snowmman

Kaufman and Lawler had the same issue as Jo and Jerry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11T_-k7ckrg You don't settle this on a forum. You settle it in the ring.

A lot of people think they remember the Kaufman vs. Lawler wrestling match, but never really saw it. They just remember the lead up to it on Letterman. Here's the real thing for all the posers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKqiLCtF8I8&feature=related

Jo said "I do publically apologize for that remark as it was NOT very kind of me. I am not generally an unkind person." Hey what about me? I don't get no loving? I guess there are bounds to kindness.

So out of the blue, the thread started talking about neutron initiators here: (jan 3, 2009) http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3443738;search_string=neutron;guest=64766038#3443738 And if I look at the English (and Farsi) versions of these documents recently released, it sounds like Iran is talking about neutron initiators too. http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/farsi-and-english-versions-of-document-on-neutron-initiator/ I wonder if they know who DB Cooper is?

I've discovered evidence that this forum is inhabited by "trolls, lurkers, smart-asses, butt-heads, intellectuals, comedians, pontificators, pretenders, and dumb-heads. " Since "jumpers" wasn't included in the above treatise, I'm assuming they're spread out (hiding?) in the various groups above. This forum is for CIA, FBI, DHS, TSA, and any other OGA that has a black something or other, and hopefully no ID badge. And the crazy lady. Now that reminds me. So after Quentin took a pass on the treatment, I'm scrambling. John Cameron comes to mind. So I hang outside his office one morning and draft in after the guy delivering the morning's copy of the Hollywood Reporter and Variety. I'm in front of the receptionist babbling about 727's, dirt runways, stolen gun collections, money analysis that's covered up, etc. And it's not long before a big beefy guy has his hand on my arm and is showing me the elevator. (how come that seems to happen to me a lot?) And I'm trying to get the last bits of my elevator pitch out, before I get tossed in the elevator. ...and I realize I have to play my best card. I turn my head in the direction of an office with a nameplate that says "John C." and yell "Plus there's a crazy lady!". I swear everything freezes at that moment. And there's like the classic double take scene....After like a full minute, a voice, calm, flat....seemingly coming from everywhere and nowhere, like there must be speakers implanted in all the walls and ceilings or maybe the walls and ceilings are the speakers...but the voice is like god ...and it says "Bring him in" And that's what led to the most intense 45 seconds of my life.

ahem. This friend of yours. Does she have any files that need to be examined before the JJ show?

Sluggo, she has a number of different blogs she scribbles at... this one has an email address for her http://merryscribbler.blogspot.com/ I like the idea of Sluggo contacting random women asking them about DB Cooper. (edit) It's possible she's in the Federal Witness Protection program. (edit) ah I see 1969.. saw the same thing. So WTF did Sluggo post, if it was so obvious? Is Sluggo in the Federal Witness Protection Program?

Okay, I'll bite. If you go to the link sluggo provided (which is funny in itself: www.2blowhards.com and fubar.cgi)....you can see Prairie Mary's post (was she a porn actress?) with a 2006 date after it. The weird thing is the immediate next post. By poster named "Sluggo" And this is 2006? WTF is that?

377: re my investigation. I was paid off. I made them double it, because I said 377 needed a cut. But then I kept your cut. Sorry, bills and such, you know? You said you had those $15 jump tickets, so I figured you didn't need your half? Merry Christmas!

377 claimed, without proof "If it's true it can't be slander." This doesn't seem right. Going to see if I can lobby Senator Franken to get a rider on a bill to overturn this miscarriage of justice. The U.S. economy runs on slander. Hey I saw a Tiger Woods Accenture ad on the walls still in the airports. Tiger, with a ball in the rough, and the copy "What are you going to do now?" (Accenture was a consulting company that used Tiger in their ads... So apropos. I've been sending fax's to Woods' machine, seeing if he needs some consulting help, but no replies as of yet. I'm really confused now. Am I still supposed to "Be a Tiger" ? Did life in the U.S. just get more fun?

Galen Cook likes to dance the tango. I don't know why.

Duane Weber was a murdering son of a bitch. He was part of a group of Rogue Rangers who went around killing women and children. I know this from information from his ex-wife and also a friend. He would always stiff the waiter on tips.

When we go to court, I'm going to represent myself. A captive audience of 12 that I can walk thru every post? Wow...a bigger audience than we ever had here. Should be fun. Need to get the press interested. But man: there's too much evidence. All these posts. All the attachments and links And we'll have to subpoena for whatever small number of PM's or email exists. There's too much! We can't wait for court. We gotta start now. Okay: what's the proper legal way to threaten people? I know it helps if you write letters on stationery with a lawyer's letterhead. At least it appears that way? Can I just put "Snowmman" on the top and have the same effect? Is there applicable law? (edit) I'm also confused about what gets put in the "trivia" bin. Is this post trivia? What if I talk about coal tar? Is it trivia now?

Jerry, I'll help out here, the relevant law you're going to lock up Jo with. This is very serious sounding indeed! OFFENSE: Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001(a)(2) - Making a False Statement in a Matter Involving International and Domestic Terrorism PENALTY: Not more than 8 years imprisonment, $250,000 fine, or both; (edit) They guy I buy coffee (one sugar, no cream, wooden stirrer) and an apple fritter from, in the morning, was charged with the same thing. I think he was obstructing the Cooper investigation. His indictment is attached.

What's the lawyer count at right now? 8 is NOT enough!

Jo warned "How does it feel to have your word and your intergrity questioned? Are you uncomfortable right now?" See? I touted the benefits of posting naked before. No uncomfortable binding. (edit) 1000 pages of posts seems so far off. But if not us, then who?

just a quick note. The Foundation has gotten more organized and changed the drop, I mean paypal address. Send all money to duaneweber@paypal.com We'll use it to help promote the cause. The response has been a little overwhelming and we've had to add staff, but it's a good thing. No government agencies (western hemisphere) were involved in this post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th0jLDCJrYE

Dec 19, 2009, 3:18 PM Dec 19, 2009, 8:33 PM interval: 5 hrs 15 minutes

Give it up folks. Game is over. I won.

Jo observed "Someone must be paying you...especially since it appears that when a post of value is made and on subject you interject your trivia." You might also observe that I never get banned. There's a reason. But it's kept secret. Another question: Why is SchlitzNGrins so into trivia? He has no defense to that question, and I believe he's ridden in a helicopter once. "Remember the Camino pictures and never forget them." I honestly can't. Maybe you could repost and we could discuss them. Georger might need to be refreshed on those? I dunno.

Hi Jo. I'm just a nutty guy that posts to a DBC thread. You're just a nutty woman that does the same. That's all there is here. The truth hurts (hey I'm just as messed up!) Hey I noticed that georger seems to be a little more easy going lately, at least by my read! success for the thread?

http://www.cooper-paynetreefarms.com/aboutus.html Now you might ask after looking at that page. "Why the hell is snowmman talking about a tree farm near Chapel Hill, North Carolina?" ... Seems innocous. They sell trees. Work on landscape. But scroll down to the bottom of the link at top... It says: "We have space to accommodate our customers who prefer to travel by helicopter" Now I may not be worldly, but I've never run into people who fly helicopters to visit tree farms. I'm a little worried SI might be seeing some competition here. Here's a satellite view of the black site: http://wikimapia.org/#lat=36.0344552&lon=-79.0962719&z=19&l=0&m=s&v=9 Coordinates: 36°2'4"N 79°5'46"W What you can see is that they have white adirondack chairs that are 20 feet tall. I'm guessing these are chaff to disguise the apparent size of missile launchers, in satellite images. For all you disbelievers, the pics of the giant chairs are here: http://www.cooper-paynetreefarms.com/Garden-Art.html I was wondering if Duane might have been connected with this black site, and got the Cooper name from it?

wait a second. Are you saying that after Duane hijacked 305, he didn't put the money bag in the van? Are you nuts? Where else would he put it? I always figured the longer the bag was in the van, the more credible the story? We're talking a number of years, right? (edit) Just noticed an interesting summary from the report above: "Finally, we found that the policy interventions examined here significantly decreased the likelihood of nonterrorist but not that of terrorist hijackings.""

(note that the way we think of terrorism and how to control it, should really just be an extension of how we dealt with hijacking..unless you think terrorists are invading the US in large numbers: armies. Now in terms of other countries, that's a different story. But that has a lot of other issues than what we really mean by terrorism) in terms of "modelling" the recent stuff on "contagion theory of hijacking" is along those lines. There's been a number of papers some long. (I posted on this back in the thread) here's a short one http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~surette/hijacking.html "It has often been claimed that aircraft hijacking is a "contagious" phenomenon, that the motivation to hijack aircraft spreads from one individual to another as a result of media coverage of hijacking incidents. This article develops a mathematical model of contagion and applies it to aircraft hijackings in the United States between 1968 and 1972. Analyses show that successful hijackings in the United States did generate additional hijacking attempts of the same type (either transportation or extortion). There were no contagion effects of unsuccessful hijacking attempts in the United States or any effects on U.S. hijacking attempts of such attempts outside the United States." also the "rational choice" model of hijacking? http://www.start.umd.edu/start/publications/lafree_dugan_aerial_hijackings.pdf "Using data that combines information from the Federal Aviation Administration, the RAND Corporation and a newly developed database on global terrorist activity, we are able to examine trends in 1,101 attempted aerial hijackings that occurred around the world from 1931 to 2003. We have especially complete information for 828 hijackings that occurred before 1986. Using a rational choice theoretical framework, we use continuous-time survival analysis to estimate the impact of several major counterhijacking interventions on the hazard of differently motivated hijacking attempts and logistic regression analysis to model the predictors of successful hijackings. Some of these interventions use certainty-based strategies of target hardening to reduce the perceived likelihood of success. Others focus on raising the perceived costs of hijacking by increasing the severity of punishment. We also assess which strategies were most effective in deterring hijackers whose major purpose was related to terrorism. We found support for the conclusion that new hijacking attempts were less likely to be undertaken when the certainty of apprehension was increased through metal detectors and law enforcement at passenger checkpoints. We also found that fewer hijackers attempted to divert airliners to Cuba once that country made it a crime to hijack flights. Our results support the contagion view that hijacking rates significantly increase after a series of hijackings closely clustered in time—but only when these attempts were successful. Finally, we found that the policy interventions examined here significantly decreased the likelihood of nonterrorist but not that of terrorist hijackings."

Another title for this study (Nature 462, 911-914 (17 Dec 2009) might be "Why Economists are Dangerous. (Because they understand math)". Note the comparison to financial markets. "Its similarity to financial market models provides a surprising link between violent and non-violent forms of human behaviour." http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091216/full/462836a.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7275//full/nature08631.html "Many collective human activities, including violence, have been shown to exhibit universal patterns. The size distributions of casualties both in whole wars from 1816 to 1980 and terrorist attacks have separately been shown to follow approximate power-law distributions. However, the possibility of universal patterns ranging across wars in the size distribution or timing of within-conflict events has barely been explored. Here we show that the sizes and timing of violent events within different insurgent conflicts exhibit remarkable similarities. We propose a unified model of human insurgency that reproduces these commonalities, and explains conflict-specific variations quantitatively in terms of underlying rules of engagement. Our model treats each insurgent population as an ecology of dynamically evolving, self-organized groups following common decision-making processes. Our model is consistent with several recent hypotheses about modern insurgency is robust to many generalizations, and establishes a quantitative connection between human insurgency, global terrorism and ecology. Its similarity to financial market models provides a surprising link between violent and non-violent forms of human behaviour." "The researchers collected data on the timing of attacks and number of casualties from more than 54,000 events across nine insurgent wars, including those fought in Iraq between 2003 and 2008 and in Sierra Leone between 1994 and 2003. By plotting the distribution of the frequency and size of events, the team found that insurgent wars follow an approximate power law, in which the frequency of attacks decreases with increasing attack size to the power of 2.5. That means that for any insurgent war, an attack with 10 casualties is 316 times more likely to occur than one with 100 casualties (316 is 10 to the power of 2.5)."