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Playing with yourself too much while not having enough people around for inteligent conversations? Dunno...I give up? DO tell! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Glen..you are always the loudest voice when it comes to people flaunting a manufacturers rating...now that there might finaly be a program that makes sure it actually means something in terms of a rating, you say 'I dont want things to change'? Though this could become a lengthy discussion, I think the simplified version is.. Rules and Regs. ARE gonna happen. Like it or not. And it doesnt matter what accident did or didnt start that process. But its happening. And some people want to try and make it the best one it can be. Which is better than sticking your head in the sand while singing a happy song to make it go away.... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

On jumps where you are hired as a coach/instructor. yes. Especialy when it comes to low experienced jumpers. Though the missing gearcheck was one important aspect in the case you mention, the biggest one was someone teaching wingsuit flying before the generaly accepted experience level was reached for the student to even be allowed to actually make the first jump... Wingsuit flying might not fully be the same as teaching an AFF course, but its also not on the same level as sitfly or CREW coaching. Its introducing many new aspects in a jump in terms of gear, navigation, body restriction and added procedures in case of emergency. And thats all next to added difficulty in movement (flying). During a FF, CREW or whatever coach jump, one can just say F*CK it, and quit the diveplan, and go back to normal freefall or canopyflight. On a wingsuit, one can not. So I indeed rate it higher than 'just coaching' when it comes to FFCs. The added mental and physical load requires someone to have an extra pair of eyes and an extra brain taking care of him/her. Just like the current advice in the available programs. But what are the concequences if someone doesnt follow the advice he or she is teaching? Nothing....he or she just does it again..and again...and again... Its not making the sport safer.. And thats where you're missing the point IM(not so humble:)O This thing going on now is 100% organized, written and set up by wingsuit flyers. Thinking about our best interests. Making sure we advance. Instead of making sure we get held back later.. With the current situation, and growing attention for our sport. keeping things the way they are (hiding our heads in the sand) is THE way to make sure we wake up one day and find a big set of rules and regulations made up by people who have no clue what it is we do... Everyone thinks its 'them' making rules, while in fact it's 'us'....maybe not everyone here personaly. But people who know what they are talking about. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Exelent video Matt! Watched it several times already! Great vibe. Love the groundstuff. Most videos lack in that (showing only the jumps). This one really shows the boogie vibe! Hope to fly with you again soon...shame we only got to share a few jumps there...! My video is still about 3 to 4 weeks away (in the middle of moving to a new place, and also slightly crippled). But awesome seeing this one! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Cool colour-sceme Joaquim! Looks even better in real life, compared to the drawn version! Just recieved a Phantom2z here, and cant wait to take that baby up into the sky (when my wing has healed enough....already typing with two hands again, and less and less pain every day...so looking good) GoGo Swedish Airforce! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Just to clarify, outside of having some info on what USA/USPA wingsuit flying members are working on, we have ZERO involvement in all of this. Outside of applauding the effort, and (if and when this comes through) advocating its use for our (and if possible neighbouring) countries. Really breaking it down....It looks to me like the only critique people have on this is 'ooh shit...I may need to do 2 jumps to prove my skills' and follow one or two days of class to get everyone on one line in terms of instruction..... I dont see the problem. Structure, safety and consistency in wingsuit FFCs regardless of which brand you fly. Thats the only goal as far as Im concerned. Im just a bystander...but one who (so far) likes what he's seen... And yes, even though Im not a USPA member, even Ill gladly sort out becoming one and taking the class required if it comes to that point sooner or later... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

It shows you dont know what you dont know Having seen what the boys are working on, I hope we get what we ask for. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

The first post I read all pointed towards wingsuits being last, and that being standard operations on dropzones such as Perris (and picking most EU DZ's where Ive jumped.....Empuria Brava, Spa etc etc. and even Russia) its all wingsuits after CF/CREW. And usually when CREW does exit last, its for (stupid) reasons that have more to do with the number of canopies during landing. And less with the way more immidiate danger of freefallers/delayed openings meeting wingsuit flyers in freefall. Something thats happened more times that funny alreayd. Only if you dont take a decent time between their and your exit. If they (CREW) do the proposed clear and pull that most CREW guys should be doing, its impossible to catch them. But going that route, if you fuck up a wingsuit exit bad enough, you can potentialy catch up with ANYTHING that exited before you. As you also mention, though no real, 100% definitive 'this is how it is' on exit order has been agreed uppon by everyone, you must also see that having wingsuits exit last (combined with a bit of normal common sense in exit delays and flight patern) will be a safe method of operating for all dropzones. All the discussions and what-if scenarios everyone is not sure about can always be incoperated in a future revised version if needed.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Adopting 'wingsuit is last' as the standard method of operations works (which was also the general line of thought in the threads you point to), but it DOESNT mean you should take all thought out of the paterns flown. Exit badly in a wingsuit (steep flight) and you can trail a plane and get a next high-puller on top of you in case of opening issues or a cutaway he/she experienced. Again, having seen one personaly, and heard several stories from others on freefallers exiting after wingsuit flyers, and having some nasty close calls...(and having not seen or heard any the other way around), for 99,9% of all dropzones, wingsuits out last will be a safe method of working (and looking around, is whats writen on the paper in the back of most planes already anyways as the prefered method of exiting). But everyone (of course) is always free to shift and change the exit order on his/her load if it makes him or her feel more comfortable. The biggest issue with most 'pre-wingsuit' exit orders (that squeeze wingsuits in somewhere) is that they only account for seperation under canopy. Staging traffic during landing. And in that case, it would make sense to have CREW exit last. But thats completely ignoring potential collisions/dangers in freefall. Which (to be) have a higher priority. Seeing as wingsuits will still be landing before the crew guys, even when exiting directly after eachother. Safety in freefall and avoiding potential collisions (again, multiple cases of this already!) is higher on the priority list than having a few more canopies to watch during landing. Only on certain special CREW jumps with far, far exit points, a shift in exit order might be in place. But then you're talking outside of standard operations in terms of jumprun and spot. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Im in the same boat as you are....Im not making any money on the sport. Im happy if I get a free trip out of it every once in a while, but its all for the love of the sport. But the work currently going on behind the screens is good stuff, and is a thing thats (in my view) workable to a point where even someone like us could easily adopt and join in on this new instruction standard. Im not part of all this, but having seem some bits and pieces, I cant say anything else but 'Im impressed and hope its what gets accepted as the new standard' JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Im writing most stuff in wordpad, which doesnt have spellcheck. But did miss doing a proper spellcheck before exporting. My appologies, Its been fixed. Instead of 'Europeans' its also fine just using 'jarno' as a name when you have comments.. Please do elaborate.. Putting CREW and/or high pullers out last puts them in the path of wingsuit groups exiting before them in case of (intentional or un-intentional) opening hesitations and/or canopy malfunctions. Having people potentialy freefall through a group of wingsuit flyers. Something Ive been 'priviledged' to witness firsthand 5 years ago. So definitely something that can happen (and will happen again if not carefull). Where-as putting a wingsuit group out after all other type of jumps always means there is no danger of this happening if wingsuits stick to flying a normal left or right hand patern. Granted, some experienced flyers may choose to exit before other groups/type of dives for specific reasons. But doing so is not standard procedure, and should not be advocated as the normal way of doing things. Putting wingsuits out last is always the safest option. But of course always interested in hearing how its handled elsewhere and for what exact reason its deemed safer to exit before normal freefallers/highpullers. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

They don't?....ooops. Brian Drake aside, the highly skilled (non-wannaB) basejumpers dont just hop of a rock and hope to miss Better? JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Not sure what the 0:19 is. But what LikesToJump is saying is that they are flying the wingsuit not near the maximum performance. Flying at a glide-angle thats (for instance) around 2:1 (2 meters forward, 1 down) while close to 3:1 (3 meters forward, 1 meter down) is possible. Which means its always possible to 'out climb' the terrain they are flying over, or rock-ledges they are flying past. So (when done right) there is always range left to get out of trouble, and flyers should potentialy never get into do or die situations with regards to their performance. But this is also the reason why flying like this requires a very firm understanding of ones range/performance. They dont just hop of a rock and hope to miss. Its knowing their performance, and the angle of flight/range that performance gives them. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

The biggest issue is that people who really NEED rules, often come in here, asking if they are okay bypassing the RECOMMENDATIONS.... They dont really want advice..they want justification and confirmation on it being okay for them to bypass the very thing everyone is telling them they should do. Having some solid rules, and also some firm parameters in which instructors work and follow those rules in what they teach.. It will be a step forward.. If I choose to teach someone straight from AFF, fuck up his FFC by doing the teaching over the internet and only being on the plane with him, going low directly on exit and signing his logbook without even seeing him jump, nobody is gonna come in an take my BMI patch away (the course I took in terms of getting into instruction). If you do this on a Tandem of AFF, you'll be done teaching real soon, and have your instructors licence pulled. But in wingsuit flying, there is always new peeps who dont know who is teaching what and how. So even the worst 'instructors' will always have an audience. And nobody will slap them on the fingers. They might see their load organising scedule grow a bit empty. But there will always be new first-timers for them to prey on.. Wiping the slate clean, and having people prove their skills (in both teaching and flying) and having one unified way of teaching. It will be a big step forward. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Though I think many would love seeing the current 'do as you wish/there are rules and recommendations, but you dont HAVE to follow them if you dont want to' thing just stay as is, wingsuit flying is definitely in need some some stricter policy as to who teaches what. And the current system(s) have a right intentions, but with some of the key people in/from some of the current big-name teaching programs doing the opposite of what they are trying to get everyone else to do (teaching people with less than the recomended experience etc) I think its becoming more and more clear its really an ugly and rotten girl underneath all that pretty makeup on the outside. Though this letter in the Parachutist may not be the thing everyone wants to read, I think its a strong signal...and luckely one where several people are already working on a good and thourough solution behind the screen. One I applaud and really like as to what Ive read and seen so far... No more handouts...no more 'pay 300 euros to listen to me talk for a day' and be an instructor. Regardless of skill or teaching ability. Even if thats only 1% of the 'instructors' currently out there. Thats 1% too much. Wiping the slate clean, learning from past experiences and starting over sometimes is the best thing to do. Viva la revolution.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Coming from someone that yells "Should have bought a T-bird" when someone posts his new Phantom...dude...Im proud of you! Maybe one of the greenies can split this off to Bonfire (allong with the FedEx discussion). Pix and stuff on the new suits! http://news.flylikebrick.com/2009/05/flyyourbody-new-suits.html http://news.flylikebrick.com/2009/06/new-wingsuits-from-fly-your-body.html More info on http://www.flyyourbody.com JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

At your experience level, thats normal. 100 more packjobs will take that down to 10 minutes. another 100 packjobs takes it down to 5. Then 2 or 3 shitty openings and a cutaway take you back to 10 minutes again Its a normal progression. Just jump a lot. 10 minutes behind the trainstation, and a disgusting taste in your mouth also gets you cash..There's always a way. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Noop..and those are usually the people that make the most jumps, as they spend every minute they have packing and whoring themselves out for everything that enables them to buy a jump-ticket JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

The title 'pincheck' refers to the standard gearcheck everyone should do before boarding an airplane, and (in this case) aimed at the non-wingsuit flyers, who usually have some difficulty understanding what it is they are looking at. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

On most subjects, speculation and advice online is perfectly okay. In skydiving and base, everyone is an expert, and listening to the wrong person can be a life-threatening event if its advice on the wrong subject.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

As part of the big summer boogie organised by AirBoss, FlyLikeBrick will be in Soulac sur Mer (France) from saterday 18 till sunday the 26th of July for wingsuit coaching and load organising. Its a beautifull dropzone near the sea-side, and camping is possible on/near the DZ, and there is also bunkhouse/lodging available for those wanting a better bed. There will also be load organising for Freefly and RW. And special tubejumps, etc. And of course, dayvideos! For more information, see http://airboss.nl Alejandro will post here in a bit with more detailed info on what he's planning. Im sadly 'out of order' due to a shoulder injury* so sadly cant be there. But Alejandro (aka Alex) will be there all week for your entertainment. The list 1. Alejandro 2. Denis 3. Benedict We're planning more French weekends in the coming season. So stay tuned for more, *sustained trying to break the Guiness Record for longest non-stop self-pleasuring JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Proximity flying is performance flocking with a solid object Sometimes you fly 50%, sometimes 100% to fly a certain line. If you're talking about distance/performance, usually flights away from an object (trying to achieve maximum distance) such as this one are usually a better meassure JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Not really..as proximity flying is about following the curves of the landscape. Its about accuracy more than it is about glide-ratios. Distance in base is probably a better performance measurement than proximity. That last one is 100% pilotskill JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

http://news.flylikebrick.com/2009/06/wingsuit-pinchecks.html We placed a new article on our website, explaining a wingsuit pincheck for non-wingsuit flyers. Seeing as a wingsuit still gives many (non-ws) skydivers puzzled looks during pinchecks. Sincerely Alejandro, Costyn en Jarno www.flylikebrick.com p.s. When we initialy wrote this article (in Dutch) FlockU released a similar document, which made us postpone the release of this one. So sorry for the wait (for the people that helped on writing and spellchecking this one). JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Even there is says little... Are we looking at a good pilot flying, or a good suit. Loic did some stuff in an Acces wingsuit, that most couldnt do in the biggest/most bad-ass suit on the market. Its eye-pleasing watching suits flown in BASE, but unless its top-level pilots flying each suit, its hard to compare the actual performance levels. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?