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I would hope some service members would have the integrity to stand up for the Constitution when it is in conflict with the CIC. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Had you read and understood the thread, I was raising a question about a hypothetical situation, not a current one. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

How what? Interesting that a US soldier considers the US Constitution to be "nothing." Are you sworn to protect that very document? I suggest you read the Constitution. If you do not understand it afterward, try reading it again. There is a reason that the Founding Fathers saw fit to define ONE SINGLE crime in that document. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I'm truly sorry that you are blind to the injustice. Incidentally, nearly all successful activists are amateurs. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Yes, it is. For example, we send SF troops to South American countries such as Columbia to reduce the incoming supply of cocaine. Do you think those troops just call the drug producers bad names? We imprison people for drug use. We shoot people who defend themselves against the soldiers of the treasonous War On Drugs. Our government uses propaganda which often consists of outright lies to perpetuate the War On Drugs. How is it not a war? A rose by any other name . . . Yes, it is still treason. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Thank you. Let's say, hypothetically, the President was obviously an enemy of the Constitution for reasons that had nothing to do with the military. Do you wait for an impeachment process to be completed before denouncing the President's authority? It depends on how you feel about being court-martialed in the interim. Military folk give up certain constitutioal rights while in uniform. Taking the oath also implies certain responsibilities. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

From the US Constitution (Article III, Section 3): Seems pretty clear. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

You're right. There is nothing wrong with treason as long as it's legislated. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Well, I guess it's okay to arrest him if he was using drugs. The War on Drugs is treasonous, and creates "crime" where none existed before. It's really not much different than imprisoning someone for being Jewish. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Will he offer me his mouth? Yes. Will he offer me his teeth? Yes. Will he offer me his jaws? Yes. Will he offer me his hunger? Yes. Again, will he offer me his hunger? YES. And will he starve without me? Yes. And does he love me? Yes. Yes. On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? Yes. I bet you say that to all the boys. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

And I'm sticking to my guns that the world is not so black and white that responsibility for bad choices cannot be justifiably shared.

This might be crazy talk, but would the CO2 be such a big problem if we (people) stopped deforesting the planet? Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Not really any better. As I said, the smokers are not without blame. They'll get theirs. Nobody is going to die of lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, etc. for them. They have to suffer themselves. Also suffering are those who were exposed to a lifetime of second-hand smoke, without ever making the personal decision to start smoking. To shelter the tobacco companies from their fair share of the responsibility is absolutely ludicrous. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I for one am thankful for Billvon's patient, thorough explanations in this and other similar threads. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

The Bornagains have been trying for years to turn America into a neo-Christian theocracy. Thus far they have failed. What makes you think the followers of Mohammed will be any more successful in Europe? There is no need to destroy or reform Islam in Europe any more than there is a need to reform or destroy Christianity in the US. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Can we assume you've never suffered from an addiction? IIRC, it was C Everett Koop who claimed smoking cigarettes was seven times more addictive than using heroin. If you don't understand how addiction affects people, you can't understand my point. By it's very nature, when someone is addicted to a substance, their body not only wants that substance, but it needs that substance. That is a really bad analogy. I know several world class canopy pilots. I've never seen any of them suffer physically because they were denied the ability to swoop. Hell, many even welcome an occasional break. On the other hand, I've never seen an addict willingly decide to take a couple days off from their addiction. I absolutely agree with personal responsibility, for everybody. Cigarette smokers are not without blame. Neither is the tobacco industry. The smokers often die for their poor choices. The tobacco industry should not be without punishment for their deeds. Lawsuits are the best alternative to jailing the shareholders. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I don't think so. We're talking about Harvard, not MIT. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

It's not ludicrous at all. What is ludicrous is protecting an industry that produces a product that kills one in three users when used as directed. Had the tobacco industry not taken steps to make their product more addictive (with the knowledge that their product was deadly), I might have some sympathy. As it is, they effectively manipulated the market. I have no more sympathy for them than I do the executives of Enron or Worldcom. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Billvon has offered an alternative to both "staying the course" and "cutting and running." Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

The act of taking steps to make their product more addictive is effectively manipulating market forces. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Yet you believe in an intelligent designer. Have you seen said designer? As I said, your position appears to be based in emotion, not logic. Logically, there is no credible alternative hypothesis to evolution. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Thank you. Let's say, hypothetically, the President was obviously an enemy of the Constitution for reasons that had nothing to do with the military. Do you wait for an impeachment process to be completed before denouncing the President's authority? Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Just because the President is (hypothetically) an enemy of the Constitution does not mean the Constitution is fallen. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

The example I was thinking of was more along the lines of: What if Congress passes legislation that the President signs, but refuses to execute/enforce. Let's say, for argument's sake, that the legislation specifically calls for the President to execute/enforce such legislation. Let's also say that the legislation pertains to a group immune from lawsuits, such that a case cannot be (ultimately) brought before the Supreme Court should the President fail to execute/enforce the legislation. In other words, the President willfully circumvents the system of checks and balances built into the Constitution by withholding Congress's right to override a veto and by withholding the SCOTUS' authority to interpret the law. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Not true. The President is CIC until the impeachment process ends. President Clinton was impeached, but did not relinquish command of the US armed forces until President Bush was inaugurated. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!