georger

and for the same reasons he planned to bail there which probably means he had an escape plan involving the same area ...

How much training did these stews have about how to handle a hijacking? Any? Alice would have been the most experienced.

The problem I have with Flo is her stability - her reliability to be a neutral witness. She obviously had a strong reaction early in the hijacking - words were not coming out of her mouth! - she was sent to the cockpit and didn't come out ? Later she has another 'strong reaction' and cannot or does not agree with other witnesses attempting to describe the hijacker. ?? Or, does she? Flo seems to have strong attitudes and reactions? I wonder if the experienced artists working with these witnesses might have had an opinion about who was the 'best most reliable' witness, based on experience, and who was not ? Im not sure Flo fully qualifies as a 'reliable' witnesses. She might be the most outspoken witness! But not fully reliable ?

Thank you, sir. Laughing ......................... take care.

Nope.. wrong answer

It "indicates" people change their "comments" over time when talking to different people in different settings. Exactly what you would expect. Original impressions immediately after an event are usually the best ie most reliable? People alter their stories over time. You always want perfection. That is seldom how people are over time. Likewise, people being interviewed are sometimes lead to stray or change their stories = the power of the interviewer. Like some guy implying he could feel how the money was wrapped by how it it allegedly felt in his groin? That is pure Blevens crap.

This changes everything!

You could have asked her if she thought the stews (Tina, Flo, Hancock) would have been able to identify the passenger?

Georger, you are doing the "dodging and weaving". Do you finally understand why water runs downhill? still processing .... 4906978 years to go!

Odds are, nobody believes you. It is long beyond the point where dodging and weaving works, R99. So take all the time you want.

I am a rank amateur in this but having read and trying to digest all of these debates over the years, you99 seem to be insisting/arguing that all people and instruments-communications in the flight path system were in perfect synch with each other or should have been - and they weren't! Or, that everyone and every component of the flight tracking system were in synch, when they weren't. You keep asking for perfection when it did not exist because it could not exist ! Moreover you ignore facts the largest of which is the NWA flight path probability map which attempted to predict a drop zone for Cooper. The best anyone could achieve at the time was an estimate of where the drop was based on the best estimate of the flight path of the plane. You do not accept the basic Air Force tracking and plotting of flight 305. That's fine. You never will accept it but that does not require that others will have a different point of view! This is a clash of personalities and methods vs a real problem with the flight path!

Let's just reverse engineer DB Cooper. AI may soon make that possible. Reporting from colleagues at a Denver conference, this is being suggested as a 'game'. Design your own DB Cooper. Artist renderings in the case could soon generate a whole genetic rendering, which theoretically could then be compared to any real genetic information anyone has ! Discussion: Some reported genes appear to influence different parts of the face. PRDM16 is linked to the length and the prominence of the nose as well as the width of the alae, SOX9 is thought to be related to the shape of the ala and nose tip, variation in SUPT3H is thought to influence naso-labial angle and shape of the bridge of the nose, while centroid size (squared root of the squared distances of all landmarks of the face from the centroid) and allometry (relationship of size to shape) have been linked to PDE8A and SCHIP17 genes, respectively, (Cole et al., 2016). Eye width and ear – nasion distance and nasion -zygoma – eyes distances are linked to C5orf50. There is some evidence to suggest that there are additive genetic effects on nose shape involving SOX9, DCHS2, CASC17, PAX1, RUNX2, and GL13 and chin shape, SOX9 and ASPM. In addition, it is likely that one or more genes influence the whole shape of the face as well as more localized facial regions (Claes et al., 2018). A significant number of genes are integrally involved in cranial neural crest cells and patternation of the craniofacial complex (e.g., C5orf50, MAFB, and PAX3).

I stayed up all night trying to compose a MISREPRESENTATION - asshole!

Jesus Christ!

Really! So you are saying Kaye's description is wrong ? Nope not even close? How far or how close is it? So who did Las Vegas/Reno interview for their sketch, ? What's your source(s) ?

Here is Tom's old page on the sketches. Read the text! The initial sketch done at Reno was entirely based on Gregory's representation. Days later the first FBI sketch appeared based on other witnesses. This literally creates a conflict between Gregory and all other witnesses. There is no way around this fact. Who is correct ie. closer to the real DB Cooper image? The difference between Gregory and the consensus from everyone else is astounding! Now we have others chiming in 50 years later offering their expertise! Will the real DB Cooper please stand up!

Back in the day, physical anthro used a socalled 'ethnic facial profile' chart - a holdover from the German Somatotype theory of the 1940s. The American psychologist William Herbert Sheldon promoted this theory in America. The chart purported to show skull and facial types representative of various racial and ethnic groups. The first time I saw the Bing Crosby profile it reminded me of these ethnic charts and I wondered what ethnic skull shape Cooper represented. It struck me that Cooper's skull shape was very distinctive or representative of something - ??? I am sure sketch artists like Rose would have been well aware of these charts or even a part of their professional training ... To me, Cooper's profile in the Bing sketch is very distinctive but I cant put my finger on what ethnic or racial traits it is representative of .... based on my own physical anthro training... back in the Stone Age! His skull shape fits an old formal profile ? It would be interesting to know Tom's reaction based on his Greek ethnicity ... Today the old somatotyping ethnicity charts have been further refined by reference to genetic Haplotypes ? Cooper's physical traits could represent a very specific haplotype.

ok ...

Russet? That to me is a little strange. Brown normal. Russet not typical. But my original question wasnt cloths but the head photo Gregory chose. That choice is way off the mark from what others said and chose... I just dont understand the wide difference making Gregory's choice stand alone? Very plainly, I wonder if there are psychological issues going on with Gregory? He previously described getting a lot of attention from the FBI being shown hundreds of photos through a large number of sessions. He said he finally got annoyed with all the attention and the time this was taking... ? It appears the FBI tagged Gregory as an important witness vs others possibly including the stews? At the end of the day someone in the fbi has to pick and chose or draw a balance ?

Something is going on. Gregory's perceptions seem to be totally different from the stews etc. His colors are different - he claims special expertise given his commercial painting background. How can so many people be wrong and Gregory right... by a LARGE margin ?

When did Gregory pick this photo out? The date. In 1971 or later?

wow!

But, the "FBI" map matches the original 1971 map. It is from 1971. and why wouldnt it! ? The FBI is trying to hide the truth? ... from experts? The height of Mt St Helens fooled everyone .... ?

Oh Good! We dont have to paint our maps pink because somebody says they were pink due to delay ....