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I will go and read some (man, there is a lot and my reading for a MS in counsleing is consuming me now) However, I doubt little if anything I read there will change what I "know" in my spirit to be true. I came to a relationship with Christ, not through ancient writings of semantic people,but through a personal encounter with Christ. I realize to you and many others this will sound weird, and most likely be misinterpreted, but Christ is a real to me as my wife and kids. I'd no more disbelieve Christ is real based on your plethora of atheists links than I would to disbelieve my family exist because your authors stated so. steveOrino

I see your point to a degree, but I don't get upset with Islam because fundamental muslims are killing people. I don't agree with the tenents of Islamic faith, but I'm quick to separate the wackos from the general mass of Muslims. steveOrino

Actually, from a biblical standpoint ... Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. steveOrino

You know, I never get worked up over belief systems I don't believe in, ie, Islam, Hinduism, etc. I see so many agnostic/atheist in SC that get their panties all in a wad over Christianity. Perhaps they personally have been offended by judgmental Christians, or what they interpret as governmental intervention into religion. Whatever, the case I find it insightful that they care that much about something they don't believe in. My faith in Christ is personal, and effects me tremendoulsy. While I have a MS in Theology I don't spend my days trying to convince myself, let alone other people, that what I believe is 100% true. To be honest, what I believe today is not excatly what I believed 10-20 years ago. The essence is still the same, but I'm quick to realize I don't have all the answers. My faith (or death denial as some psychologists have called it) has sustained me in times of great turmoil. I wish all people had the experience I have had with Christ. I wish fewer have had the experiences I have had with some of his so called followers. /speech ... peace! steveOrino

DZ Comic (and SDA) had a visitor yesterday. Check it out. www.dzonline.info steveOrino

I passed, and he din't feel my balls. All in all a good day. steveOrino

I'm the guy Keith (Bigun) referred to. I was 46 when I started back jumping (3 years military static line 1977-1980) Presently I have 1028 jumps, videographer, coach, and getting my tandem rating. I'm NOT 50!! (I'm 51 ) Good luck! You're never too old to be young again! steveOrino

I've had mixed results with cat crap. It works ... most of the time. steveOrino

AsI said in a PM. If you're looking for a cool graphic design, I'm your man.

Gary, What type of pie was THAT?? steveOrino

Way to go Gary! Did you do anything special for the 1000th? steveOrino

For a cam eye 2 it will need a lanc port. If it doesn't have one, you can use the old Cam Eye 1 steveOrino

Yeah, but you still have to live in Denmark! steveOrino

Then why go there? The enemy has taken so much from us, but we still have the ability to choose to do the right thing. steveOrino

I understand completely your reasoning, and agree it may (or may not) have the effect you think it would. My point is, most Americans would have a difficult time adopting the "jihad mentality" and waging war with no regard for "rules of engagement" and the common decency of man. While we were never innocent of war crimes in WW2 and Viet Nam, we seldom carried out the same type of atrocities the Nazis did to the Jews or the Japenese and Vietnamese did to POWs. I admit war is a terrible thing, but it is often carried out by men (and women) of noble character. General Powell comes to mind. steveOrino

While part of me says that might work and might feel right to some, I think the average US soldier is more noble than that. Not that there aren't exceptions, but I remember a story about an SF soldier in Desert Storm who should have killed a little girl because she compromised their position. He couldn't bring himself to do it even though his own life and the lives of his A-team might might depend on it. Apart from a few whackos and those pyschologically disturbed by this war, I believe that describes the average US soilder's mentality -- they're soldiers not terrorists. steveOrino

A kenko will not be blurry, (I have 2 of those) but a Diamond 0.3 will. I will try what Matt said to see if that works. I do know if you merely put the Diamond 0.3 on set the camera with sport or landscape setting it will be blurry. I lost a coach jump video I did that way by assuming it would work just as the Kenko did. steveOrino

In Reply To ------------------------------------------------------------ Your statement is woefully ignorant. My brothers made it through college. My dad was anything but rich. So did my wife and daughter. I earned a BS and MS without the GI bill. I'm earning another MA without benefit of it either. You obviously talk to many whining Americans who would rather complain than get off their butt and do something about their lives.If I were you I'd lay off the comments about our military or educational system, because you obviously do not have insight to either. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, Skyrad's statement is clearly not fully informed. But that is what I love about SC. People speak with such authority on subjects they have no knowledge of. steveOrino

Lord, I know that. I was on a SADM team (Special Atomic Demolition Munitions) in Special Forces. I was only trying to see where he'd draw the line with "war is war, suck it up" mantra. steveOrino

But you were so eloquent in your statement! I thought that was what I was doing? Silly me! steveOrino

Your statement is woefully ignorant. My brothers made it through college. My dad was anything but rich. So did my wife and daughter. I earned a BS and MS without the GI bill. I'm earning another MA without benefit of it either. You obviously talk to many whining Americans who would rather complain than get off their butt and do something about their lives.If I were you I'd lay off the comments about our military or educational system, because you obviously do not have insight to either. steveOrino

Bill, by your reasoning we have the right to kill 2000 innocent people in one swift attack to retaliate against the terrorist. What has 9/11 got to do with Iraq? Nothing. I never said it did. Bil brought up that analogy. I simply want to know to what limit will YOU say war is war, suck it up? steveOrino

But you are saying it was okay, right? Based on your reply, right? steveOrino

Bill, by your reasoning we have the right to kill 2000 innocent people in one swift attack to retaliate against the terrorist. steveOrino

I'm only asking to what limits will he say "war is war, suck it up" So, Jamile, what is your limit? steveOrino