jenfly00

When a lawyer says or writes something that seems honest and truthful, always remember that their business is not truth and honesty, but what they can sell as appearing truthful and honest. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Goodby, my brother. I never met you but you captured my heart with your posts in this thread. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2965527;#2965527 ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

My Sig 228 (short trigger) is my favorite carry piece. I've put just short of two thousands rounds through both the 228 and my Glock 23. In addition to feeling more natural in my hand, I find the I have more control with the 9mm. Stopping power doesn't matter, if you miss your target. With the Sig, I can put five hand held shots in a three inch group at 25 yards. The Glock (.40) moves the grouping out an additional inch and a half. YMMV. Lastly, while the Glock is a well made tool, the Sig is a thing of beauty.

Some additional proof for you ... http://www.thehumorarchives.com/joke/Proof_of_global_warming ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Cool, then you have no further need to PM me, right? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2973714;search_string=jenfly00;#2973714 One seeks to threaten and intimidate with veiled words ...another uses his truck. Looks like a style difference to me. If he wasn't on the other side of the country, I would have filed for a restraining order and had my cop family taking a very close look at him. Wow all that for paraphrasing MP? Wow, hell hath no fury like warpedskydiver scorned. Stop sending me PM's dude. If you haven't gotten the message yet ...I'm not interested. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Yes, it was a threat ...as you intended. Choosing between the two, at least the skinhead showed spine instead of hiding behind words and plausable deniability. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2973714;search_string=jenfly00;#2973714 One seeks to threaten and intimidate with veiled words ...another uses his truck. Looks like a style difference to me. If he wasn't on the other side of the country, I would have filed for a restraining order and had my cop family taking a very close look at him. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I suspect the difference between the two of you was more style than substance. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Now pay attention and go back and read the transcript carefully. Phony soldier – Iraqi war vet who opposes the warTHIS IS THE LIE YOU HAVE TO HAVE Fake soldier – Jesse MacBeth Do you see how Limbaugh blurs the two to try and dig himself out of a hole. Phil Wrong again. To make this all fit for you you need to change the definition. As Rush spoke for WEEKS before this sad smear he spoke of "PHONY soldiers" as being those who claimed to be a ranger or in a war zone when neither was true. So, I KNOW what the truth is and I KNOW what you need/want to believe. In either case I KNOW, you are wrong. So, I will watch the show you are joining Dude. YOU are the show ...and it's turning into a sad, sad tear jerker. There was a short discussion at the DZ last weekend and a small group opined that you MUST be just playing with others ...that no marginally rational individual could possibly hold such totally wacked opinions. I assured them you were not playing ...was I correct?

Oh yeah I forgot.. most of the right wingers in speakers corner that continually run their mouths dont actually skydive.. My Bad. But since I have never met any right wingers yet who were truely green I guess its still hypocritical to run offf at the mouth about how someone else uses fossil fuels. Your continued inability to argue any inteligible point is just bewildering to me. All you do is spew rhetoric and hot wind, which is suprising, considering how cold it must be in the rarified air that you breathe. Not a thing has changed in the time I've been away. Some people continue to argue with logic and sound reasoning while others just... well, prove their intelligence quotient by the rhetoric they type. Well ...at least she is a skydiver. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Egggzactly. Thus, my position it is better titled a "makeover package". There's really no reason to single out moms. No, there's not a reason to single out moms, but... 1) it's alliterative and so it 'sticks in the mind', and 2) it preys on a woman's fear that she's not as desirable after having a baby. It goes WAY beyond desirable. It preys on societally imprinted views of self worth. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Perhaps it is a sign of hope that former active Bush supporters are now reduced to attacking the literary style of their leader's critics. When I start leading the govt in shitting on the constitution, feel free (in your TV news, alliterative style) to 'Junk Jen'. Ok, I know this is between you and Law, but this is too annoying not to comment on. It's not your literary style. It's something you said that is drawing these comparisons between you and Bush. As for your plea to not criticise you, I'd start learning to handle the heat. You're in the Speaker's Corner now. What Bush said is irrelevant, hence my comment about what he is doing. Your comments missed the point ...but, at least they weren't threatening me with bodily harm. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Holy...! Scratch just a little below the surface and look what we find ... Hmmm, you do realize you need to take your medication EVERY day ...right? You should know that my heartfelt philosophy is I will be judged by 12 rather than carried by 6. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I think we would both agree she was out of control. She was on her way to a treatment program for alcoholics. I don't have enough information to agree that she made a conscious decision. Perhaps she did, but have you ever seen anyone in full blown Delirium Tremems? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Perhaps it is a sign of hope that former active Bush supporters are now reduced to attacking the literary style of their leader's critics. When I start leading the govt in shitting on the constitution, feel free (in your TV news, alliterative style) to 'Junk Jen'. It's not that you didn't 'get' my rape metaphor, it merely annoyed you. Wrapping your annoyance in the banners of "intellectual honesty and character" is a bit of a hoot, don't you think?

IN essence, I agree. Start at the top and work our way down. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

You got mice in your pockets. or what? "We" "most other". Your device is transparent. I say what I have to say ...and that's it. Whether you or your hordes of supporters 'get it' is not my problem. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Well, many of us out there have serious problems with rape, and tend to view with mistrust anyone who will equate Bush's domestic policies with it. And some of us are really pretty fucking sick and tired of the hyperbole associated with the anti-Bush movement, since it really has no basis in reality to compare Bush to a rapist. You smell coffee brewing? Well, we think we do, as well. It's just that now that you've openly claimed to us that it's coffee brewing, we are questioning whether it really is the case. Perhaps comparing Bush to a mob boss would be more appropriate. Debateable, but there certainly are points to compare. Perhaps saying that Bush's leadership is responsible for the deaths of thousands of American military men. See, that is not debateable. Saying that Bush has refused to work toward furthering the ideal socialized medicine is also something of limited debate. Although there is much more to debate in that claim. But comparing Bush to a rapist? Come on... I dont' like Bush one bit, but I'll maintain some intellectual honesty and character. . Bush is raping my beloved America. Your reluctance to accept the metaphor is not my problem. As for your last sentence ...dude, a lawyer taking the moral high ground??? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

It wasn't his pet theory as he already knew this. His post was mere rhetoric in support of his home team. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I won't bore you with my credentials , but I never understood the term NEO-CON...NEO implies "new", and I am a conservative. The thing is that in the framework of the cold war, today's so-called "neo-cons" knew, 30 years ago, that the shit that started bubbling over in the 70s, would eventually have to boil over, and that direct US involvement would be required. As it happened, the cold war ended, but the framework of what happened in the middle east did not change. Israel was/is still a target, the revolution in Iran may still have its reckoning one day, Iraq was a proxy to keep the area occupied while the "big-two" stood toe-to-toe. Iraq today, and oil. Yes. HOWEVER, it's also about Iran. They are not in a comfortable spot while NATO lies to their north and the US is to their south. My point being, in the end, is that little of this big picture is "new" and that's why "neo-cons" as a name doesn't capture me. But hey, your mileage may vary. What is new, becomes old and what is old, becomes new. Traitors to our founding principles have existed in all ages. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

No, not really. Catchy song, though. The infrared Apache scene still looks cool after all this time. Anyone get the feeling that Bush-hating has reached the level of being a religion of its own? BDS has been a religion of the left since he was inaugurated...and is alive and well here on dizzy-dot. Perhaps you should open your eyes as to what has inspired the hatred. For example, let's say a man in your home town raped children. Would you criticize those who hated him as well? Bush (and his supporters) are raping our country. There's coffee brewing ...why can't you smell it? And perhaps you should open your eyes to reality. If you had said "the politicians are raping our country" I'd agree with you - your insistence that it's solely the Republicans that are doing it is another symptom of BDS. I don't give a hoot about political parties. I'll leave that to you boys with your testosterone laden 'my team' vs 'your team' mentality. The man leading the charge in this assault on America ...is Bush. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

No, not really. Catchy song, though. The infrared Apache scene still looks cool after all this time. Anyone get the feeling that Bush-hating has reached the level of being a religion of its own? BDS has been a religion of the left since he was inaugurated...and is alive and well here on dizzy-dot. Perhaps you should open your eyes as to what has inspired the hatred. For example, let's say a man in your home town raped children. Would you criticize those who hated him as well? Bush (and his supporters) are raping our country. There's coffee brewing ...why can't you smell it? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

So when the enemy comes knocking on the door, and you're cowering in the corner because you don't believe in war and never enlisted, somehow gives that person validity? The enemy knocking on the door???? The enemy is kicking down our doors with warrantless searches. We have seen the enemy and he is you and your uber right buds. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I have no reason to believe that. However, when you use the power of arrest to detain and restrain an out of control person, then you have assumed, to a large degree, responsibility for their safety. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".