jgoose71

Are you sure Democrats just don't move to the city to be closer to the Welfare Office? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Once again, the reasons you listed above are why the other countries have not dumped the dollar. That is also the biggest factor for our country not going into hyperinflation. But we do have inflation. The price of milk, gas, and especially gold is going up. Pumping $ trillions into an economy with nothing to back it has consequences, and also does have other countries starting to look for alternatives. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

For now... As we continue to turn all of our manufacturing over to them it won't be a matter of buying stuff from china because we want to, it's cheap. When we have to, then they will have us completely by the short and curlies As it sits right now go to a store and try to find something that was actually manufactured in the U.S. Nike, Levi's, Starter, etc, while the company may be U.S. owned, the items them selves were manufactured in China. It's the same thing that happened in the U.S. that allowed us to become a Super Power. After WWII we were the only industrialized nation left, everyone else was bombed to shit. We could charge what we wanted and it lead to several decades of economic prosperity. Then the rest of the world caught up. With the 1st world countries turning all of their manufacturing over to China, it will be the same for them soon. And they know it. They have already bought all the mineral rights to Africa and the Middle east... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

No, not nonsense. I got that number from the US department of commerce who started tracking trade around 1985... http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html While the entire debt may not be in treasuries, they have a vast expanse of the U.S.'s former wealth in their banks. This you are correct on. It is one of the main reasons why China hasn't taken over as the world reserve currency, driving the U.S. into hyperinflation. And keep in mind, while the Chinese record on human rights is abysmal at best, their financial system isn't that bad. The average joe is not a crook, just the politicians. As I stated earlier, they keep their currency in check by not publicly trading it. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

How does this apply to the thread? Do you know what you even said? Or are you throwing out random quotes in order to sound smart? If you don't think printing $1 Trillion a year isn't weakening our status as a nation and our ecomony, please explain why. The economy effects both parties. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Actually, I see the Chinese Yuan taking over. Right now, how they are able to "manipulate" there currency is that they don't freely trade it. The Chinese economy is very strong. They have produced more than they have consumed for many years. The Grand total Trade deficit with the U.S. alone is over $93 Trillion. If they were to start freely trading, the extreme undervalue of their currency would have everyone selling off their dollars to buy yuan, but to bad you can't unless you are a country that has signed on with them... I'm guessing their will be a slow phase out of the dollar as China takes over the world. China doesn't want to crash our economy, after all they own most of our debt ($93 Trillion) and if it became worthless, it would crash them too... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Quick answer, please research for more info: Obama and the Fed are printing about $1Trillion a year in new money to pay for the extreme government spending. If we did not hold the status of "Worlds Reserve Currency" the dollar would have most likely done the same as the Turkish Lira or the Angola kwanza reajustado. With most of the currency of the world using the Fiat system, you either need a gross domestic product or something else to give your currency confidence. When most countries trade with each other, they convert their money to dollars to do it (world reserve currency). As long as they continue to do this, there is a demand for the dollar to keep the money the fed is printing into inflating the economy to hyperinflation. But China is signing deals with other countries to deal directly (in monetary terms), and the Euro zone is slowly expanding. There is a lot more to it than that, but it's a start to get you looking. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Thank you for your input. I know that the economy is a hugely complex organism that is extremely vast and few people have the mental capacity to fully understand the workings as a whole. I know I don't. That's why for right now I'm only asking about the Dollar as the World reserve currency. As for asking these guys for advice, this is Speakers Corner!!! They know everything!!! Are you new here? (Don't worry, I won't make any investments based on their advice...) "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

In an effort to make myself smart on the economy, the value of the dollar and most things financial, the one fact that made me real nervous when I was on my fact finding mission is that the only reason the U.S economy hasn't collapsed under Obama is because of the Dollars unique status as the "World Reserve Currency." If we were any other country, at this point we would be seeing hyperinflation, rioting in the streets, and an end to life as we know it. The three other currencies that are closely poised to take over our unique status (just as we took this status from the British Sterling Pound back in the 60's) would be the Euro, South Korean Won, and the Chinese Yuan Renminbi, though their are still some factors limiting them from taking over. Kind of interested to hear what all the really smart people here have to think... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Why would they object? Because they, and their faction of the GOP, have become the Party of Mean as well as the Party of No and the Stupid Party (C) 2013 GOP Gov. Bobby Jindal news.yahoo.com/jindal-gop-must-stop-being-stupid-party-014220693--election.html. Your saying the party of Bill Maher is the party of "Nice" and "Inclusion?" John Stewart did a show on that, let's see how it went... http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-5-2012/hope-and-change-2---the-party-of-inclusion Boy, times have changed... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

You mean firing the parents from their jobs and/or cutting hours and wages to below a living standard so their kids can get a free flu shot is bad? How dare you! Why do you hate kids? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Typically, Tea Parties and Conservatives give more than liberals. Conservatives give more to charities while liberals it seems support taxes so the government gets more to give, then tries to cheat there way out of paying (How many tax scandals has Wrangle been involved in?) Of course, a quick google search supports the conservative generosity claim: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730&page=1 Google it your self and check the results... And yes, conservatives would support Jesus, they still believe in him, most likely because he wasn't a government official. I think he falls more under the "Religious Organization or Charity" definition than "government program." If I remember rightly, a local council (Government) tried him, convicted him, then turned him over to the Romans for Crucifixion... (Probably a liberal Jewish council made up of so called "scholars" and what not) "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Nobody likes the idea of gunfights in the streets or schools. Me personally, I like the idea of lining up kindergarteners against a wall for a mass execution less. It's kind of a "lesser of 2 evils" kind of thing. If there is a chance to stop a shooter, then go for it, rather than let him continue on his killing spree unchecked. That was one thing the police took away from the Columbine indecent. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Yep, banning guns in Kenya will be just as effective as banning guns in Chicago... I feel the need to state the obvious because some people still don't get it. Violence in the symptom of other problems. Banning guns is the equivalent of a doctor saying "You've got a brain tumor? Here is some Motrin for the pain, the rest will work it's self out..." Here is a better analogy for the left: "We have a problem with abortions? Let's ban abortions. The reasons we have so many out of wedlock teen pregnancies with just work it's self out..." Same thing. Until you take care of Al Qaeda, gang bangers, thug life, poverty, corruption, etc, etc, etc,... it's all going to be more of the same. Maybe it's time to treat the disease and not the symptom? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Sure you can. All you do is let natural selection take it's course. Unfortunately all the liberals stand up and start crying about needing to end the suffering of the stupid people. Stupid is supposed to hurt... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Lets live here! HA!!!! They forgot his splash proof goggles and a thermometer to check the temperature of the coffee! FAIL!!!! "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

When I was in Iraq, the compound that I was on has one of Saddam Husseins old wood chippers that he would feed people into when they pissed him off. Rumor has it a lot of people were fed through that wood shipper. Head first if he likes you, feet first if he didn't... Anyway, since wood chippers have been responsible for 10,000 of deaths all through the 90's, they should be banned also while we are banning things. I'm also still waiting for a ban on pressure cookers..... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Still waiting for some who supports the revocation of SYG to answer this one.... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

So, not to derail this thread or anything... But how about for the general discussion we talk about how repealing "Stand Your Ground Laws" are going to make us safer? I for one have always believed that my rights end where the next persons rights begin. How does letting people walk all over your rights make this place a better country? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

They fight every day to ensure that the "good guys" (IE: ME!!!!) are not out gunned by the bad guys, allowing me to defend my self while the cops finish their donuts.... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Do you think they would still defend him if I came in the door with a couple of big, juicy steaks? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Looking back through the posts, almost everyone here believes that self defense is a right, however, it seems the liberals think that you should be able to defend yourself without hurting your attacker... It's always fun to watch liberal ideals trying to be applied in the real world.... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

In your scenario, it all depends on how much "I start winning." If I am attempting to kill you, yes you have the right to do what ever it takes to preserve your own life. Kind of like in the Rodney King case, there is a point where force can become excessive, and the attackee can become the attacker. But if the above is how you perceived the GZ/TM case, I HIGHLY suggest that you get an unfiltered look at the tons of actual physical evidence that is available that the media does not report about after GZ got out of the car. TM confronted GZ. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

You make a ridiculous false equivalency argument comparing gun ownership of that time and country to this. Even without additional gun restrictions, the Jews were fucked. It's not like they were big gun owners anyway. And you are making a completely and totally false claim about the 2nd amendment. Law Rocket's example is exactly what our founding fathers wanted to prevent from ever happening in this country when they passed it. If the Jews that were armed were able to ban together, organize, and form a few resistance cells (Militias), maybe a few more would have made it out alive. I'm sure a few tried, but it may have been more effective if a few more were armed... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I wasn't advocating it, I was using it as an example, just to clarify. You may want to re-read my post. And in TM/GZ case, the police investigated, their investigation thrown out in the court of public opinion. A trial was set up, and when all the evidence that the police had was shown to the jury an acquittal followed. But apparently that still isn't enough. Now their are calls for civil cases, death threats and bounties have been given, etc., etc., etc.,... Apparently in some cases it doesn't matter if the police do their job. It's part of the reason why I'm asking the question. Here is one for you: In your neck of the woods a home invasion was caught on a nanny cam of a burglar beating the holy fuck out of a woman in front of a kid (knocked her unconscious twice) and then threw her down a flight of stairs into a basement. If she had a gun, would she been justified in shooting her assailant? And if yes, at what time during the attack would she have been justified in using it? And if no, how would you suggest she defend herself, assuming that you believe that she has the right? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything