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Gee whood a thunk!? Got any other REVAMAshIONS, One-Fact Blevins! WHO YOU GOING AFTER NEXT? THERE AT ADVEMTUIRE BOOKS INVESTIGATIONS Ltd ... Hypocrits unraveling hypocrites! Another fine day at RobertMBlebins esq. COOPERLANDT - seig all sham wow pirate trolls! SOS - SOS - SOS. CALLING VERONKA! Hello muddah, hello faddah Here I am at Camp Granada Camp is very entertaining And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining. Investigation? LOL that's truly funny. The article(s) were linked to this site by others, at least originally. (SEE: 'Read Thread') And I haven't a clue why you are whining about it. I managed to have your Dropzone username, along with a bunch of filthy comments regarding pedophilia and other really BAD stuff removed from one of the articles, and the other article was deleted. Let's get something straight here, Georger. Your username was credited with many of those comments. And even though it was YOUR name used in many of the posts, it was KNOSS who was actually doing the posting. And you are standing up for him, albeit indirectly? That's just bizarre. You should be thanking me. In case you don't realize it, everyone who has ever been either a fan or an investigator of the Cooper case understands that 'Georger' refers to a real person with a real name...and that name is well known. This is because you are featured to a reasonable degree in the book by Geoffrey Gray. And also because both your username, your REAL name, your basic history, and your association with Dropzone were all mentioned in the same paragraph. So...your real identity would have been associated with those posts, and there were DOZENS of them with your username attached. So what the heck are you whining about? Unless you wanted your name associated with that kind of thing. I certainly would not. But that's just me. You want to see those posts? Just drop me an email and I'll forward you the original PDF's of the comments made to both articles. No worries, though. I had your back. Taken care of. You're welcome. I will OBEY! You and Jo Weber sure run an interesting forum for WACKOS. Keep up the good works. The World is counting on YOU! Our hero. RobertMBlevins esq.

Quote I WILL OBEY!

Quote August comes first! Then Jovember. I will obey!

Gee whood a thunk!? Got any other REVAMAshIONS, One-Fact Blevins! WHO YOU GOING AFTER NEXT? THERE AT ADVEMTUIRE BOOKS INVESTIGATIONS Ltd ... Hypocrits unraveling hypocrites! Another fine day at RobertMBlebins esq. COOPERLANDT - seig all sham wow pirate trolls! SOS - SOS - SOS. CALLING VERONKA! Hello muddah, hello faddah Here I am at Camp Granada Camp is very entertaining And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining.

It would all be the same to Jo if he looked liked a Unicorn or a cow. Facts don't matter in this, to the candidate pushers. This is a social media event - nothing more. Has nothing to do with facts! Are you surprised? ?

That's BIG of you! Welcome? to Cooperland? Welcome to Blevinsland! Crazy

I get it, I get it! It is the computer program that fingers the phonies here. Most of the people on this thread can do that without the computer. Robert99 I actually did a lot of it just by reading the PDF of comments (before she deleted more than 200 of them) from Regina's article and then comparing it to posts here on the same day. Cooper Nuttage exists, Robert. There are more than 500 filthy comments to the CNN article now. I already have a response from Daniel Burke. He will take care of it. And not all were done by BK, but by others currently posting here now. This is what I meant when I said 'two-faced phonies'. I should out them, but I won't. I do enjoy the satisfaction of knowing who they are, though.Quote Who is the pizza Pirate you are leaning on in your new avatar? What pizza chain ? Is a pizza place your new office? Are you a pirate-in-training?

"Commander" is not an Army, Air Force, or Marine rank. Was Commander Anderson in the Minnesota Navy, perhaps? MarkQuote funny! Or maybe the Idaho or Nebraska Navy !? A commander of Jackelope and Budweiser Class Interstellar Warships?

Look, I might be right or wrong on this or that, and yeah...I do occasionally (*laughs*) screw up on things. But one thing I don't do is deliberately lie on this thread. I have some principles. By God, they might not be as high as Mahatma Gandhi's, but they do exist.

Universities that teach law - often give out assignments - and COOPER is one of those projects or used to be. Quote Tell us more about that - pretty PLEASE ? I would like to know about that. Which university Law School, when, where ... who? People very close to me know a lot of Law Professors and could make inquiries... Just give the facts if you know this ? Im willing to bet 377 would like to know too! You have peaked our curiosity in a real way ... for a change! ITS A MIRACLE!

GEORGER you are a REAL ASS! It was NOT JO Who suggested Cooper accosted Tina. Cooper did NOT question Tina about her personal life. HAVE U EVER SPOKE TO TINA YOURSELF? I understand from sources she did ASK Cooper QUESTIONS. Remember it was TINA herself who TOLD me that Cooper was a VERY SAD MAN! Ckret ALSO was not the one who suggested Cooper had been a Spotter, he just changed the terminology to Kicker. Which is also a name for the spotters with smoke jumpers. For an ASIA event they would have been Kickers. Cooper and Tina did engage in conversation, but it was Tina asking the questions! WHAT she had been trained to do and what her faith drove her to do. When U SPEAK about ME and WHAT I KNOW U better be able to BACK IT UP with actual affidavits from Tina! U are such a DAM Phoney it is pitiful! I have said your only reason for being in this thread is to diffuse and everytime you get a chance you start throwing shit around - WELL back in your face. Sure I may have verbalize if Cooper perhaps touch Tina in anyway - by that I meant a hand on her hand or her shoulder. Weber used to be a dirty old man - and yes, I wanted to know if he spoke to her badly or touched her in anyway. But, if he had - TINA would NEVER have said ONE damn word about it - that is the kind of person she is and will always be. Why the fricking hell do you think I have gone to such drastic attempts to protect her. SHe was a Child in an adult situation and she was terrified. Speaking of NASTY MEN - you are the WORSE on the thread - you are someone I would NOT want near a young woman...Your creepy! She had her bible with her, but felt that might be too intimidating to the man - she certainly didn't want to make him angery. She asked him what he needed and she was nice to him. He visa versa was nice to her. SO until you personally speak with TINA Keep YOUR mouth shut about her! Duane was VERY respectful of me and of my daughter (my daughter and Tina resembled each other enough to be related). Frankly I think Cooper worried about how the incident effected her. I have even thought he tried to leave her something in 1979 as she lived in Gresham, but maybe he just knew she lived in Gresham and as he alway did spoke of past times. "Used to Know some one who live there and worked in a retirement home". Conversation - questions she asked Cooper hoping to find a key to his identity. Questions she was probably trained to ask. Quote Jo, you are speaking in "horse" again. Of course of course. You should have written books for children! The famous Mr. Ed. You are more creative than our famous ONE FACT BLEVINS - the savior of Auburn Washington! Im sure he will have a statue some day .... won't you? Wouldn't you? Of course of course. It's only a horse! The famous Tina Mucklow and Jo. In plaster of Paris in the Town Hall. For generations yet to come to admire and throw flowers at while munching Taco Bell No. 47. The issue, in case you missed it, was Cooper's modus operendii, not Tina Mucklow's. Cooper's priorities and actions ... not Tina's. Yes. Cooper did no probng of Tina, not much any way. Tina did the bulk of the probing. She got almost nothing back. Thank you for introducing this concept! It further illuminates the direction of conversation and actions of one DB Cooper! Aren't we smart!? Unless it's a horse of course. Which would be, Mr. Ed. of course. Have a nice brawl with the neighbors today! Dont wind up like Zimmerman and Treyvon! You can be naturally mean but be smart about it!

Quote Give em Hell ... "ONE FACT BLEVINS"

Quote Hi Blevin. What you say, and what you do, don't match! How many feet do you "insist" a duck has ? Who are you to "insist" about anything ... since you can't even make one post without making stuff up and getting facts wrong? Let's call you "ONE FACT BLEVINS". You pick the fact. We will remember it's your fact, nobody else's, and you can go down in history as finally having "one fact to your credit"... after a lifetime of applying yourself and trying. Let's hear it for our hero! ONE FACT BLEVINS

I've read a few accounts of pilots shot down over Vietnam. I've heard about them using their two-way radios once they got on the ground. I've heard about them taking those strobe lights and using them to signal up to search aircraft through the jungle canopy. However...I have NOT heard of tracking devices or ELT's being installed into military parachutes as a matter of normal business in Vietnam, or anywhere else pre-Cooper. Now if this is true, I would like to see proof of it. And I don't mean isolated cases, or for you to tell me the FBI could have installed transmitters into the chutes. They could have done that with any of the Cooper chutes, had they chose to do so. If he said he didn't want chutes from McChord, maybe it's because he didn't want to rely on the fact that the military might side-step the FBI and pack the chutes incorrectly on purpose. Maybe he wanted to see a civilian packing card. I don't know, although I would like to see some proof he actually said that. There are a lot of reports out there on Cooper, and some of them are downright false. Like this: Some say McChord actually provided the chutes, which we know is not true. It could even be a time-thing. Perhaps he didn't want to wait for the military to go through channels, get permissions, assign drivers, etc to get them up from south of Tacoma all the way to Sea-Tac in Thanksgiving traffic. You can almost see the situation. The military might stall him, or even get involved with the whole thing both from McChord, or even at SeaTac. There are many factors. It's hard to say. Next you'll be trying to say that the money ended up at Tena Bar because Cooper jumped out west of the I-5 freeway within 10k altitude drifting distance of Tena Bar. You wouldn't suggest something like that, right? Everyone knows that would be ridiculous. Quote For a guy who knows EVERYTHING! you have amazing large gaps. McChord chutes have been thoroughly discussed here ad nauseum including plans to lace the chutes with chaff. Order cancelled with implications (if you believe the back chatter). We know the chutes were late and did not come from McChord. Go back and read the thread, or don't. You have a ton of reading ahead...

the dummy chute can tell a lot.... ckret Sept 7, 2007 Cooper made an inspection of the chutes when Tina was present. As well as the money and the bag the money came in. He made his concerns clear to Tina about the money bag. He checked the money and made statements about that. He stated several times, "no funny stuff," providing nonfunctioning equipment would be funy stuff. Reason dictates that if he new the reserve was a dummy he would have said something about that as well. The agent who originally interviewed Cossey mistakenly reported it was sewn shut. it was not sewn shut, the canopy was cut in half and the panels then sewn together. This was done so that when students practiced deploying the emergency canopy they could easily gather it and quickly stuff it back in the container for another practice throw. Anyone with any amount of experience would have know the x's on the container meant, "you might not want to use this one when jumping out of a plane." Also, when he picked it up it would have been very obvious, if you have any amount of experience, (by that I mean how tight containers are packed) that something was wrong because it would have been "squishy" (not my word but from someone who would know what the belly reserve would have felt like). If he deployed it, it would have been like one of those guns you pull the trigger and a flag comes out of the barrel that says, "bang."Quote Timeline again: Chutes & money on by roughly 6:00pm. Plane takes off 7:34. That's a full 1-1/2 hours for Cooper to ask for other chutes, make any corrections/demands etc. He didn't even bother to ask for the back pack left out. Jumps roughly 8:10 … Total 2 hrs 10 min of time has now passed since the chutes and money were brought on board; time for Cooper to make any inspections, alterations, etc. If you subtract the net amount of time Cooper has spent in specific activity or communications (mostly through Tina), he apparently has spent the bulk of his time nervously sitting, talking to Tina or through Tina to the pilots, smoking a little, staring out of the window(s) in silence, had one drink, spent time getting the stairs down at the end, until between 8:05-8:10? he begins his trials with the stairs and finally jumps. Contrary to Jo Weber's allegations, nobody has ever reported Cooper questioned Tina about her personal life at length or engaged in deep personal discussions with Tina of any kind. Ckret confirmed this (to which Jo exploded!), and Ckret added further that Cooper did not accost Tina in any manner.

Quote Yea well .... I dont know what Transcripts you are reading? Must be the same Transcripts that came with your Palmer Report you claim to have? Here's the actual timeline from the Transcripts I have, Sham Wow Blevins! 5:30pm t1 Everything has arrived. Al Lee on way to meet on runway. (Transcript) 5:47pm t1 305 has landed. Cooper goes to hide in Lavatory. HE WILL NOT ALLOW ANYONE ELSE BUT HER TO BRING THE CHUTES ON. SHE WILL MAKE FOUR TRIPS. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT – THIS IS HIS REQUEST. (Transcript) 5:59 - 6:59 (15:59 – 18:59 PST) The transcripts do not have “Time Stamps” for this period, so all information from this period is presented together. During this 1 hour period there was a lot of communication with SEA GRND and others who were involved with the refueling, exchange (release) of passengers, exchange of parachutes and exchange of the ransom money. (Sluggo Timeline) Hancock was allowed back in to retreive her purse. Hancock and Mucklow report Cooper first inspected the money brought on board and was excited, offered some to Tina, then turned his attention to the parchutes and briefly inspected them, engaged Mucklow in conversation about some instruction sheet for one of the chutes, inspected the chutes further, then selected one and put it on "easily". (Ckret posts) 6:59 - 7:34 Cooper sitting with Mucklow irate about fueling delays and looking out the window. Discussions about route and rear stairs doors opening at take off ... finally demanded "Get the show on the road"... (Transcript & Sluggo) 7:22 (19:22 PST) Cooper says; “Get the plane on the road”. (Transcript) 7:34 (19:33 PST) Flt 305 takes off (Transcpt) 7:41 NWA - Stewardess Mucklow allowed to go to cockpit. Stops & turns at curtain and watches Cooper now tying the bag around his waste. (Transcript) 7:42 NWA - HJ advised by inter-phone that he was having difficulty getting steps down. (Transcript) Note* There is nothing in the Transcripts about Mucklow seeing Cooper cut cord from any chute or a firm timeline for when he did that, between the long period from 5:47 - 7:41 when Muckow last saw Cooper. You did not get this from the Trascripts because it isn't there! You just made it up or you have another source ? Well, those transcripts are missing a vital steps in the process - the process in which the passengers where allowed to DEPLANE - Where is the conversation that took place between Tina and Cooper during this time frame? "We all have a little larcency in our hearts". Duane's ex used to say that all of the time - strange that was also the expression used by Clara the featured woman in Max Gunther's book! Also note the one song Duane did so well was "You'll Never Know" Would have been wonderful if there was Caller Id when Clara was calling Max - this case would have closed when Max revealed his conversations with Clara to the FBIQuote Thats was Blevin's remarks NOT MINE! Learn to reed. "Yeah...well... According to FBI transcripts, by the time that Mucklow delivered the last of the back chutes, the hijacker was already busy cutting cords and wrapping the bag. "

Quote You are always misquoting .... Gray doesnt give any source either ... Quote the passage in Gray. I wonder if it even says what you claim ... All of this goes to your original piece of boilerplate that cutting cord was a first priority on Cooper's part - which is wasn't. So you have made stuff up no matter how this goes - Some people think Cooper would not have opened the chutes at all to look at them were it not for Tina first presenting Cossey's instruction sheet to Cooper which seemed to cause Cooper to pause and think . . . there is no question what happened first in that order of events. Lastly, there is no point in continuing this melodrama you keep spinning. Youve done it since day-1 when you came here peddling KC writing you damned book, and you are still doing it. And you will continue to do it to the bitter end - - - You are what you are. A spin artist. It's pointless to even try to combat htis further. Have a nice lying day. You even knew before posting that you were relying on Gray and not the Transcripts but you went ahead and omitted any mention of Gray and said Transcripts instead! Next you will be quoting ... yourself. You wont need Gray or Dropzone. That is where you are headed!

Yeah...well... According to FBI transcripts, by the time that Mucklow delivered the last of the back chutes, the hijacker was already busy cutting cords and wrapping the bag. Quote Yea well .... I dont know what Transcripts you are reading? Must be the same Transcripts that came with your Palmer Report you claim to have? Here's the actual timeline from the Transcripts I have, Sham Wow Blevins! 5:30pm t1 Everything has arrived. Al Lee on way to meet on runway. (Transcript) 5:47pm t1 305 has landed. Cooper goes to hide in Lavatory. HE WILL NOT ALLOW ANYONE ELSE BUT HER TO BRING THE CHUTES ON. SHE WILL MAKE FOUR TRIPS. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT – THIS IS HIS REQUEST. (Transcript) 5:59 - 6:59 (15:59 – 18:59 PST) The transcripts do not have “Time Stamps” for this period, so all information from this period is presented together. During this 1 hour period there was a lot of communication with SEA GRND and others who were involved with the refueling, exchange (release) of passengers, exchange of parachutes and exchange of the ransom money. (Sluggo Timeline) Hancock was allowed back in to retreive her purse. Hancock and Mucklow report Cooper first inspected the money brought on board and was excited, offered some to Tina, then turned his attention to the parchutes and briefly inspected them, engaged Mucklow in conversation about some instruction sheet for one of the chutes, inspected the chutes further, then selected one and put it on "easily". (Ckret posts) 6:59 - 7:34 Cooper sitting with Mucklow irate about fueling delays and looking out the window. Discussions about route and rear stairs doors opening at take off ... finally demanded "Get the show on the road"... (Transcript & Sluggo) 7:22 (19:22 PST) Cooper says; “Get the plane on the road”. (Transcript) 7:34 (19:33 PST) Flt 305 takes off (Transcpt) 7:41 NWA - Stewardess Mucklow allowed to go to cockpit. Stops & turns at curtain and watches Cooper now tying the bag around his waste. (Transcript) 7:42 NWA - HJ advised by inter-phone that he was having difficulty getting steps down. (Transcript) Note* There is nothing in the Transcripts about Mucklow seeing Cooper cut cord from any chute or a firm timeline for when he did that, between the long period from 5:47 - 7:41 when Muckow last saw Cooper. You did not get this from the Trascripts because it isn't there! You just made it up or you have another source ?

Georger, Let me point out that your use of the term "opened" above does not mean that he pulled the rip cord and looked into the pack itself. If he did, he would NEVER get that thing repacked in that airliner cabin. Any inspection that Cooper made would probably just involve exposing the rip cord pins by unsnapping the flap covering them and checking that the rigger's seal was unbroken as well as checking the rigger's packing card. This is a routine "pre-flight" inspection for emergency parachutes, as opposed to being a "pre-jump" inspection. It doesn't require any skill and only very minimal training. Robert99Quote Good point! Thanks!

There are two alleged facts that point to Cooper having parachute experience, but alas neither can be confirmed as accurate. 1. Cooper located and examined the packing card on the NB 8 rig. 2. Cooper donned the NB 8 rig with ease. Doesn't matter if it was actually an NB 6 for the purpose of this discussion. NB 8 rigs have a VERY well concealed packing card pocket. At the Portland symposium I challenged a non jumper to find it on my stock NB 8 and he was stumped. When I asked another to put the NB 8 on and fasten the straps he had a hell of a time figuring it out. The chest strap arrangement is confusing and even I had trouble the first time I encountered an NB 8. Can I get an amen Amazon? 377 The two "alleged facts" 377 mentions above are in Tosaw's book and Tosaw cites Tina as being the source. If these are in fact "facts", then Cooper had at least a minimum amount of training/experience in emergency type parachutes but probably no more. Since Cooper was expecting to receive back and front parachute rigs, it is unlikely that he would have given any thought to making a jury-rigged attachment of the reserve to the harness until he realized he had no other choice. If Cooper did use some of the shroud lines from the other reserve to tie the first reserve to the harness, then in my opinion he was doing something very dumb and would have been much better to just jump with a single back pack only. Even if the missing reserve was fully functional, it is unlikely that it would stay attached to the harness if the reserve rip cord was pulled during a full-blown free fall. A 10+ "g" jerk or impulse load by a 225 pound jump load on a few shroud lines would be more than they could handle. So Blevins attempts to make a federal case out of what happened to the missing reserve is meaningless. Blevins could use the same arguments to ask what happened to Cooper, the money bag, the missing back chute, the missing food, the "bomb", etc.. Reportedly, an FBI agent stated that "Cooper knew just enough about parachutes to get himself in trouble." That seems to be a very accurate statement. Robert99 We also know he voiced the expectation that the chutes might be coming from MCChord, a military source. It makes sense he would open and inspect those chutes to look for anything suspicious. THAT was one of his first actions (priorities) witnessed by Tina and others; not cutting cord FIRST as Blevins states it. Cutting cord comes much later. And we know there were "issues" with the chutes McChord had planned to send. Cooper opened, inspected, and accepted the chutes brought in and given. We don't know if He commented and said anything technical to Tina about the chutes he was given and checking out ... there is nothing about that in the record so far.

As 377 points out, he knew exactly where to find the packing card on the chute he selected. Quote There you go again. You were there !? You saw him look "exactly" where to find the packing card? There is only one place where a packing card would be and only one explanation for a hijacker opening and looking into the parachute he has been given by the police .. . Cooper went straight to that place and looked specifically for that card ? He wasn't looking for anything else, like a tracking device? Or if he was or might have been, he wasn't ... because Professor Blevins knows he wasn't ... because Professor Blevins was there .... and Professor Blevins knows it when he reads it and recognizes it for what "it" is ... therefore, it is. and, even if we accept your admonition that he knew and was looking "exactly" where to look... does that prove he was military trained and an expert, vs. some food service worker who knows Briam Joyner which served in Vietnam and talks a lot about parachutes ? There rest of your diatribe you can sell to whoever will buy it, and worship you, like Jo does. Thanks for telling me I am a "Cooper Fan" while you are an expert. Quote: Geoffrey Gray: "Blevins? Is he making trouble again? He's a Trouble Maker".

Well, Cooper DID pop the other reserve and cut paracord from it, so I wouldn't call that speculation. Pop at you? LOL that's funny. Every other post you call me a troll. Get real. As far as economy, I already told you I have other interests besides Cooper. Non-Cooper: I have arranged with WSDOT, the mayor of Auburn, and the city's rep on these things to put up a sign about Brian Love at Main and Auburn Way. If you are from Washington, you know these signs. They say: ***'Do Not Drink and Drive in Memory of...' I have asked them to accomplish this task before the parade. So far, everyone is willing and has offered their full support. Trust me, Georger. I have other interests besides Cooper.[/url] And this is not a race, nor it is an effort to see who is smarter. Personally, I think you're a real intelligent guy who may have been dumped behind the door when they passed out the common sense. There you go denying and avoiding you said-did something again. "But we do know one of the first things he did was to pop one of the reserves and cut cord from it." It/s no biggie. We know you are perfect. Troll on. What other word can I use? We are denied using the proper words for things here. That is the handicap we suffer under here. We can't even describe things as they are! Once again Blevins you luck out. You are free to do and deny just about anything. It's your forum and the rest of us are just fucked. Oh, please...I'm here less and less all the time, especially with my long hours working on this and that, most of it for others. True/False: Cooper popped the one working reserve and cut cord from it. I said 'true'. True/False: They didn't find the dummy reserve on board when the plane landed in Reno. I say true. The only question I raised was why would Cooper get rid of the dummy chute and leave the other two aboard? He couldn't hook it up or use it anyway, right? So WHY was it not there? Thoughts on it: I suggested he either tossed it out in anger...or, he may have tossed it out a minute or two before he jumped to serve as a red herring for searchers on the ground. But no one really knows. It's just strange they never found it on board, especially because it couldn't even be attached anyway. The lighter weight of it may be a factor here. Maybe...easier to just pick up and toss out the airstairs. Other Stuff: Got a message from Ayn Dietrich. She forwarded my questions on the Amboy chute to Agent Eng. Her email was very nice. I thanked her and told her I had no other questions for the Seattle FBI on the Cooper case right now. Sheridan: Good suspect in some ways, some ways bad, other is downright ugly. The Good: He was expert enough to make such a jump with a decent chance for survival. The Bad: If he came all the way from Tibet to do it, he certainly didn't dress the part for such a risky jump. Also, his facial features (mostly rounded) don't match the sketch REAL well, although there are some similarities. The Ugly: Blue Eyes. Hard to get around that one. This is worse than the hazel/brown comparison on Christiansen. No. Your statement in support of Cooper having a a 'risk-reward plan' (ie being professionally trained) was: "But we do know one of the first things he did was to pop one of the reserves and cut cord from it." one of the first things he did ... pop one of the reserves ... cut cord from it ... Your statement of the chronological facts you base Cooper's alleged priorities on, is false and wrong. It did not happen the way you say it did. THAT'S THE POINT! It's just one more in an endless series of what Farflung pointed out as your "making stuff up" and use of false facts to support false arguements ... in everything from KC read Dan Cooper comics at Shemya ... right up to your statements above ... Facts count. Arent you the guy who has said that here to your audience 10,000 times as a mantra? Matt has a damned good important point! Not only Matt but a number of people say they see traits of professional training in Cooper's actions. Your recitation however does not support Matt's idea. Because you can't even get the chronological facts straight as an illustration what you say Cooper's priorities were. Especially "if" Cooper was operating with something as formal as a 'risk-reward plan'. Maybe somebody else will come along and illustrate it better, in keeping with the facts of the case. ? Cooper's training or lack of training has been a central issue in the Cooper case from the start. Not just in terms of the person's planning and execution of the crime but in that person's possible actions after the crime, if he survived. A Vita for Cooper has been a long-sought important facet of this case, as FBI agents discussed and actually conducted their investigation! Your case for KC even used the argument that Kenny had been formally trained as a parachute jumper! As a general premise and sometime historian of this whole matter, I am interested in anyone showing that Cooper was trained at all - in anything! Professionals like Farflung have been here and evidently failed to see any clear signs of training and professionalism in Cooper's actions. That is the point of this whole excercise as far as I am concerned.

Exactly. The rest is invention and imagination. Call him up and arrange something privately. Give details later, or not at all! This forum doesn't warrant any *special favors. Call Geoff up and discuss the details with him and let him handle the media side.

Is it biggere than a bread box and smallere than a tank?