him upset. I guess it gives him some sense of importance and belonging. Depraved.

Really? I'd bet against it. If its real post the court and case number. Everyone threatens litigation here but no nobody sues. So why threaten? What's the point? 378 Did NOT say I had one in progression! What I heard was hearsay - maybe members of a supposed suspect or one of the crew? You think? Certain individual are tired of being harassed. As an insider (intruder) in the Cooperphelia, what colour was Cooper's tongue?

here. Now that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!! note the spherical shape in #3 bottom. do the same on the pants and see what happens? the tie is straight, so the whole round part of the clip would have to be "hooked" to the edge of the jacket, this would expose the whole round part of the clip, we do not see that we now have the clip, so I could try to reproduce the shot holy crap 3 am, gotta hit the sack later - see my last photo then hit the hay - Im outta here too.

here. Now that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!! heres the cooper clasp - note the flat top surface - distinctive shape on the actual tie (nothing in common with Weber's photo).

here. Now that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!! note the spherical shape in #3 bottom.

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agree - your pics are definitive - plus its round like a pearl as shown in your photos 2 & 3, not wide like the cooper clasp inlay. plus its on the midline of the tie (pretty much) just where a tac would be vs a clasp. Does not look like the cooper clasp at all, it stands up too high and is spherical in shape vs. flat. heres your photo enlarged to show more depth of field - you can almost see the shadow of it, it stands up so high .. ? good work.

and the initials db cooper are very evident! twice!! I would have to disagree, I looked at this a while back and it seems to bleed over into the coat (see photo) here is the clip I got, video is bad, but done quick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFR_Gyk8AI definately appears to have dimension to it - like a pearl - stands up off the tie (as you note). attached... no clasp at all? its right in the midline of the tie like a tie tac .. ?

and the initials db cooper are very evident! twice!!

You got it - Pinochio all the way. This is exactly what he did with each and ever contact I made with him and why I found it necessary to feed DELIBERATE lies to him in order find if there was one fragment of truth in the story he told. As with Pinochio - his nose grew longer with each lie, but in KB's case his story evolved with his supposed recall. He was adamant he had never heard of Tommy Gunn when I put the name infront of him (bear in mind I knew who Tommy Gunn was) and then a few months later his main character supposedly used this name. Guess he decided not to use the name Tony Wong - wrong race! Well, Knoss' story is a detailed conspiracy theory. Your story is a detailed conspiracy theory. What's the difference? Neither of you can put your stories, or anyone in your stories, "on the plane". Meanwhile the real DB Cooper WAS "on the plane". No question about that! Now if the real DB Cooper were to surface and say to both of you, "your stories are fictions", what would you say to Cooper? Would you say: "YOU ARE NOT COOPER!" ? Because that is exactly what both of you have been saying, for years. Because we have some of Cooper! And the part of Cooper which is real and exists, does not include any part of you, Duane, Knoss, or anyone else you involve in your "stories". This competition between you and Knoss, and between both of you and everyone else none of whom is Cooper, is like the both of you have decided to compete with the Moon saying: "Moon. You are not the Moon! And Tree, you are a Frying Pan! And paper clip, you were once Julius Ceasar". That is literally the nature of your claims. Knoss might as well be claiming he is a tomatoe and you, Jo, claiming you are a rainbow. Prove it! So, address Mr. Cooper personally. Tell him why he is a liar and isnt himself! Its really as simple as that. We have pieces of Cooper and none of him has anything to do with you, Knoss, Duane, duDop, pictures of some kid, rainbows, tomatoes, or any thing or anyone else, living or deceased, which is a part of your stoires. Its a matter of facts versus claims. Neither of you can put yourselves "on the plane along with Cooper"! And if your stories were true you should be able to do precisely that - very easily.

Matt can you break this down into the steps, of what you think would happen? 550 is rated for what breaking force? ~1000lbs? 550 cord is called 550 for a not so obscure reason.... From Wiki AND... the idiocy of "tying" a reserve to the back.... uh.. DOES NOT COMPUTE... No one in the BK fantasy group would have had a clue who would provide the rigs so how do you plan for a skydiving rigger to show up with a bail out rig... and not a skydiving one. Then the stupidity REALLY shows its mettle. 1. It would interfere with the operation of the main...if it is tied onto the top of the bailout rig. 2. If the "main" did open.. it would slam the "reserve" into your neck... probably breaking it. 3. If you did have to use the reserve... I would love to see someone find AND then pull the handle behind their head. makes sense. I guessed the 550 was 550 but thought better to ask. Some force calcs on the net: yank greater than any ~1000ln/si There's a nice calculator if anyone has it at: http://www.pcprg.com/pifcalc_manual.pdf Otherwise: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/mmedia/newtlaws/s d.cfm and: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php? t=216776 I will learn the link underlining here some day.

Looking at the harness, there is no place for this to happen. Plus two strands of 550 cord type parachute shroud is only ~1000lbs for a tensile strength rating. If this was the plan, and these are actual instructions, in the event of a total mal, this would prove to be most likely a fatal plan. Not to mention that the Reserve being tied to the BACK of the harness would start the fatal sequence of events. Matt Matt can you break this down into the steps, of what you think would happen? 550 is rated for what breaking force? ~1000lbs?

In the video of the southeast Asia jumps, if my memory is correct, the stairs did not appear to move as the jumpers came out. To me, this suggests that the stairs were "locked" in a down position. This in turn suggests that the southeast Asia 727 aircraft used stairs that had been specifically modified for those operations. That it, they were not "line" 727 passenger aircraft. its on the list of Q's to ask ... several are working in the background as time permits (its their area of interest) ... at length they will be back ...

Mexico City may have been a ruse? Maybe an effort to link his jaking with all the Cuban hijacking going on? 'I will parachute or go to Mexico City' ? Then he parachutes rather quickly in Washington State which seems to give the lie to wanting to go to Mex Cty or anywhere outside of the continental USA. ?

Where ya been! ? Please come back -

Cooper did not mention Reno as a place he wanted to go. He only agreed to the crew's suggestion of a fuel stop in Reno. And Cooper had no knowledge of any kind on the flight path the airliner used between V-23 and across the mountains to Reno. agree, he said Mexico City. 'cant land in the USA' (paraphrase his original request). Hut's idea above is novel!

See the page on Toms site where Carol measured the lines - its very detailed - she did a spectacular job with that. I forget the numbers, Its near the end at Tom's site; am sure you will find it. .... G.

Who told you this, Blevins? What's the basis for your libel against me? A reliable source. You should know where to go to ask about it. Let me ask you this: Did you reveal information that they didn't want you to? Besides, after the dozens of insults you have posted about me, you have a lot of nerve. You asked for it, now stop whining. I just had a nice conversation with Tom Kaye who says, quote: "What's he talking about - you weret kicked off the team!". So Mr. Blevins, once again. you either are making this up or your source doesnt know what they are talking about. Who is your socalled "reliable source"? You shouldnt be posting information you have no personal knowledge or verification of, in any event. And to quote someone else close to this matter, quote: "Why doesn't Quade kick Blevins off?"

Who told you this, Blevins? What's the basis for your libel against me?

How about Blevin's LIBEL of me!? Something you have some personal knowledge of and yet sit idly by allowing it to happen - pretty self serving? It never ceases to amaze me here how some things just skate by, if your concern really is "get back to some serious Cooper dialogue?" ? The bias is apparent. Wasn't it counsel who said: : "Its all good"! How about some equity for the other side, Judge? Credibility? Truth? Counsel has facts he is not sharing! RobertMBlevins United States Jumps License In sport : : Apr 26, 2012, 12:38 AM Post #33939 of 33955 (144 views) Shortcut Registered: Aug 1, 2010 Posts: 1869 Re: [georger] Aft Stairs and the Boeing test program [In reply to] Can't Post Georger: I'm beginning to understand WHY you got booted off the Citizens' Sleuth team... Gotta get control of those emotions. ??????????????????????????

This could mean a lot of different things, but what it tells me is that the caller wasn't a psycho or a garden-variety nut. Maybe he was concerned about actually hurting someone by attempting to open the door. You could extrapolate that to mean he wanted the money...but not necessarily to kill people or injure them in order to get it. According to Ralph Himmelsbach, he thinks the bomb was a fake, too. Blevins, This could indeed mean a lot of different things. But maybe the Mysterious Caller was mainly concerned with how opening the stairs would affect HIM. And remember that Cooper wanted to take off with the stairs opened and that there were only two people in the cabin at that time. .... well, its obvious, that can only be Geestman! Maybe Blevins will claim Geestman was fired/booted off some Citizen Sleuth Team Thingy, tooey? Geestman needs to get his emotions under control?

That Blevins is the second or third time you have published that falsehood, pulling my chain? You dont have the facts, know the facts, and you are the last person on Earth that ever will ... and no point asking Tom Kaye - he doesnt know either! I have told you before when you made this lie up to read the thread, something you canot afford to do! So keep jerking people's chains. Its all you have. BTW: it was you brought the Warren Commission up, not me or anyone else. I guess you were pulling everyone's chain about that too! Can you do ANYTHING but try at pulling people's chains? Maybe its your chain that's being pulled?

By the way...from a CBS News poll: Well, I guess this means (according to your analysis) that 3/4 of Americans are 'conspiracy nuts'. Doesn't matter. The public also believes in ghosts, ufo's, and the ressurection, while knowing full well the financial and housing crisis will now not end in their lifetimes, and the chance of their children living in poverty is better than 1 in 2 ! But fertile territory for a flimflam man peddling Credibility & Truth. The Chief Counsel of the Warren Commission was a resident of Des Moines, Iowa who gave numerous interviews after the fact. There have been numerous forensic studies on the JFK Assassination with numerous documentaries including a Nova series. Sorry you missed out watching Oliver Stone and writing pulp fiction. Keep up the good work Rev Brother Blevins.

By Warren Report I assume you are talking about the Warren Report on the JFK assassination? Correct? Are you now claiming the the JFK Warren Report is wrong, flawed, a conspiracy? What exactly are you claiming? No. I was talking about the Warren report about whether Gilligan was the REAL cause of the shipwreck of the SS Minnow. Where have you been? There are at least a dozen books that question the results of the Warren report and the Kennedy assassination. My personal opinion? Well, I liked the movie JFK and thought maybe Oliver Stone got it right. But that's just an opinion. So, after all this time more than a year, you admit to being a Conspiracy Nut, and nothing more. Now we know WHO YOU ARE! And I shouldnt be surprised. It does seem everything youve done since surfacing in the Cooper matrix, has been conspiracy based. If not one conspiracy, then antoher ... with buzz words CREDIBILITY and TRUTH key to your whole operational style, and claims of people lying etc. Well thats just fine. At least its now in the open and we know. Thanks for the information!

If people went by your philosophy, Nixon would have served out his entire term and everyone would still believe the Warren Report was completely accurate. By Warren Report I assume you are talking about the Warren Report on the JFK assassination? Correct? Are you now claiming the the JFK Warren Report is wrong, flawed, a conspiracy? What exactly are you claiming?