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Had he not have told me "I'm Dan Cooper" - I would never have known about his extensive criminal background. I wish with all of my heart and soul he had taken his secret to the grave with him. It is time to take him to WA - and leave him where his memories made him smile... Had he not had a mother and a father, he probably would have been a "chicken", or a weed.

Dont look for the FBI to protect you, against yourself. Try Medicade Managers.

Not likely. Those vintage radar guns were X band, low power and more importantly transmitted nothing until the trigger was pulled which was done when aiming at a car. McCoy's jump was pretty amazing. Despite radio tracking devices hidden in his gear he jumped, landed safely, evaded a manhunt and recovered ALL of his loot. 377 not all - he spent about 37$ the organs most used are usually the first to go - the brain, the mouth, and that territory marking device between the legs ... just to inform some here of what they can expect! The signs of dementia are evident. Loss of control = urge to control.

I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question. Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results. soh? more distractions/puffery? what happened to your much advertised "Interview with Rataczk"? I wouldn't post that interview at Dropzone if my life depended on it. You want that interview? Go look for it. You've come down hard on everything I've posted...and NOW you ask for something from ME? Forget it. Then why ask in the first place? Not that it's any of your business, but I'm not publishing it until November. You can probably figure out why. Here's the deal with you: You toss out insults just because I posted a link to a 1996 San Francisco Chronicle article. Has nothing to do with any book, nothing to do with Kenny Christiansen. And yet...you couldn't resist the urge to toss out another cheap insult. This proves to me that you no longer have any credibility, or any objectivity regarding the Cooper case. So...your opinion means absolutely ZIP to me. I mean less-than-zero, I'd-rather-read-Bob-Knoss type of ZIP. Let me clue you into the REAL world: Better than 80% of the emails and letters we receive now say we *might* be onto something with Christiansen. Well, that's probably because some people saw things you chose to ignore. What things? Evidence, and the total body of it doesn't prove KC was the guy, but it does make him worth a look. You were too busy making comments after the Symposium about how nice Marla looked to even notice... I WAS wondering if you support the possibility that she could be right. Before you answer, you should know that her would-be publisher dumped her, and none of her family members would back her story. You were right about one thing, though. She has a nice-looking derriere. Too bad the story didn't look as good. You know, there's a reason why this case was never solved, probably many reasons. But one of them is when so-called 'experts,' people who are so involved in the tiny details of the case, forget it isn't ALWAYS about the details. Sometimes it's just about solid investigative work, witnesses, and evidence. Huh? !!! ?

I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question. Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results. soh? more distractions/puffery? what happened to your much advertised "Interview with Rataczk"? I wouldn't post that interview at Dropzone if my life depended on it. You want that interview? Go look for it. You've come down hard on everything I've posted...and NOW you ask for something from ME? Forget it. Quote wulll ... last you left or the 49th time you said you would back and post a link, but since he havent left (any of the 49 times you said you were leaving) then I thought you would post the link, just to prove you had left but hadnt left and were still here. at least you are consistently inconsistent. search for it? sorry not narciscistic enough. it has no relevance.

the question has been asked many times before ... If you mean he had a big mouth, then yes, he had a big mouth. Not as smart as Cooper? Whats your metric?

I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question. Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results. soh? more distractions/puffery? what happened to your much advertised "Interview with Rataczk"?

As for the real D. B. Cooper, his bones are still out there somewhere. The dead-certainty I find in this forum is very humorous, if not amusing. Who will get the left and right femurs to display on their walls, exactly positioned to your latest revised coordinates, as supplied by Blevins after a Fourier analysis of a bobcat's ass in flight between branch A and branch B of a Coniferinae bloptamaceous at 32 Celcius ? You could just skip the details and do the Monolith- thingie, and hit the pig over the head with the bone! You geniuses probably didnt think of that!

The name came from you right here, for me it was the first time I saw it. Did you see what he does? do you really want him to call you? You still have not offered up any evidence and proof. All you offer is unverifiable fictional statements that are liable at best. Matt Give it up Matt. You're tilting at windmills and other people's phantoms. The Cooper case itself is a phantom flame (more like a volcano!) which has attracted many moths, who cannot think for themselves.

Money in the River: Found bills "Found money" Found bills. In the found-river! My hound found the found-money-bills. After my hound found the found-money, we had to impoud the found-found-bills. Sound policy impouding found-things. [Headline] Hound impounds found found-money and found-bills. The found-bills were round, as found. The found-money was originally found-square. A mound of round found-money found. Found found-money impounded as found in the found-river, now for SALE on eBay as found by found- sleuths and found-agents using found-dialectics previously available only to the upper class! Call Jerry Thomas for details when found.

As for the rest of your rabid bloviation - not every empty Big Mac bag thrown on the side of the road contains a meal. Learn to take a joke. I guess one would have to recognise one first! Hows your tomatoes? So you are stating that all of your posts are nothing but "bloviations" and "jokes". What brought about your sudden epidemic of honesty? Is this your best! ? The illegals coming in across you back yard mustbe keeping you up nights. Maybe you are headed the other direction?

But YOU do know everything don't you? Did you learn all of the above by astral projection or did you actually attend classes on the subject during your last visit by UFO to Pluto? I would suggest that you take a closer look at the actual meaning of the word "entropy". In reality, it only refers to the energy in the universe that is not available for use. And entropy is constantly increasing due to the simple fact that no physical process is 100 percent efficent. Thus, the energy lost due to inefficiency becomes a part of the entropy. The end result of all this is that the earth is doomed to die a "heat" death. But the human race will die long before that happens. On the matter of the transcripts, perhaps you noticed that all communications between Cooper and the cockpit were by notes relayed by Tina or by Tina on the interphone. Only after Cooper sent Tina to the cockpit, did he use the interphone himself. And Tina had shown him how to operate the stairs before she went forward. But despite that, Cooper needed additional instructions until he was finally able to get the stairs down. And your allegations are that Cooper was pretending to be ignorant of how the stairs operate so that he could end up about 75 miles or so further down the airway from where he obviously wanted to jump (which was close to Seattle). Ok. From Transcript T1, quote: "6:21pm 305: WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE INDIVIDUAL. He wants Nr 305 to go to Mexico City with gear down and flaps at 15 degrees after under way. All lights to be turned out in aircraft. Cannot land in USA for fuel or any other reason. No crew member is to go aft or class section curtain. MSPFLTOPS: Roger. Even if full tanks you cannot land in Mexico City. 305: Roger. Aft passenger loading door will be open and will remain in that position and aft stairs to be lowered after takeoff. MSPFLTOPS: The drag will be such that you cannot make Mexico border even with aft stairs up. 305: Roger. Will have to negotiate with him and will have to stop for fuel. 305: Girls are not off yet. Senior girl stationed on aft side of the cockpit in her seat remaining seated. 2nd girl in forward rear seat in C section told not to get up. 3rd girl (Mucklow) is intermediary and sitting with the individual. MSPFLTOPS: the plane is operable with the aft stairs extended. 305. Roger? MSPFLTOPS: You just cannot make it with the flaps down. Our guess is you can only go for two and a half hours, as far as can go. That would be Frisco under that drag condition. 305: Roger. Will talk to him again. No mention of Tina in any of the above, opening doors or lowering stairs for Cooper, etc. Those arrangements came later. Obviously his demands had been communicated to the crew, somehow by somebody. As for the rest of your rabid bloviation - not every empty Big Mac bag thrown on the side of the road contains a meal. Learn to take a joke. I guess one would have to recognise one first! Hows your tomatoes?

If he knew so much about the 727 aft stairs, why did he have to ask one of the flight attendants how to put the stairs down? Simple. He didn't. His first request was for the cockpit crew do it. Not Tina. Thats in the Transcript. Tina only got involved later. Read the Transcript. Its a simple but correct fact, easily missed by empiricle nagativists. Secondly simple, it was a ploy. When you have perfect knowledge you fein ignorance to "beat the system". ("He's having some trouble getting the door open".) Likewise, feining ignorance is a sign of perfect knowledge! Thus we know Cooper and his true background. How do we know that? We know that because of Carnot, Clausius, Pictet, Prevot, Kirchoff & Planck and Einstein etal. They are called the three Laws of Thermodynamics which defines all states in the universe according to: entropy. Cooper's actions do not follow a random entropic distribution but a clustered distribution, therefore his actions were feined (ie. not real). Feining ignorance he would then be mistaken as a food server foul mouthed bastard by some moron who thought he was also in charge running the Earth, at Portland, Ralph Himmeslbach! And in like manner, its no accident you extend your specialisation thinking you know everything too!

In all probability, Cooper was on the ground and dead within 60 seconds of leaving the airliner. define "in all probability" !

Hmmm. Do bubbles feel it was worth being a bubble?

And something I've been wondering about...I don't doubt that after the initial flurry there would not be lasting interest in checking every twenty that was handed to a bank teller, but I'm curious..just because they are listed randomly in the files, how do we make the leap that the serial numbers were not released to banks in sequential order? I've never seen that addressed anywhere. One of my uncles was on the Board of one of our hometown banks - rural area - and I thought no way would the DB Cooper list be at our bank, so Iasked. "of course we had the list! ... we arent hicks! ... I remember it well . . . Maggie had the list and checked every week for months ... nothing ever turned up here ... I think there's even a minute in the board meeting(s) about it." I was stunned. Our little ole bank thousands of miles away from the State of Washington! I am sure we were the exception to Blevin's Rule No. 4034. part IIIB. The urban banks and those in sophisticated Washington & Oregon were the only ones skipping the list I guess ... while we here in Corn Town toiled away fruitlessly, foolishly, endlessly to no avail - laughing stock as we were and are compared to ( book writers and their publishers who own the planet!)

Have Angel St Michael and the Four Winds weighted in? Must they! Al Di does not have to be FBI and could be simply someone the FBI, or somebody at the FBI, has chosen to deal with regarding the letters. They chose Tom and book writer Geoff Gray (and Brown Books!), so why not Benny Ambrose from Mt Auburn, or Mary Fonce from Elbows, UT, or Johnny Market at Penelope, Ohio ? The problem with being 'special' is you begin to think you are special! You researches always make the mistake of assuming you are special and have an exclusive access to the FBI. The reality is always otherwise. Theory builders are a dime a dozen. Al Di could be Jose' at Columbia, KS. If anyone here has the ability to track the websites and email it is Snowmman. Do they trace to a remailer in Florida who also handles porn accounts, and an suite in Toronto or Amsterdam? Its always a media event and something special! Never something as ordinary as: he got away and could give a fuck. He moved on while others wrapped themselves up in a saga. It isnt Homerian involving miracles and clues inside Cracker Jack boxes !

They were? Many were using DB Cooper! If not most. That's what all of the hub-bub over the name was all about. Nonfact > Bloviation > more bloviation > dead certain wrong conclusions = Expertise! Into the Blast of nonFacts.

I don't know anything about Al Di or what he has communicated other than what I see on his web site, but a quick glance at the black & white version of the letter reveals one of the most recognizable typefaces in branding history. . exactly! Bruce always goes for the astral projection version...

You sure that wasnt Snowmman? 377 It might have been!

What certifies that any of these letters came from Dan Cooper the hijacker. Is there a vital clue in them ONLY the FBi would know about, and what is that clue? Otherwise, the letters could have come from anyone, even the FBI itself; as ploys trying to get Cooper (or anyone with knowledge of the case) to respond in some fashion. The FBI could have decided to ressurect the technique, just to see what comes out of the bushes now, from gullible 'researchers'? Without further knowledge its probably another media event and dead end. This case is so full of crap it has become self- generating. Alas, you may be correct, G. The decoding seems to be accurate, but what does it mean? It doesn't prove the skyjacker sent the letters. Nor does it tell us who Al Di is, or what his motives are. The whole things keys on the grudge aspect, the evil genius outwitting and playing games, a person financially hard up who is now hopscotching around like the Sultan of Oil State, spending his millions on 200k$ credit? Winning and dinning ... lady on his side. I saw him Chicago with violin case under his arm. I saw him in Philadelphia with a group of orphans. I saw in Reno at the highstakes tables. I saw him in Fairbanks with gold dust and a jet. I saw him in Minnethota with three Swedish girls and a stamp collection worth a fortune! He sent me a letter from Shangrilah. He's a secret agent in the Mosad. He was at the Indy with a cockerspaniel. He sent me a card from Javanna. He dated Margaret Truman. The Titanium on his tie is from a quickie knee replacement done in a shed behind the Ariel Tavern.

What certifies that any of these letters came from Dan Cooper the hijacker. Is there a vital clue in them ONLY the FBi would know about, and what is that clue? Otherwise, the letters could have come from anyone, even the FBI itself; as ploys trying to get Cooper (or anyone with knowledge of the case) to respond in some fashion. The FBI could have decided to ressurect the technique, just to see what comes out of the bushes now, from gullible 'researchers'? Without further knowledge its probably another media event and dead end. This case is so full of crap it has become self- generating.

Hey, Cooper isn't my only life, you know.

dont forget the Military Industrial Complex warning - Dwight D. Eisenhower. Douglas MacArthur had a completely different point of view. I knew Petey's phrase was context driven and you would know the context, based on your conversations with him. I wont make any value judgements. Now if Petey had been a programer and talking about DOS and PL1 ... but he wasn't. Petey was quite the frustrated dreamer, but so were many back then. An uncle of mine advised: 'wishing doesnt make things true - get to work!' Most biases have a personal basis of some kind. Most people form biases (are shaped) by living. Then they discover they have to be able to afford their biases, which they can't! Its one of the basic conundrums of existence. Most of Shakespearre's plays are based on that conundrum. The only question is did his tantrums include hijacking an airplane?

Ambigious statement. It could refer to beating blackjack in Vegas, scamming the IRS on your taxes, forming a corporation and then trashing it for profit, doing a Bernie Madoff on investors...or any number of things. There are a lot of 'systems'. Now if he had said, 'Figure out the perfect crime...' then I would lend more credence to it. You are probably too young to know this but back in the 60s and early 70s "the system" generally referred to only one thing, and it had a political- corporation-war economy connotation, brought to the surface by Vietnam and the first inflation known since the end of WWII. This was long before computer associations and the Conservative movement, which developed because of a collapsing economy post Vietnam under Carter. Given Peterson's background he was probably referring to institutions of government and the corporate economy as that related to colonialism and Vietnam. Read works by Bernard Fall and old issues of The Nation magazine.