snowmman

Snowmman - was that meant to be funny or are you DEAD serious. All I have is an email informing me of his death. I do not get the West Coast news here in this small southern town. The media in the South reporting little regarding Cooper in 1971 - is one thing I believe may have resulted in NO one pointing a finger at a possible suspect. I am dead serious. It happened after I posted that youtube video from JFK talking about Duane and Flight 305. Watch it again. I always assumed that everyone posting here, their days are numbered...I didn't realize they'd work from the outlier involvers first. Maybe just to scare us?

good one 377. I really liked that report, supposedly from a Tiger friend, where he said Tiger called and said he was in rush, had to go to Zale's and get a "Kobe Special". Friend asks "What's a Kobe Special?" Tiger: "House on a finger..."

Jo reported "I forgot to tell you all that I was iinformed last night about the death of Richard Tosaw - author of Dead or Alive." Murdered.

Tell us more about your experiences with Icelandic culture Snowmman. I reread that Harpers article about Iceland that Orange posted the link to. If their economy is that screwed you really should go there for a visit. 377 Ok ..no shit. So I'm hanging with Quentin Tarantino, right, trying to pitch a Cooper flick to him...guns, Weber, women, South Africa, gold...dirt landing 727s...the whole thing. And people had said he likes to party. So I'm thinking How the hell am I going to show Quentin Tarantino a good time? So I say to myself "Iceland". I figure I get him there on a Friday night and the deal is done, right? This was like a while back, before I heard of DZ.com, back when Snowmman Industries had to shave the edges off quarters to stay in business. You think I'm bullshitting you? He couldn't stop talking about the trip afterwards. he was on Late Night with Conan, and he was talking about the trip. http://www.grapevine.is/Home/ReadArticle/Quentin-Tarantino-You-Should-Work-for-the-Icelandic-Tourist-Board But man, he never called back about the treatment. And I gave him a cell phone loaded with numbers. Not just one set of twins. Two! Quentin: You Suck! Excerpt from the link: Quentin: Exactly. And man, oh man, oh man, I almost can’t imagine New Year’s anywhere else after that. Because like one: Icelanders, they go and they drink like crazy any old way, but on New Year’s, they lose their minds, in particularly the women lose their minds and like drink like crazy and I remember we were in this club with all these drunken girls, and this one girl was like you know, [Morticia Addams accent] “Oh man, I’m so embarrassed about Icelandic women, they always go out, and they always drink way too much, and make complete fools out of themselves.” Well right at the moment after she said that, a drunken girl walks by and does a face plant – BAM! – right in front of us. Conan: So women are falling, and the women – Quentin: No, but see here’s the thing, though. That’s the female perspective, alright? The non-Icelandic male perspective is, I’m in a room full of supermodels who are drunk out of their mind standing up on a table [stands up and begins to pump fist], “Let’s get the party started! Let’s get the party started!” (Laughter, applause) You know, where have I been all my life? This is the place to be! Conan: But the women there, I’m told that the women there – Quentin: Supermodels working in McDonalds! That’s what you got going on there, and they’re drunk, and not only that, you know, in America – Conan: I’m surprised they don’t get you to do their tourist board commercial. “There’s supermodels everywhere and they’re at McDonalds and they’re all drunk!” [Boris Badinov accent] “Come to Iceland.” Quentin: Come to Iceland! Brought to you by the Icelandic Tourist Board. But you know it’s funny because normally in America, the idea is to get the girls drunk enough to go home with you? In Iceland, you get the girls home before they get so drunk that they’re passing out in your bathroom, or vomiting all over you. That’s the trick.

There. Now I'm Hahneman. Ah refreshing, kind of like cross-dressing. In Iceland. On a Friday night.

Farf: search the thread on Hahneman You'll love the photos of Hahneman I published. The details of his jump (and the stuff he asked for) is pretty interesting. His personal life too, and military connection (civilan contractor/vietnam) (I think he's dead or in prison still though? I don't think I resolved him) Georger goes off about McCoy and Cooper. Why doesn't Georger go off about Hahneman and Cooper? G? why don't you show Hahneman some love? He's close to Cooper in a lot of ways...like starting with age!

Farf, you missed two. Trivia points if you can name the jumping hijacker who's not in prison and still alive.

Poser. search the thread, it's here. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3698410;search_string=Lankenau;guest=64463619#3698410 Duane Weber used to work as a janitor there. He was fired.

I like the little tidbits, like how the recorded conversations are "classified" even though they haven't translated all of them. "I don't know what they were saying, but dammit it wasn't English, and that's proof enough for me!" hell I don't know what's up with Zazi. All I know is the volume of rhetoric by our government, seems to be more criminal than any facts released so far. People forget so quickly, that no bomb was found. Yeah there's the stuff in Colorado, and it's still unclear what he was doing. But enough time goes by, and people are going to just start remembering he was part of 9/11.

Higher altitude, and there are a couple stories like this one, but I like this one because, being Russian, he returned to flying within 3 months. Nyet Problem! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Chisov Ivan Mikhailovich Chisov was a Soviet Airforce Lieutenant who is notable for surviving a fall of nearly 22,000 feet (6 700 meters). Lieutenant Chisov was a Soviet Airforce Lieutenant on an Ilyushin Il-4 bomber. In January of 1942, German fighters attacked his bomber, forcing him to bail out at an altitude of approximately 22,000 feet. With the battle still raging around him, Lt. Chisov intentionally did not open his parachute, since he feared that he would just be an easy target for an angry German while he was dangling from his parachute harness. He planned on dropping below the level of the battle, and then, once he was out of sight of the German fighters, he would open his chute and land safely. However, he lost consciousness on the way down, and was unable to pull the rip cord. Miraculously, he was not killed. He hit the edge of a snowy ravine at an estimated speed of somewhere between 120 and 150 mph, then slid, rolled, and plowed his way down to the bottom. He suffered spinal injuries and a broken pelvis, but was able to fly again three months later.

So I had this idea after reading the news about Zazi. Those permits for coffee carts in New York City are damn hard to come by. Better than a hack license, or a license for a horse cart around Central Park. Better than a salmon fishing license. So I figured I'd visit him in prison and work a deal to buy it off him. I mean, what's he going to do with it now? He's done. So I go there, and I brought a coffee, with a plastic stirrer on Georger's recommendation. And I get there, and after they strip search me and I explain my intentions. They say, "Haven't you heard? there's more charges". Dec. 3. “It is likely there will be additional charges,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Knox told a federal judge today in a hearing in Brooklyn, New York. “Our anticipation is that we will be seeking a superseding indictment.” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a0hqwiaSWvqw "Prosecutors said in court papers that Zazi conspired with at least three others. Knox said previously that the evidence against Zazi is “voluminous” and “the conspiracy here is international in scope.” Classified Evidence Knox told Dearie today that the government’s evidence includes recorded conversations from court-authorized wiretaps that are classified. He said some of those conversions haven’t been translated from Pashto, Arabic and Dari, an Afghan language. After Zazi drove from Denver to New York in early September, he attempted to assemble the bomb, prosecutors said. " So that's news, if they're saying he actually attempted to assemble some bomb. If he did, where is it? I've never heard of them finding any bomb or bomb components. Is it still out there? Probably. Probably has some kind of time delay fuse on it? "The case is U.S. v. Zazi, 09-cr-00663, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn). " Additionally, it's been discovered that the real Al-Qaeda problem is in the U.S. There are known communist sympathizers now loyal to Al-Qaeda. "Al-Qaeda followers are inside the United States and would like to attack targets here and in other countries, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday night. " "The fact is that home-based terrorism is here. And like violent extremism abroad, it is now part of the threat picture that we must confront," Napolitano said. "Individuals sympathetic to al-Qaeda and its affiliates, as well as those inspired by their ideology, are present in the U.S., and would like to attack the homeland or plot overseas attacks against our interests abroad." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120204062.html?hpid=moreheadlines Lock and load, folks. Our interests abroad are under attack.

Even Angel Udell? Tina too? Is there nothing sacred? This is deeply unsettling. Don't rob us of our precious illusions Snowmman. 377 It's great how Tina provides a needed element of the story. I think you're right. She provides the virgin mary aspect. Duane Weber once went to the Virgin Islands. They are now called The Islands.

Except Duane Weber. And Chuck Norris. Some kids piss their names into snow. Duane Weber could piss his name into concrete.

Why does anyone say anything? The proof is here in the posters. The problem is you're holding H. to some higher standard. He's just a B.S. artist. remember the conversation sluggo had with him? Everyone involved is a b.s. artist!...well not artist, because they're bad at it. b.s. pretender? Duane was the only one good at b.s. Duane was the best!

I have been severely damaged by Jo. I'm looking to file claims. Is there insurance that covers this?

scratching my head about who's loonier, jo or georger. georger complains a lot about Jo, but then he actually goes and does stuff.. Hey I just realized Chuck Norris was a Texas Ranger. Chuck Norris never had to hijack an airplane.

While I was up at those two old forest fire lookout tires, I got startled one time when I turned around and there was this old guy...just like 20 feet away...He wasn't facing me, wasn't looking at me, wasn't saying anything. Which seems ordinary, except this was like in the middle of nowhere and I hadn't seen anyone for miles. In fact for 2 days. So I say "Howdy". And he turns, kind of acting like he didn't know I was there. And he says "Howdy"...And we look at each other for a while. Waiting for the other to go first. So I take my chances and say "I found a Duane Weber graffiti". And he says "Yep". Another 2 minute pause. So I figure I'd roll the dice and ask "Why did Duane do it?" And he looked at me like I was stupid. He bent to pick up a paper bag at his feet, and started to walk off. He hesitated, turned and this is exactly what he said: "Cause they paved paradise and put up some damn lookout towers" With that he was off, but I couldn't keep up with him thru the thick blackberry bushes. My legs were scratched to hell, but that was it, he was gone.

JFK discussed Flight 305 and Duane Weber specifically, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3T3gWKURc8&feature=related JFK confirms everything Jo has said. The only other possibility was that he was discussing US govt in the 21st century. But that's not possible because he would have to predict the future. It's more clearly related to Duane Weber and the Rogue Rangers. Hmm..how come it sounds just as prescient today, as it did in 1961? Eisenhower's speech is interesting to see also. I had never seen the actual video, or seen an Eisenhower speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd8wwMFmCeE

Good cat happyt! Good summary Georger. Hey Georger, like it or not, maybe you're the historian!

In the '60s, smokejumpers would yell "Duane Weber" when they jumped. If you forgot, you had to buy everyone beer. The story was, that Duane Weber invented the way they were all required to tie their shoelaces. The special threading/knot was optimal for not catching branches. It was called "The Weber" Duane used to brag about how this was named after him. Curiously, he never used "The Weber" when he tied his own shoes. Said that was an era he had to forget about. Too many bad memories about shoelaces.

There is actually an oversupply of Duane Webers, thousands of them. It is the Jo Webers that are in short supply. Whether that is a problem or blessing is open to debate. Without a Jo, a Duane Weber is of no material significance. 377 Interesting. What if Jo latched onto the wrong one? What if the better one to latch onto is a friend of Duane Weber. Since you can get to almost anyone in 5 or so hops, starting with Duane Weber is fine. Jo just needs to traverse out a bit. (edit) New bumper sticker: "More Duane Than Duane" $5.

It'd be interesting to send smoke jumpers in as combat troops. Kind of human napalm bombs? They could set backfires and stuff. Imagine if a bunch of guys parachuted into major cities and just ran around setting things on fire. Not bombs. Just regular fires. Burn, baby, burn. (edit) Of course, a dangerous job like this, you'd need life insurance. Provided by Duane Weber, at a reasonable cost.

interesting background, 377. Could the "Rogue Rangers" have had a common interest in comic books? I'm wondering if the name for the group, and the use of "Dan Cooper" may have stemmed from a a common comic book interest. There was a book published recently "Going Rogue" that may be connected.

See...Duane will never let us down. Alive or Dead. The legend of Duane Weber..it's better than the Cooper legend. As long as there is a open web forum somewhere, the stories of Duane Weber will be told and retold. Serving as both inspiration and warning. We need more Duane Webers.

I knew a guy named Duane Weber when I was a kid. He was fearless. The first time I rode passenger in a car going 120mph was with Duane at the wheel. Duane always gave us kids free smokes and matches. "Just don't say where you got them, kid" he'd say. Told us a story once where he fought his way out of a bar, and didn't even get a scratch. When we asked about everyone else, he just smiled. Said he went back to the bar the next night and sung Sinatra tunes. No one said a word. Said guys could point out any woman in the bar, and she'd be on his arm within an hour. Told us he'd been in every prison west of the Mississippi at least twice, busted out of every prison east of the Mississippi at least once. Been in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, and spent a night in the brig in all of them. He said he could build an airplane from a busted up jeep, skin a bear with a pointed stick, and walk 50 miles in the woods just smelling where he was going. He knew everyone and everything. Duane could walk in a bank and the tellers would give him money just because they knew he deserved it more than anyone else. But he never needed any money. He'd give us dollar bills, laughing "there's plenty more were that came from". He told us he'd run for Governer and win, but then they'd have to put him in jail, and you can't have a Governer in jail. So he wouldn't run no matter what people said. Duane: he was the greatest.