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Ive also heard many a rigger state things. Id be more interested in a SINGLE account of sayd occurance....accident report...video? A pilotchute at bridle-stretch, pulling a pin, and somehow having that Dbag jump past the actual force which is pulling it out of the container in the first place.. Sayd the messiah of wingsuit flying.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

So now its one rigger explaining it in detail...what happened to 'any rigger' being able to explain it? As (WOULD a NORMAL/ 1 on 1 /standard horseshoe situation ever happen) too small a pilotchute, too short a bridle, bad pull/throw, too wide a loop, hanging onto a pilotchute too long etc etc. stilll seem like more likely culprit/causes for ANY type of malfunction in this direction. And PLEASE do (again) provide us with a single case or even remotely vague description on when and what happened. As so far it all sounds a bit to internet-y.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Neeh...just 5:00 Am and fresh back from the windtunnel. But if thats a dig at needing to jump more and post less...mr fulltime jumper..Im only jumping in weekends from small planes and in cold shitty weather at tiny dropzones. Yet still manage to pass you in terms currency with regards to jumpnumbers Less fantasy malffunctions and more real ones! jump damnit JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

The subject of horse-shoe malfucntions? Pins being pulled before the pilotchute is released.... NOT your bag climbing/overtaking the pilotchute which pulled the pin out. If people are hanging on to their pilotchute long enough for the bridle to completely catch wind and pull the Dbag out, or have a closingloop soo loose the container can just open, thats a whole other issue more related to someones poor actions or taking care of his/her gear. Horseshoe malls have happened to every single type of rig..cut corners or not. Stop referencing stuff which isnt reference for the subject your making up man JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Sound more like one of your famous cryptic "Im saying something without actually saying something" kinda posts. I might not understand the differences between basegear and skydiving gear as well as you seem to think you do.. But I do know if you (by some force or reason) pull the pins or velcro on a baserig, and you are still holding the pilotchute in your hand/pulling after the shit has come out (CLASSIC HORSE SHOE..SAME AS SKYDIVING..COVERED IN EVERY STANDARD SKYDIVING EDUCATION) you have the same horse-shoe kinda malfunction posibilities as on skydiving gear. There was a deadly acident with this during a demo with basegear in exactly this way just a few months back. But thats an out of sequence deployment. Not having the pilotchute catching wind, and the bag (or bagless canopy) leaving first. Thats still so many miles away from your bag/main 'overtaking' the pilotchute on a normal opening. Thats just NOT possible unless you are jumping a pull-out system, and hanging on to the pilotchute for half a minute longer. Pointing out the IMPORTANT wingsuit mods and tweaks..and not go on and on about something which is a non-issue.. Then give people known facts, instead of your own fancy theory, which is nothing more than taking a NORMAL HORSESHOE malfunction (with method of pulling and/or pin-tension being the most likely cause) and coming up with some non-reality based reason why cut corners should be causing these... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I can see a normal horse-shoe situation (thats covered in every single skydiving course worldwide) in the description you linked to. A pilotchute still in hand, with a pin already pulled out due to relative wind tugging on a big fat bridle (on a normal skydive, where the bridle isnt in a burble of a wingsuit). But thats not the situation you mention. You are constantly talking about a Dbag overtaking the pilotchute (which is the very thing PULLING IT OUT). This is just physicaly impossible.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Now explain to me how that has anything to do with the problems you mention? He mentions a pin that has been pulled when the pilotchute is IN YOUR HAND. The scenario you describe has a Dbag magically overtaking the pilotchute. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Am I the only one completely missing the point on that framegrab you just posted? Its a pilotchute at bridle extention, pulling a canopy out. At no point does the canopy overtake the pilotchute. Even though the lines are just laid down in the packing tray, they stay there intill pulled out/tight. An added Dbag (and some more altitude) would have added stowed lines to that one. Making your scenario even more unlikely.. If you want to talk potential issues. Talk to a local (dutch) rigger who put a packingmat on top of a reserve pilotchute before pulling it (in his loft) and thus concluded the wings of a classic wrapped around the reserve container (which to this day doesnt even work with some of the biggest suits..wrapping the container) caused a (percieved) delay the guy thought he felt in his reserve opening. its PHANTOM issues..nobody ever experienced it...think long and hard, and everyone can come up with some potetial problem. But realistic? And all it does is create shit. One DZO reads what you are saying here, and the next moment Im not allowed onto the plane with my 'wingsuit dangerous' WINGS container? Brilliant stuff.. So far the riggers you told people to ask, have weighed in with answers that dont really confirm what you're saying. A lot of stuff (such as heavy hackeyballs with a single attachment points) cause bridle wraps/knots. And have caused reserve pulls, 2 out situations, and even (in base) death. Going on and on about the cut corners on someones rig, and turning that into a scary thing (for no reality-based reason) seems more important than telling them the actual amount of reserves their type of pilotchute-hackey/ball causes every year. A proper pilotchute should be a bigger part of a wingsuit mod than the cut corners (or reason to get the type of cut corners on your sponsored rig, and not those on other brands) JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Its one thats been asked in roughly one out of every 10 threads. The search function on this forum is a hidden gem.. And you're allowed to use it before and after you reach 200 posts... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Make a lot of jumps and at least (but preferably A LOT more than) the 200 or so FREEFALL jumps generaly recommended as the bare minimum Read the nice article Robert Kelley wrote for some nice things to focus on and keep in mind while learning to fly your body.. http://www.flylikebrick.com/safety-training.php JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Just a small note for all active youtube browsers.. In your account settings, specifiy broadband connection and you always (automaticly) get a SD/HD version of a video if its available.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Awesome item...great footage...and some really nice exposure for the sport! Sweet! When are we doing that Statue of Liberty> Central Park jump! Any list for that one online yet? JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Would love to see the D bag that creates the same amount of drag, as the pilotchute thats already at bridlestretch (since the pin is already pulled). And then (somehow) overtake an inflated pilotchute (which is actually whats pulling the bag out of the no-relative wind/burble area on your back). Does sound like a malfunction very likely to hapen if you pull out a pin, while standing around on the ground. But in the air... Ive heard you tell this one quite a few times..but still never met or heard of anyone that experienced this one.. But if its a message your rig sponsor wants out there...sure thing bob A canopy (on a baserig) seems to have more drag than a D-bag..sure sounds like a malfunction that would be much more likely on basegear if rigs where made with fully open corners there...ooh..wait..they are JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I think a LARGE factor is time and patience.. There was a long, LONG period in skydiving where even just being able to steer, manouvre, and at some point spend an entire jump to get to another person and pass a batton/stick was concidered the most amazing thing ever in terms of skills. And look where the RW people are now. Probably planning the next 500 way. We only just started flying big formations (anything over 4/5 people in an actual defined slot) more recently....the last 8 to 10 years or so? Give it a few years...everybody jumping balls to the walls.. Some stuff can be thought out here..on the couch at home...at the DZ..but I think the most will come from just doing this over and over again. Seeing skills improve more and more.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Tony, that would probably be Uli JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I think most bridles these days are quite long 'standard' My first rig was a Vector2, and the bridle wasnt anything longer than 1,5 meters. With my current bridle length, I could use it to walk the dog while seated on the couch JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Coolcool! Its going to be good seeing your teammates (and you of course) in Empuria! Ludwig is the only person who makes "being chicken" look so damn good! Bigger audience with an English page though! My Swedish is a bit rusty... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Im sure Ill get in trouble for this, but here is a link to a video of THE jump in an awesome ground to air video. Couldnt resist throwing this online for everyone as an Xmas present! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Werent there any of those Russian knock-off suits? Like copied classics and stuff? Those rock! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Ive have used the handmount (with switch, and connecting loop around my wrist) on a few jumps, less danger of killing someone on the ground. See http://www.tunedbyjlo.com/ (brackets and mounts>Camera handmount). JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Your own risk might only be loosing a camera (worst case) but unless that camera is somehow tied/connected to your arm/rig, you are potentialy wrecking someones car-window or skull if the thing ever drops... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I cant speak for james, but for a lot of people the only reason to want to see was to see WHAT was done. See the pretty picture of 71 wingsuits in formation. Be it 100% slotperfect or 99,9% slotperfect. Its just because of wanting to see something awesome...Not to rate it. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Not my hobby...but just to clarify... Its actually not stimulating yourself, but rather just dangling your closest friend against an object or person out of fun/offensive ways.. A well known dutch TM at Teuge is known for his swaffel-actions...never stand at the manifest with your hands behind your back. As when he stands behind you, you'll feel something in your hands, and then have two thumbs appearing left and right of your head.. Only witnessed it..never experienced it...wont say if thats a good or bad thing. Just to keep my image of 'sick and twisted' JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Ferry..shoot Hans Schoeber an email or PM (his knickname is Gadget on here). He also used this one (and tends to litter them across Europe as they fall of his helmet), and seems to know how it works He can also answer you in your own language (if thats still Dutch) Or send an email or PM to costyn through our flylikebrick adres...(he knows that stuff, and is one of those Apple nerds as well) JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Did you know anal sex causes amnesia? JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?