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Well, Cooper DID pop the other reserve and cut paracord from it, so I wouldn't call that speculation. Pop at you? LOL that's funny. Every other post you call me a troll. Get real. As far as economy, I already told you I have other interests besides Cooper. Non-Cooper: I have arranged with WSDOT, the mayor of Auburn, and the city's rep on these things to put up a sign about Brian Love at Main and Auburn Way. If you are from Washington, you know these signs. They say: ***'Do Not Drink and Drive in Memory of...' I have asked them to accomplish this task before the parade. So far, everyone is willing and has offered their full support. Trust me, Georger. I have other interests besides Cooper. And this is not a race, nor it is an effort to see who is smarter. Personally, I think you're a real intelligent guy who may have been dumped behind the door when they passed out the common sense. There you go denying and avoiding you said-did something again. "But we do know one of the first things he did was to pop one of the reserves and cut cord from it." It/s no biggie. We know you are perfect. Troll on. What other word can I use? We are denied using the proper words for things here. That is the handicap we suffer under here. We can't even describe things as they are! Once again Blevins you luck out. You are free to do and deny just about anything. It's your forum and the rest of us are just fucked.

"But we do know one of the first things he did was to pop one of the reserves and cut cord from it." Satisfied now? You got your phony history, personal uninformed speculation, and your pop at me in, all in one post versus five long posts tonight - that's a record in economy. As for your speaking for Matt re- "'risk-reward plan". I think Matt has something more formal in mind than you know or can speculate about. Matt is speaking from real credentials he has. Matt is not just some guy who likes to write phony history and boner editorials on Newsvine and Dropzone so he can sleep at night. Matt thinks he sees in Cooper's actions something formal. Matt thinks he sees Cooper acting as someone with a lot of formal training would act, with discipline and what Matt and military tacticians would call - a 'risk-reward plan'. I would not be surprised if that term is used in classes at the War College. 'Risk-reward plan'. And of course the reference here at DZ is one Sheridan Peterson and his training and possibly his thinking patterns in specific situations, which may or may not apply to Mr. Cooper and what Cooper did or did not do, the night of the hijacking. I will wait to hear it (or not hear it) from Matt's mouth as opposed to your guessing about it empathically as if you were there on 11-24-71 as an expert witness ..... ?

Glad to see you and troll Blevins agree in the stereotypes above. No surprise there! I guess novice Blevins adopted your position you have been pushing for years. Of course yours (Blevins and yours) is the minority opinion. At some point before too many more years pass by unaccounted for, you might bother to explain to people precisely what a risk reward plan is. If Cooper had one, it might be nice to know what one is! For example, if a Bonobo were handed a parachute and convinced he was going to be pushed out of an airplane would he display a risk reward plan ? What is there that Cooper did that in your judgement qualfies as a risk reward plan of the type which could only come from massive technical training in the military ... which Bonobos faced with an extreme threat for survival lack, do not manifest in contrast ? Otherwise Matt, your phrase risk reward plan has no efficacy. You may understand what your trying to say but Im not sure anyone else does, unless it would be another skydiver or someone making a bunch of assumptions you never intended? For some one with such a high level of eduction, you sure do come off as immature and childish most times. Matt Thanks for your come off wit more personal attack and non reply some ie. risk reward plan I didnt think you had any credibility of this you speak in so backward forceful credibility there is no evidence for. But no matter in your Good Ole Boys Club. Save the Whales.

Glad to see you and troll Blevins agree in the stereotypes above. No surprise there! I guess novice Blevins adopted your position you have been pushing for years. Of course yours (Blevins and yours) is the minority opinion. At some point before too many more years pass by unaccounted for, you might bother to explain to people precisely what a risk reward plan is. If Cooper had one, it might be nice to know what one is! For example, if a Bonobo were handed a parachute and convinced he was going to be pushed out of an airplane would he display a risk reward plan ? What is there that Cooper did that in your judgement qualfies as a risk reward plan of the type which could only come from massive technical training in the military ... which Bonobos faced with an extreme threat for survival lack, do not manifest in contrast ? Otherwise Matt, your phrase risk reward plan has no efficacy. You may understand what your trying to say but Im not sure anyone else does, unless it would be another skydiver or someone making a bunch of assumptions you never intended?

Sheridan is the devil. Sheridan is the devil it has been proven over and over, eye witness testimony is flawed at best. it has been proven over and over, eye witness testimony is flawed at best. eye witness testimony is the devil. You can lead a horse to water but you can't lead the water to the horse. Close the door before it closes itself. Mulholland Drive is on Muholland Drive. Carnap on Carnap: http://www.ams.org/journals/bull/1938-44-03/S0002-9904-1938-06694-3/S0002-9904-1938-06694-3.pdf You said zip on the Cooper case there. It was another 'gee, look how educated and smart I am' post. I will think of you however, every time I take a nap in my car. Quote You arent worth replying to!

Sheridan is the devil. Sheridan is the devil it has been proven over and over, eye witness testimony is flawed at best. it has been proven over and over, eye witness testimony is flawed at best. eye witness testimony is the devil. You can lead a horse to water but you can't lead the water to the horse. Close the door before it closes itself. Mulholland Drive is on Muholland Drive. Carnap on Carnap: http://www.ams.org/journals/bull/1938-44-03/S0002-9904-1938-06694-3/S0002-9904-1938-06694-3.pdf

Pretty good detective work on the 727. 377 Pretty lofty stuff! Could fall under the same heading as: interdimensional beings Why would you opt for becoming an interdimensional being hijacker when all you have to do is give Howard Hughes or the New York Times a call, and sell a few interdimensional trade secrets? Hell the CIA would pay a fortune for these! Easy money. Then you could BUY Tibet vs. housing your family in a mud hut in it! If money was all the hijacking was about. Woo woo. Woo woo. Chuck Barris call home! The mice are lose in the attic AGAIN! Strange sounds in the bell tower again. Sheridan is the devil. Sheridan is the devil. The DB Cooper Hijacking had its roots in CIA activity in South East Asia And by 1980 inflation would reduce that paultry $200k ranson to barely enough to finance a wedding or pay for burying the family pet or Grandpa ... which shows terrible financial planning on the hijacker's part! Sheridan is the devil. Sheridan is the devil.

Yeah, I was wrong about MADD, although the accident that happened up on the Auburn-Black Diamond Road with those kids on the bikes was real enough. I wasn't exactly thinking straight yesterday. Been very upset and the next Planning Committee meeting for Auburn Days will not be easy for anyone. Not only did I know Brian Love pretty well, I went to school with his adopted sister. Maybe I just WISHED Madd had started here. My bad.Quote OK. Matter closed. If you or anyone at Auburn ever wish to establish a MADD chapter all you have to do is contact the people in the Seattle office of MADD. In fact I believe there are at least two people if not more at Auburn who already have a tie to the Seattle MADD chapter. The Seattle office of MADD runs a very strong widely recognised chapter. Good luck to the people of Auburn in their Good Ole Days etc. Sincerely, G.

Washington State is reasonably tough on DUI Vehicular Homicide. One reason is because Auburn, WA is the original home to Mothers Against Drunk Driving. All started when a woman who had consumed a fifth of vodka plowed into several children riding their bikes. All were killed, I believe. Quote Really? Not saying you're wrong but ... Origin of MADD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) is a nonprofit organization in the United States that seeks to stop drunk driving, support those affected by drunk driving, prevent underage drinking, and overall push for stricter alcohol policy. The Irving, Texas–based organization was founded in 1980 in California by Candice Lightner after her 13-year-old daughter was killed by a drunk driver.[1] MADD claims that drunk driving has been cut in half since their founding.[2] Candace Lynne "Candy" Lightner (born May 30, 1946) is the organizer and founding president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD). On May 3, 1980, Lightner’s 13-year-old daughter, Cari, was killed by a hit-and-run drunk driver at Sunset and New York Avenues in Fair Oaks, California. The sentence given to the repeat offender of driving while intoxicated (DWI) outraged Lightner who then organized Mothers Against Drunk Drivers.[1] The name was later changed to Mothers Against Drunk Driving. The object of her organization was to raise public awareness of the serious nature of drunk driving and to promote tough legislation against the crime. Lightner appeared on major television shows, spoke before the US Congress, addressed professional and business groups, and worked for many years to change public attitudes, modify judicial behavior, and promote tough new legislation.[2] I will pass your post on to the Regional Manager of MADD. She will very likely contact you and/or the City of Auburn to check your claim out. Why would I do that? Because a number of corporations fund MADD. They will also be interested in your claims. People in corporations tend to want to know to whom and where their money is going! In addition Mr. Blevins, your main Chapter office for MADD in the State of Washington is at: PO Box 46018 Seattle, WA 98146 (map) Phone: 206.734.3205 Email: wa.state@madd.org http://www.madd.org/local-offices/wa/ I cant find any record, so far, indicating there is a chapter or was ever an office for MADD at Auburn, WA.

Quote Strange = Weird! YOU are the ONLY one who brings it up! It's your mantra for some personal reason I guess that means something - in your world. Doesn't mean squat to me! Good luck with your personal problems, Troll. Let's have a song! Ah one and a two and a - ah ein und dies zwei und ah - Du, du liegst mir im Herzen du, du liegst mir im Sinn. Du, du machst mir viel Schmerzen, weißt nicht wie gut ich dir bin. Ja, ja, ja, ja, weißt nicht wie gut ich dir bin. zo, so wie ich dich liebe zo, so liebe auch mich. Die, die zärtlichsten Triebe fühl' ich allein nur für dich. Ja, ja, ja, ja, fühl' ich allein nur für dich. Doch, doch darf ich dir trauen dir, dir mit leichtem Sinn? Du, du kannst auf mich bauen weißt ja wie gut ich dir bin! Ja, ja, ja, ja, weißt ja wie gut ich dir bin! Und, und wenn in der Ferne, mir, mir dein Bild erscheint, dann, dann wünscht ich so gerne daß uns die Liebe vereint. Ja, ja, ja, ja, daß uns die Liebe vereint.

This does not match the evidence on Weber, which shows that he may have given up theivery as a living, A) Because he liked you enough to stop. B) Because he was no good at it. Weber's extensive record is a two-edged sword. When the FBI investigated him, this means they had a fair amount of history to go on. He wasn't John Q. Never-Break-the-Law Citizen. So they probably took him seriously as a suspect when they investigated him back in the day. But they found nothing. You know they showed his picture to witnesses. You know they questioned people he knew. Nothing ever came of it. The only thing you've ever REALLY presented beyond the FBI's investigation is a supposed clerk's testimony in Portland, and a bag tossed into the river. I think we can discount the deathbed statement that he was Dan Cooper. There are no verifiable witnesses to this statement. There are no verifiable witnesses to notes in a Cooper book, something that is mentioned by you in many old articles when you first came forward. Christiansen's deathbed statement, 'There is something you should know, but I can't tell you...' I take with a grain of salt. My first thought was that Kenny was trying to tell his brother he was gay. What a laugh. Both Lyle and KC's nephew Bruce Christiansen set me straight. They testified the whole family knew that Kenny was gay from about the time Kenny was 16, and that there was some fear in the family that Kenny would be discovered when he enlisted in the paratroops. Back in those days, they did a DD on you for homosexuality and your life was basically ruined. If you engaged in a homosexual act in the military, you could end up in Federal prison. Obviously, he was able to keep that under wraps and serve with distinction. After the war, the first thing many employers wanted to see was your service history. What did you do, where did you serve, and how were you discharged? That was the reality of the late 40's and early 50's. It was a big risk for Kenny to enlist, and a testament to both his bravery and his patriotism. He was READY to be one of the guys dropped in for a mainland invasion of Japan, and passed training when two out of three washed out. It's a measure of character and I believe that if the A-bomb hadn't ended the war he would have jumped with the rest. I've been asked multiple times about MOTIVATION. That's easy. After so many years with NWA, Kenny was living in a cheap-ass apartment in Sumner, WA and was broke. Then, I think, Bernie Geestman came up with an idea. He would know. He worked for Boeing when they were developing the 727. That can be proven. We also know that at the time of the hijacking he was saddled with his sister Dawn Andrusko and her four kids. And that just five months after the hijacking she got enough cash to buy her own place in Buckley via Kenny via Geestman as Delivery Boy. She has testified to this. Was Kenny the hijacker? Honestly, I don't know. But his letters home around the time of the hijacking definitely show he was unhappy with both his financial situation and the airline itself. An airline he had worked his ass off to support for five years on a freezing-ass rock in the Aleutian chain. He stayed longer than almost anyone did, nearly five years refueling, oiling those planes, whatever. Usual tour was 18 months or so. He quit after that, and became a telephone operator down in the South Pacific where they were testing A-bombs. But he still gave NWA a second chance, improving himself by taking purser training, and more than twenty years after he did that, he was still living like shit in a crappy little apartment down in Sumner, WA. Maybe the reason the hijacker wanted the stairs down was because he lived somewhere close to the southbound route to Portland out of SeaTac. You think? (*smiles*) He may or may not have been Cooper, but brother that's motivation to say you've had enough. Especially if you've got a liar and a crook and a supposed friend like Geestman shoving you from behind. The strangest thing of all is Bernard Wayne Geestman telling History Channel that he barely knew Christiansen and thought he was a dishwasher. But when he appeared on Decoded, he admitted he had been at Kenny's deathbed. We already know that when he did that, he hadn't seen Kenny in many years. I've wondered whether he just wanted to make sure Kenny wasn't going to admit to everything at the last minute. You never know. QuoteSpielen Sie das Band wieder Sam

Quote Your Troll Rescue & CPR always werks! Sexist to a fault, but a good First Responder. Got anything new on DB Cooper? Was he a Gray ? Do you spend your life in a permanent state of butt hurt... or is that just your nature.Quote Was ist dieser Arsch weh ?

Quote Your Troll Rescue & CPR always werks! Sexist to a fault, but a good First Responder. Got anything new on DB Cooper? Was he a Gray ?

Quote Or, there is another explanation more mundane/ordinary. The story of the scorpion comes to mind.

Quote I misspoke. The major drought followed by flood was in 1976 to early 1977. Just as you correctly report. There were in fact a number of reports, not just the Palmer report. Content of those reports was the basis of my confusion. I havent looked at them for a long time. Palmer: said he thought the money was probably placed at Tena Bar during the last rise in the Columbia River (Nov 1979 – Jan 1980) and certainly no more than a year. He based this on the condition of the money (consultations) and his own observation that the money was in the 'upper active layer' higher up on the beachfront. He mentioned the Washougal as a possible source. Witness No.2: Advised the only likely river source in his opinion was the Washougal and its tributaries. He ruled out several other sources including Lacamas Lake based on slope and hydro records for the period 1971-80. A logical time involving the Washougal, would have been during the December 2, 1977 Washougal flood when parts of the Washougal were approx. ten feet over the normal winter flood stage. The money package would have had to hae been within ten feet of a catch tributary feeding the Washougal. He noted a velocity of three feet per second speed of the Columbia River during this period making a 30 mile trip to Tena Bar in approx 14.7 hours. see attachments _

Quote let me check records -

Quote I think you mean 79 flood. If it's the Palmer Report you're thinking of ... Worst drought in decades hit the area going into '79. Ended abruptly in Dec 79. By early Jan 80, some Washougal tributaries were 10 feet out of their banks. The citation in the Palmer Report is that in order for the Washougal to have been involved, the money or its bag would have had to have been within 10ft of some tributary... in order to have been carried down the Washougal.. where as we know from JT and Blevins tests, things from the Washougal do wind up on Tina Bar ... precisely where the money and Tina childhood photos and photos from buDop all wind up ... just waiting for Ingram to build a fire. This discounts interdimensional teletransportation via the Maldum Fornax Vector Diode according to Bruce Smith who runs Mountain Hi News ... not to be confused with RobertMBlevins Adventure Books Trolling Newsvine News! Any new Cooper Cult news? I was taking the date from what Carr said in his post. I forgot it was 79. is any pictures of Portland/Vancouver around showing the flooding?Quote When Aaron and I parted the waters we didn't take any photos. Yea I know. History and Tom Kaye are really pissed!

We have to find the farthest northwest location that the bag could have landed and emptied into the Washougal Water Shed, keeping in mind the 77 flood. Quote I think you mean 79 flood. If it's the Palmer Report you're thinking of ... Worst drought in decades hit the area going into '79. Ended abruptly in Dec 79. By early Jan 80, some Washougal tributaries were 10 feet out of their banks. The citation in the Palmer Report is that in order for the Washougal to have been involved, the money or its bag would have had to have been within 10ft of some tributary... in order to have been carried down the Washougal.. where as we know from JT and Blevins tests, things from the Washougal do wind up on Tina Bar ... precisely where the money and Tina childhood photos and photos from buDop all wind up ... just waiting for Ingram to build a fire. This discounts interdimensional teletransportation via the Maldum Fornax Vector Diode according to Bruce Smith who runs Mountain Hi News ... not to be confused with RobertMBlevins Adventure Books Trolling Newsvine News! Any new Cooper Cult news?

Quote Yepper. That;s silk!

Quote So, your use of the term "torque" IS intended to imply force(s) being applied from a particular direction .. resulting in rotation. (Why didnt you just say that, in the first place?) Direction would then be equivalent to, or indicate, direction of travel. IE the direction from which the money came ... as evidenced by 'the spin of the money on some axis'. Let's assume Tom's 3 bills he had to analyse are the 3 topmost bills from the bundles ... something we have no way of knowing. Let's further assume the bills were fresh and free to slide relative to each other ... noting the fanned out nature of individual bills in Tom's graphic. This may assume the bills are free to move and not stuck to each other ... so this is happening in 1971? Direction of force (torque) implies direction of travel? See photos attached. You claim there was a force from above and behind the money location? What force would that be? Rain .. melt water? You claim the money was headed toward the river but had never been "in" the river. What direction are you talking about and from where? Does it come across the Fazio property or does it arrive parallel with the beach length but above the river proper? Perhaps along the road between the river and below the Fazio property further behind? During high water (flood) or more slowly over a longer period? Just three bundles of money only? Ps: Now my feeling is R99, you have this worked out to a fairly hgh level of accuracy ... right down to precise elevation above the river yet below the Fazio property behind ... perhaps at the elevation of the roadway between the river and the Fazio property behind which winds in and through those bushes just behind where the money was found ... and since 'elevation' is commensurate with recorded river elevations by year ... I would not be surprised if you had this worked out to the exact year you think this money arrived, experiencing the exact force vector you think applies as shown and evidenced by Tom's slide on the rotation of the uppermost bills!? Yes or No ? Give us the year? I'm guessing Dec 1979 into January 1980 ? In synch with Palmer's theory? If not 1979 then my next guess is 1972 ... or lastly 1976? Nice theory as theories go. And the "force mechanism" you are relying on is: . . . . . ? I have marked the roadway on my graphic now. Furthermore, I speculate you think you know the exact angular placement of the money bundles, as viewed from above, as Ingram found it ... given that you have established a force vector involved? Yes? Torque is defined as a force that tends to cause rotation (that is the desk dictionary definition). To cause the rotation in "free body" systems, the force must be offset from the center of mass of the object by some finite distance. Consequently, the units of torque are foot-pounds (in the English system). Common examples of the application of torque can be found in the use of a screw driver, the tightening of lug nuts on an automobile wheel, opening a door by use of a door knob, and adjusting the angular rotation and vertical rotation of a telescope. And for my edification, why am I having to explain torque to an astronomer? A careful examination of the bills shown on Tom Kaye's web page shows that the bills were restrained on the left end of the packet. Apparently, the rubber band that originally held the packet together had slipped to within an inch or so of the left end but continued to hold the fragments from other bills even as the portions on the right end of the packet separated. The obvious conclusion from this is that the left end of the packet had grounded, or been restrained in some manner, while the right end of the packet was less restrained and the bills could move counterclockwise with respect to the left end. In the passing of time, the right ends of some of the bills completely separated. It is premature to speculate on ever movement of the bills from the time they separated from Cooper until they reached the location where they were found. But this remains an active matter of interest. The General Energy Equation, which applies to all physical phenomena, at least in the vicinity of the earth, is the governing equation. I assume you are familiar with this equation. If not, exactly where did you go to school? The matter of the time that the money arrived at the location where it was found is also an ongoing matter of interest. But as you have known for several years, locating the Columbia River water level records for the pre-1974 time frame has not been successful. That is, unless you found them and didn't pass the word along. But efforts continue to be made to develop more information on Cooper's exact splatter point and how all of the above matters fit together. In the meantime, keep the faith and stay tuned. Robert99 Good grief! You are sounding more like Blevins every day! I have copied your reply (took me forever to find it among pages of shit ... ) I will read your reply and study it! I will reply if I think the risk is worth it! I don't want to lose my virginity to a intellectual thug who thinks he has a monopoly on vodka, Twinkies, and being a smartass! I will study hard -= very hard! http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/tutorials/torque/Q.torque.intro.html torque 1 (tôrk) n. 1. The moment of a force; the measure of a force's tendency to produce torsion and rotation about an axis, equal to the vector product of the radius vector from the axis of rotation to the point of application of the force and the force vector. 2. A turning or twisting force. tr.v. torqued, torqu·ing, torques To impart torque to. [From Latin torqure, to twist; see terkw- in Indo-European roots.] What was this other thing? " The General Energy Equation" ??? No one has answered the question at Wiki Questions so why am I responsible? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_general_energy_equation Why dont you go to Wiki and tell us all! I do find this! https://wiki.ucl.ac.uk/display/MechEngThermodyn/First+law+applied+to+flow+processes and this! http://www.unistudyguides.com/index.php?title=General_Energy_Equations As to a specific explication of your "The General Energy Equation" and your application of it I freely admit, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about, as it applies to your "torque" of the Cooper bills ... all three of them. I am suspicious this is just one more Blevins' Straw Man. Please continue with your bloviation. And, avoid all mention of Location ... on the shoreline of a river? (or does that require The General Energy Equation too) ? In a previous post you clearly said: 'was head toward the river', 'never made it to the river', 'was never IN the river', and 'came in from behind' ? Are you now claiming: because of The General Energy Equation you never said that, too!?

I'm saying the Seattle FBI's investigation into it, and the results they released, are not adequate. Aren't you the least bit interested in knowing for sure whether Cossey was right? Brother, I am...Quote I am sure the FBI has you profiled.

Neither. It was Cooper Vortex force. There's a Nobel Prize waiting for the person who can prove it exists and characterize how it operates. It can torque mental processes too. We see proof daily. 377 I know I got seriously torqued already today. Had to switch out two tires on my truck, which also ran into moving the fronts to the back and vice versa...with a single jack. What fun. It's over 80 degrees here this morning. Ugh. Quote We are discussing the Cooper case if you don't mind. Your post is OFF TOPIC! We dont give a rat's ass about your personal "shit"! I could give you 30 personal things that are going on in my lfie right now - do I post that here? NO! Neither does anyone else! Only YOU anfd JO WEBER!

My use of the term "torque" is correctly stated but the term "rotation" may make more sense to you. Basically, the bills shown in the referenced sections of Tom Kaye's web page indicate that one end of the packet of bills stayed close to its original position while the other end of the packet spread out. This is somewhat like what you do when you are holding a hand of cards (poker, bridge, etc.). Robert99Quote So, your use of the term "torque" IS intended to imply force(s) being applied from a particular direction .. resulting in rotation. (Why didnt you just say that, in the first place?) Direction would then be equivalent to, or indicate, direction of travel. IE the direction from which the money came ... as evidenced by 'the spin of the money on some axis'. Let's assume Tom's 3 bills he had to analyse are the 3 topmost bills from the bundles ... something we have no way of knowing. Let's further assume the bills were fresh and free to slide relative to each other ... noting the fanned out nature of individual bills in Tom's graphic. This may assume the bills are free to move and not stuck to each other ... so this is happening in 1971? Direction of force (torque) implies direction of travel? See photos attached. You claim there was a force from above and behind the money location? What force would that be? Rain .. melt water? You claim the money was headed toward the river but had never been "in" the river. What direction are you talking about and from where? Does it come across the Fazio property or does it arrive parallel with the beach length but above the river proper? Perhaps along the road between the river and below the Fazio property further behind? During high water (flood) or more slowly over a longer period? Just three bundles of money only? Ps: Now my feeling is R99, you have this worked out to a fairly hgh level of accuracy ... right down to precise elevation above the river yet below the Fazio property behind ... perhaps at the elevation of the roadway between the river and the Fazio property behind which winds in and through those bushes just behind where the money was found ... and since 'elevation' is commensurate with recorded river elevations by year ... I would not be surprised if you had this worked out to the exact year you think this money arrived, experiencing the exact force vector you think applies as shown and evidenced by Tom's slide on the rotation of the uppermost bills!? Yes or No ? Give us the year? I'm guessing Dec 1979 into January 1980 ? In synch with Palmer's theory? If not 1979 then my next guess is 1972 ... or lastly 1976? Nice theory as theories go. And the "force mechanism" you are relying on is: . . . . . ? I have marked the roadway on my graphic now. Furthermore, I speculate you think you know the exact angular placement of the money bundles, as viewed from above, as Ingram found it ... given that you have established a force vector involved? Yes?

I don't have anything to do with Jo Weber. But since you're asking about the remainder of the loot, how about this: If the hijacker lived, he spent it and no one traced it. You keep ignoring the facts, such as my interview with a senior Treasury Department official, as well as Larry Carr's admission in 2008 that no one was even LOOKING for the money within a maximum of six months after the hijacking. If you actually addressed a question seriously, instead of with Alice-in-Wonderland, I-Wanna-Be-A-Farflung type responses, I'd drop dead of shock. Here's what Treasury said to my same question on the money back in 2010: ***'The FBI later printed the complete list of serial numbers of the 10,000 twenty-dollar bills given to Cooper and distributed them to banks, primarily in the Pacific Northwest. However, this list ran several rows of numbers per page and was thirty-four pages long. They were also non-sequential numbers. The F.B.I. has had a few different Special Agents running the Cooper case over the years. In 2008, it was Larry Carr. He admitted in an audio interview that most banks gave up trying to check their incoming twenties against the ransom list within six months or less after the hijacking. The job was just more than bank tellers could handle, due to the sheer volume of different numbers involved. The U.S. Treasury Department also assisted in keeping an eye out for any of the bills, but they were already receiving tens of thousands of bills from other sources each week for normal damaged currency replacement. They were also unable to continue this effort for very long. Although the F.B.I. once claimed that Treasury kept looking for years, a Treasury official contacted by the authors in 2010 contradicted this claim...' And here's the reason he did: Because he said that literally TRUCKLOADS of used or damaged currency arrive at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing each day for normal replacement from banks, businesses, and individuals. In fact, my 'tens of thousands of bills' estimate wasn't even close. (That's actually a mistake in the book I should have changed long ago. I should have said truckloads as he told me. My bad.) And it was the same situation at the Fed Banks. He said that no matter what the FBI claimed about it, that such a search effort was impossible, and even if it had been attempted, it would not have gone on for very long. THAT'S why none of the bills 'showed up in circulation'. This means that within six months of the hijacking, or less, it was reletively safe for the hijacker to spend those twenties any way he wished without fear of getting caught. (On Larry Carr: The audio interview where he admits the bill search was given up within 3 to 6 months is listed on the Wiki page for Cooper, down at the bottom of the page under External Links.) Now today...they could probably do something. Maybe scan the incoming bills from a computer-generated list of numbers to catch. But not back then. It would all have to be done by hand from a 34-page paper list containing 10,000 non-sequential serial numbers. Unless Cooper was dumb enough to walk into a local bank with some of the bills within a short time after the hijacking, it was an assignment doomed to failure. All he had to do was wait a little while.Quote They say, if a superior alien technology ever visits Earth, it may appear as Alice-in-Wonderland. Maybe that is the problem you are having here. Ihre Dummheit verblüfft alles Deutschland! It's a case of a One Trick Pony. We hit the boundary of its limitations long ago. Play it again, Sam.