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Yeah, I'm sure there is a big line..

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...maybe this should go to PM's........

*** In my humble opinion, "going in" is NEVER a "cool thing" to do! I agree......but look at the number of deaths recently on wingsuit-BASE jumps

This was a BASE jump (note no bag/ big PC) and going in on wingsuit jumps is the "cool thing" to do nowadays...

No? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3086729#3086729

But did YOU get to vote?...or the people who represent you.

Skypuppy, this may be too personal of a question but did you vote for or against impeaching Clinton?

No it doesn't....but there are right and wrong ways of going about it. No, but I am not a lawyer. There was an issue several year ago where a BOD member gave information to a lawyer about a DZ that he had a personal vendetta with, In fact it was very similar as 95% of the USPA members was against the particular DZ. The outcome was that the DZO won and probably could have shut the USPA down there due to Anti-trust laws......but he only counter-sued for $1. I agree, but there are ways about going about it. Maybe clarity will come from the hearings... once again, I agree....but you have read the lawsuit and there are proper ways about going about getting rid of somebody in your organization....

You agree with the anti-trust statements she made on a public forum as a member of the BOD? Once again, I agree with most of what she says, BUT a member of the BOD can't try and take down business because of their ethics? If that was the case, there are seveal other DZ's who should be shut down for taking underage AFF's, doing RW with two tandem pairs, and breaking other BSR's or decieving their customers, not to mention other issues..... The general skydiving population is JUST as stuck in the good ol' boy network as the BOD members are...

J, my words are there to get people to think and examine. I know you are one of the few people here who have educated yourself on the skyride issue. Unfortunately, I think many people here don't know the details, nor do I know ALL the details. But I am not blindly backing one side or the other. I think Jan has done a lot to help the "common" skydiver. That however does not allow her free range to actively pursue shutting down a business. (even if they deceived their customers) When you hold a public seat, there are rules and regulations that you are held to. There are many other people in this forum that have found out how government works recently.

This sounds like another Farm incident.... "I have electronics in my pocket,I have electronics in my pocket!" shim shim shimal

off topic..... I had a friend who every thursday went to a homeless shelter and fed the poor. He also took two foster kids in who were beaten and abused. Then he raised money for the elderly to put them in proper care.... A year later he was convicted of robbing a bank and shot a teller in the process.. Good guy or bad guy? discuss..

Kind of ironic that the "good ol' boy network" is working on BOTH sides. Side 1: We do what we want and screw the people who don't like what we are doing and have no power against us. Side 2: We will stick by our friend no matter what they cost the organization, the members, or any settlements. Both sides are at fault. e.d.u.c....nevermind

I can see how it would be frustrating to receive 30 emails a day from people complaining about stuff they know little about and 2-3 from people with educated concerns/ issues. But they did sign up for that and that is why they get paid the big bucks!

If the USPA faces more litigation because they don't impeach Jan, your 1000 emails won't change their vote. In the lawsuit against USPA you don't see Glenn's name in there as much as somebody elses.... It's weird that the people who want to hang whoever was responsible for the skyride lawsuit, also are defending Jan.....tough to do both

And that is 10 to 15 more than was there the last time. Its a start. And hopefully 15-30 at the next and 30-60 at the one after that. I think at the next meeting we should put this on the agenda: New Business: A. $10 per jump tax for any jump out of a turbine I bet that would move people to action.

Thanks J.....I know you, and you know me. Like I said I applaud everybody who is doing something, not just talking/ bitching about it. Thank you for taking an active stance on this. Unfortunately, I don't plan on seeing more than 10-15 people who post/ bitch on DZ.com there...

Just a general question to everybody. 1. How many of you have ever been to any BOD, S&TA, Gen Membership, DZO, or group membership meeting held by the USPA? 2. Have you read the lawsuit that was brought against the USPA by Skyride? 3. Have you ever contacted your RD for any reason? 4. Do you even vote in the USPA elections? I have been to a couple meetings where the only people that were there were the BOD, whoever was looking for a waiver to something in the SIMS, and Jm/I's who were facing disciplinary actions for violating the rules of the USPA. It is sad how many people will sit here and judge what happens at the USPA meetings but don't bother attending or doing anything about it. I think Skyride started with a brilliant idea that got out of hand by greed. Trust me, I think they are blood sucking leeches nor do I agree with everything that the USPA is doing. I applaud those who are going to Orlando, but have no respect for those who talk on these forums and don't do anything to change it. If you don't bother to educate yourself on the facts, vote/ speak to your RD about your opinion, or do ANYTHING to change it..than you are just wasting posts here.

I agree with this comment 100%..........BUT From strictly a business point of view, (no emotions, no skydiver way of thinking) what was said in a public forum from a member of the USPA BOD's was very damaging. Just my opinion, but you see what the final outcome was.....

No, her comments in a public forum was one of the primary reasons a lawsuit was brought against USPA....

Does it have anything to do with how many times her name was mentioned in the lawsuit against the USPA?............

I got through all 32 levels then to level 5 again. 17,000 points. Towards the end it is more about getting lucky than skill.... (did I just say skill on brickbreaker?) ...I guessed I traveled a little less than Isaiah last year!!

Sorry I can't help you out J...She never answers my calls after she hooked up with that loser Gavin...

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