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Turtlespeed, you said in the other thread that you tried to sign up for Obamacare. In the process did they ask you for any health care info? (Pre-existing conditions, general health, pregnant wife, medications, etc...?) Or were they just trying to get your bank account info and tax statements? (Also supposed to be protected, but not HIPPA) "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I call my self Libertarian, though I don't think people would call me a centrist. I'm self described as "fiscally conservative and socially fabulous!" while being extremely cynical about stuff I don't think is proven one way or the other (cough...global warming...cough) I believe that a person should be able to do as he wishes as long as he does no harm to others. Problems being, a lot of people are to self centered or ignorant on some matters to understand the harm to others their actions cause. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Translated: I don't got time to like, learn shit and stuff. Can someone just tell me what to think? Obama seems cool, I'll just do what ever he says... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I know the left always comes back to gay rights and the right to choose. For this argument, that is a non-sequitur. As I told billvon, why are you giving up rights in response to giving up rights? We need to keep what rights we do have, and continue to fight for the rest. Gay rights (Marriage) only became an issue recently because of the monetary gains by the government to be labeled as a family. When it was a priest just blessing you under a tree, no one cared because there was no gains to be had. This is a great example of "as our society grows, identifying the shortfalls, and fighting to keep up." As for the right to choose, for a lot of people it's a balance of the mother's rights and the babies rights. As to when life starts, that is the question (when to give the fetus the same rights as a person). We should continue to fight to understand when life starts. One of the reasons I am pro-choice is because I don't feel that we have a definitive answer, so I don't think we should not pass laws on it, and leave the choice to individual beliefs. Which goes back to the OP. Why would you want to give up the freedoms you do have? My personal belief is that my rights end where yours start. Do you remember the smoking argument? "You like to smoke, I like to have a beer. Your smoking gets in my face and hair makes me smell bad and gives me cancer. The by product of my beer is piss. Is it all right if I piss all over you?" To that extent, some regulations are needed. Not everything the EPA has done is bad. What about health care? With this new bill we have crossed the line. I'm now responsible for taking care of everyone at the point of the government gun. Personal responsibility is gone. I'm no longer free to do with as I please with what I earn. To follow on, people piss and moan about government intrusion in their life, but demand the government take care of them. Sorry, you can't have one with out the other. I personally would much rather have less government in my life and be allowed to do more for myself. If your not happy about government surveillance programs, you've got no one to blame but your self. When you demanded security, it's the price you paid. Yep, rights we are fighting for, rights we are still trying to understand, and rights we are giving away. It's how I see it. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

There you go confusing freeing up the economy with "the right want's dirty air and dirty water" again. No I don't want a cup of frack water. No I don't want all my essential minerals in one breath. Yes, I would like to start my own business and be able to compete against the major corporations on a level playing field... I think its hilarious that you are using China as a model. Overbearing government and massive intervention in all areas of life, particularly commerce. And you can start your own business and compete, you just have to do it better than them. Capitalism is a bitch huh? Why not? The left praises Chairman Mao's social engineering agenda as a model for their social utopia... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Maybe so, but we could start by ensuring that we are all paying the same tax rates, cutting out special loop holes that the rich lobby for, and ending legalized monopolies in the name of "regulations". Either that, or let me be the president's "Economics Czar" for a while so I can get all the same special considerations as Jeffrey Imelt... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

There you go confusing freeing up the economy with "the right want's dirty air and dirty water" again. No I don't want a cup of frack water. No I don't want all my essential minerals in one breath. Yes, I would like to start my own business and be able to compete against the major corporations on a level playing field... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Now that we got that out of the way, I'm guessing buy your post you never read the original article. Way in "left" field... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Your demagoguing to justify bad behavior. The left's response is "Take away freedoms in response to taking away freedoms." Let's try this. Keep the freedoms we have and fight for the freedoms we don't. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Hi Jerry There are some things that are in the FPR's that are designed to keep the government fair in it's purchases, and also design to keep the government from using it's purchasing power for corrupt purposes. But it also has a lot of waste. Specific examples? If I order the wrong item, why can't I return it for a full refund? Trying to order a couple of screws for a helicopter, I got 3 Jack Browne full face dive masks. They are not cheap. You want one? Trying to order 50 wire splices for the comsumables bin, the NSN in FEDLOG (the crappy government shopping catalog on 6 CD's) didn't specify unit of issue. Instead of 50 ea, I got 50 hd (hundred) That was expensive, I couldn't return the items I didn't need. Quite often people will guess at part numbers because descriptions are so shitty. I when they get the wrong item, oh well. But that is the system they are stuck using. Also like the way the government divides it's money into separate pots to be refilled once a year. I can't buy shit that I need because that pot of money is empty, but if there is money left over in another pot, I have to buy a hundred chairs and 10,000 pens, whether I need them or not. Why? Because if I don't the budget for that particular pot of money will shrink. Use it or loose it. If I didn't need XX dollars this year, I obviously won't need XX dollars next year. Let's talk Task Force Uniform. The government has pissed away millions on uniform studies in the last several years. My first 15 years in the military I wore 1 uniform. Last 8 I have been through 3. If you ask me, the one I had when I first joined was just fine. Also, despite the FPR's check out the corrupt dealing with the Army's combat uniform. Let's talk IED's. We have JIEDDO, TF Knife, etc, etc, etc... We can all agree that IED's are the biggest killers of U.S. troops, but how many fucking task forces do we need doing the same thing? It's not like any of them listen to the EOD technicians on the ground anyway fighting the good fight. They are just money pits beholden to contractors. How about a little due diligence and seeing if someone is already addressing the problem before you start another damn task force that isn't needed. Or are you just creating another position for another General that needs a job? You got me started on a rant. I could go on, but I'll stop here... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Well, if the American Economy was growing like China's, that would help Americans. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

It's not. Please re-read the article for better understanding. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

And thats fine, you are entitled to your opinion. As long as you understand the majority of the country feel exactly the same about the right, and will be just as resistant to their agenda. I'm sorry to hear that keeping one's personal freedoms is against the left's agenda. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I just found this. I'm posting it here because I like the way he describes the difference between the Bill of Rights in the constitution and FDR's New Deal. Give it a read, if you dare... http://sufficient-reason.tumblr.com/post/26781491317/dear-liberal-heres-why-im-so-hostile "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I have to disagree with you. I have a small degree of personal knowledge in this area. There is plenty of waste in the government. I've seen a great deal of it personally. I have to agree with you. Billvon has obviously never dealt with government contracts or the government/military supply system. I'm willing to bet we could cut government costs in half just by fixing the way government makes it's purchases... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

What you want is a guarantee of sorts that the added revenue won't be used to fund pet projects of legislators. I think a considerable percentage of people (of those paying these taxes in the first place) would agree to pay more, but for their sense that Congress will always spend every dollar plus another dime or two. Kind of... What I really want is the Federal Govt to be limited to the powers that the Constitution granted it. I want reckless spending cut and ridiculous programs dropped. Like the F35 program, and the Ford class carriers? Why? Are you suggesting that the U.S. Military goes back to Horses and Bayonets? How Mitt Romney of you... False dichotomy fallacy. I think he learned that from you. +1!!! What? Obama can use that line on Romney and it's OK? But I use it on you and this is the reaction I get? As the right adopts the tactics of the left, there will be no more adults in the room. But at least as the U.S. comes tumbling down around us, I will know that I got my fair share of zingers in, and that is all that's important... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

yes, and there are plenty more where they came from. No shit, the way they are acting you would think this was an OWS gathering or something... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

What you want is a guarantee of sorts that the added revenue won't be used to fund pet projects of legislators. I think a considerable percentage of people (of those paying these taxes in the first place) would agree to pay more, but for their sense that Congress will always spend every dollar plus another dime or two. Kind of... What I really want is the Federal Govt to be limited to the powers that the Constitution granted it. I want reckless spending cut and ridiculous programs dropped. Like the F35 program, and the Ford class carriers? Why? Are you suggesting that the U.S. Military goes back to Horses and Bayonets? How Mitt Romney of you... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

To some people you will never convince them that the "Stars and Bars" are about anything but racism and slavery. I'm not sure if it's because of brain-washing or the fact that there is an entire industry built around race-baiting now a days. But either way, it took living in the south for a while to understand that there is an entire way of life that some one from the south can identify with. From southern hospitality, to southern cooking. The out-door activities and just some general views on life. Only someone from the south knows the proper way to cook a sweet-potato pie with the proper 5 sticks of real butter. But no, ask any liberal and they will be sure to tell you how Mississippi just finally managed to end slavery earlier this year, and me forgetting to go buy a house slave really quickly before the markets were finally shut down last February... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Maybe if we can get the robots to unionize and demand Obamacare, we can price humans back into the market. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

I just about spit kool-aide all over my computer. Where the fuck did that number come from? What does the government consider an "overhead cost" and are the terms being applied equally? You realize that Medicare is ran by the biggest bureaucracy on earth? And does this number also take into consideration the fraud? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

Well, YOUR congressmen are complete douche bags. MY congressmen who funnel all kinds of pet projects to our district, promise me all kinds of free goodies, and pander to me are the best. YOU guys need to get your act together and vote out YOUR douche bags.... ...Says America... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

This just in... The Taliban are happy she didn't win http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/11/20913675-its-very-good-news-malala-didnt-win-the-nobel-peace-prize-pakistani-taliban "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

So you agree that there is a right way and a wrong way to regulate things? How very republican of you... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything

When you just spit out failed companies as talking point it sure does make it sound like you know what your talking about... While your at it, might as well spit out the "Republicans want dirty air and dirty water" line along with the "have a cup of frack-water?" also... But of course, I don't want dirty air and dirty water, and I don't want to "Deregulate" in the manner of the above companies. Lets just take Enron for example: I agree, utilities should have never been deregulated. Why? Because while the end product was a "Free market", the intake of energy was still "regulated." That caused brokers to buy, hord, and resell energy, driving up prices and causing energy shortages. It's a perfect example of how to fuck things up. As for the other companies, well, got anything else relevant to this century? Like I said, when the companies them selves are lobbying for the "regulations" or to "deregulate" something, it's not usually to level the playing field, it's more likely to help them cement their monopoly. See also, New York Taxi regulations... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything