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Wow. I thought nothing...literally NOTHING....could be more senseless and idiotic than your rants about 9/11 but I was wrong. My god man! Do you do nothing but sit around and think up stupid shit to post??? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

hmmm, Interesting. Do you guys still think 'freedom of the press' is still relevant? or has corporate sponsorship and greed skewed what we are allowed to be told? You have information that contradicts what is being reported? If so, please share. We would love to hear it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Of course they coexisted. Haven't you ever seen the Jurrasic Park movies? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"These go to eleven." HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39383881/ns/sports-baseball/ Blatant disregard for human life should carry the same penalty whether sober with a gun or drunk with a car. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Your one warning. (oops! Sorry, Bill. Didn't mean to step on your toes. ) HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, but she will make more than a lazy one. The answer to the question depends entirely on the job. Many jobs do pay more for working harder, many do not. But, in the end, the pay is pretty much whatever somebody is willing to put out for getting the job done. Who works harder for their money; the $5000 a night prostitute or the $100 a trick one? Who worked harder in the past to get where they are? Who knows? I sure don't. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, but she will make more than a lazy one. The answer to the question depends entirely on the job. Many jobs do pay more for working harder, many do not. But, in the end, the pay is pretty much whatever somebody is willing to put out for getting the job done. Who works harder for their money; the $5000 a night prostitute or the $100 a trick one? Couldn't tell you. I never had a $5000/night prostitute . But it's a pretty sure bet both are getting the maximum the market will pay for their services. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, but she will make more than a lazy one. The answer to the question depends entirely on the job. Many jobs do pay more for working harder, many do not. But, in the end, the pay is pretty much whatever somebody is willing to put out for getting the job done. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

funny... the tech writers in our group have all referred to themselves as interpreters as well. That's pretty much their job. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'd say that the tech writers take the process from the engineers (or the mechanics that worked with the engineers) and put it in terms that normal English speaking people can understand. Depending on application, the tech writer can work more closely with the engineers or the technicians depending upon expected audience. Usually a document must be approved by r&d, manufacturing, applications, service, marketing, etc. before being released. Rarely is a document ever released after review by just one department. I work a great deal with both engineering departments and field service departments since I had many years of experience in the field before ever going to college and getting my degree. Once in a while I get called in to act as an interpreter between evaluators in the field and the engineers who are trying to work with them. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You don't know about US Const impeachment and I don't have a clue? Good one. As for N Korea, another lame example set from you, rather than evaluate the US with the rest of the world, you drag one of the worst countries out. Clear you don't have an argument. That's funny. You claim the 16th somehow makes the government possessor of my income, yet you can't show where. You make claims with no data to back them up then, when challenged, insist upon data and statistics from others to disprove your WAGs. Yeah, my buddy Lucky. Always good for a laugh.

One case study used at Harvard and other MBA programs: Lincoln Electric's incentive management program. It involves piecework and a guaranteed employment program plus other attributes that all work together. Easy to show how working harder leads to less pay: Union jobs. Work hard, job gets done...but you get laid off. Sandbag it and stretch it out as long as possible you get paid for a few more weeks, maybe even long enough to jump right onto the next job. Or this: The more you work the more you earn and the higher tax bracket you jump into so each hour you work you get to take home a little bit less than the hour preceeding it. It even works in negative numbers! Don't work=no income=the government GIVES you money! Welfare is so monetarily puny that few think it's a good idea. Very few %-wise are chronic welfare recipients, most use it as a step-out of it. Show your case studt rather than, "one study." Illustrate how unionization is laziness vs non-unionization by objective data. Here ye go, Francis. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1000155,00.html If you want the actual case study you will have to buy/get it from a business school just like everyone else does. It is the role of the unions to protect their jobs at all costs, even if it means slowing down production and hurting their employer. This works in the unions favor in the short term but, as has been proven out in this recession, it kills business and JOBS in the long term. It may come as a surprise, but it is in everyones best interest for a company to eliminate jobs through technology. Using advances in technology and more efficient manufacturing methods, products can be made less expensive and with higher quality. This enables more people to buy them and drives up demand. To meet demand manufacturers must hire additional people to produce the needed product. This is an direct competition with the goals of the unions. Want an example of union vs nonunion production you can see for yourself? Go visit a construction site under union contract. Pay attention to how many people are working vs those just hanging around doing pretty much nothing. Then go visit a comparable site using non-union contractors. Notice how everyone is busy and how the shovels can stand up by themselves (the unions still haven't figured that one out). Now, are you ready to move? I have next weekend available and will even bring a couple folks from this forum to help get you packed up and on your way to your new home where the temple priests have taken care of everything...the words you read, the songs you sing, the pictures that give pleasure to your eye. :) Me...I will stay here and provide for myself and give graciously to the charities and people I see fit to give to. Which, by the way, is on the order of 10k-15k per year. And, no, that is not my taxes. Most is non-deductable also. How much do you give? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Nope, you haven't a clue. Why wait 'til you have a miilion bucks? North Korea will make sure you have everything you need, just like you want the government here to do. You won't need the money. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

One case study used at Harvard and other MBA programs: Lincoln Electric's incentive management program. It involves piecework and a guaranteed employment program plus other attributes that all work together. Easy to show how working harder leads to less pay: Union jobs. Work hard, job gets done...but you get laid off. Sandbag it and stretch it out as long as possible you get paid for a few more weeks, maybe even long enough to jump right onto the next job. Or this: The more you work the more you earn and the higher tax bracket you jump into so each hour you work you get to take home a little bit less than the hour preceeding it. It even works in negative numbers! Don't work=no income=the government GIVES you money! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Oh no no no Lucky...not a typing error since the keys are not next to one another. Your definition, not mine...remember? You have no clue as to what an engineer does, do you? Not all engineers spend their time behind a desk. Some of us are actually hands-on performing tasks much more difficult than following an instruction book on pulling "manding gear" (whatever that is) from an aircraft. Who do you think designed that "manding gear" and developed the procedure for R&R? Engineers, that's who. If it were left up to people like you to write the procedures we would have wrenches everywhere destroying aircraft because they didn't understand the implications of many of their actions that they thought were harmless. Sorry you don't understand the 16th. It does not claim anywhere that the money I earn belongs to the government, it only empowers congress to levy taxes. If my earning DID belong to the government we would have no need for an ammendment granting congress such power, would we? Remember, my offer to help you move to a country more suited to your ideals is still on the table. North Korea comes to mind. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Oh, you mean like the half of my left pinky that was eaten by a Cincinatti shear? Or the 15% of my skin that was boiled off by a ruptured steam line? Or maybe the countless stitches from countless cuts from working with sharp sheet metal for over 30 years? Or to permanent damage to my corneas from weld flash? You mean those scars? Spare us your "poor working man" bullshit. Most people on this forum are in the same boat, Francis. BTW, as i have stated before, I am no expert in aircraft, but I have never heard of "manding gear". care to tell us what that is? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Here inlies your vast misunderstanding: THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH TRICKLE DOWN IS THAT THE RICH POCKET IT AND DON'T SPEND IT; THE GOV DEFINATELY WILL. When cash fails to circulate, that is the essence in a general sense, of a recession. The rich hoard it, which I don't blame them for, the gov spends it creating constant stimulus. Spending it does benefit us, hoarding it ices eveything. They pocket it? Do you know how ridiculous that notion is?? Where do they keep it? In a safe? In a mattress? Un mason jars buried in the ground? Where???? Problem with government spending is that a very significant percentage of it is wasted and helps nobody, i.e. unneeded military buildup. As much as you hate the military spending, you sure want the g-men to get as much of my money as they can so they can spend even more on military buildup. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Pretty amazing country, isn't it? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I don't care if they're wages, investment income, capital gains or any other form of income, the 16th allows the gov to tax all of us; move to Montana or sit there in denial, I really don't care. C'mon Mr. KnowItAll, show me where it saiys my earnings belong to the government. Time to back up your mouth. That's Communism, I don't expect a neo-con to understand the vast difference, perhaps take a trip to Communist Canada before it gets too cold since you don't know the difference. Uh, Mr. KnowItAll, Canada is not a communist state. Far from it. Princess, my hands are riddled with scars, cuts and grease right now in the fingernails; you are clearly barking at the wrong person here. Last week I remover the manding gear out of a 737 and I don't wear gloves. Scan your princess-manicured nails and post them. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. That is a moot point. The question is, if you are unemployed, what jobs are you willing to work? I've done everything from steam cleaning the inside of cattle trailers to cleaning out septic tanks to make ends meet and keep me off the government tit. Riiiiight, we get that brief response. You vote for R's or L's = sociopaths. You don't know who I voted for so we'll just chalk you responses up to trolling. All you have to do is ask for data that doesn't exist, whereas a massive mountain of data exists that when taxes are low, the debt soars, unemp flys and growth slows, and that's since at least the FDR admin. But you want specific data that doesn't exist; typical cop-out. Just explain why the afformentioned occurs. Yep, you're guessing. Not sure that is really more than a vastly mushy, totally indirect answer, but in a way it's right, at least conceptually. So explain why you, the real Amrercan, wants to starve the US Gov, hence the people and hurt America. Are you a terrist (intentional misspelling for conservatives)? Why not advocate for America and as Kennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but whatyou can do for your country." Paying enough taxes to keep her well is being a true American versus a typical nationalist which is all we get from the RW. I am willing to do my fair share for my country, but that doesn't include paying for lazy people to suck off the public tit just because they don't want to work or feel some jobs are beneath them. Your definition of a true America is one of a socialist state where everybody is cared for by the government. My defintion is of a country in which everyone is given the same chance to prosper...but there are no guarrantees of success. Let me guess...you are one of those people who think every child playing soccer should get a trophy for participating but no trophy is handed out for winning. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Brown people. The US is in the business of killing brown people. Nationallity doesn't matter. Are the yellow people included to, or do you think they got over that during the 50's and 60's, at this rate they'll be onto the whiteys by around 2020.... as there is not defense of canada maybe you guys could peace keep there first During the 40's 50's 60's and part of the 70's we lost track of our mission and started killing yellow people and a few select white people in Germany. After that we got back on track. Canadians? Only when we run out of other people to kill. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Agreed. The solution will be challenging to develop and even harder to implement. But the problem is very simple. A concept which contributes to the problem. What one person feels is a reasonable and adequate standard of living another may find to be appalling and below what they consider minimum for comfort. What one person thinks is minimal another may think is extravagant. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Brown people. The US is in the business of killing brown people. Nationallity doesn't matter. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I feel it is very simple. Taxes need to be at a level to provide a reasonable standard of living for the society that is being taxed. If taxes are raised above that point then the standard of living rises a little, but not enough to justify the increased taxes. If taxes are lowered the standard falls greatly with a small drop in revenue. The problem arises when a reasonable standard of living is reached (such as we have here in the US) and taxes are raised well above the level needed to maintain that standard because irresponsible spending wastes not only the excess revenue, but also dips into the funds needed to maintain a reasonable standard. The, once again, taxes are raised and the process repeats itself. In order for the cycle to be broken we have to STOP raising taxes and STOP wasteful spending. A very high standard of living can be maintained in this country on far less taxes than are currently being collected. Trickle down economics doesn't work regardless of whether the rich man spends the money or the government spends it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Actually, Bill, it really is that simple. It is a very sinmple concept. Infrastructure is needed by any society. As you said, taxes pay for that. So are other services the government provides. But taxes are also used to support millions of people who won't work. Taxes are used to house and pamper criminals who enjoy a better standard of living than our poor. Taxes are used to pay into retirement programs for public employees that are not available to the general public. Taxes are used to pay retirement to elected officials after they serve only a few years. These are just a few examples of many that could be eliminated so the government could operate more efficiently and keep taxes down to a reasonable level for everyone. I abhore wasteful spending. Governments, especially the US Federal government, are cesspools of wasteful spending. If you want to give the government more money in addition to city income tax, state income tax, federal income tax, plus all property taxes, sales taxes, etc, ...go right ahead. That is your right. Just don't expect everyone else to be overjoyed when you ask them to do the same. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.