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I'm a bit lost here, Bill. Oklahoma lost its vote on the banning of Sharia law in appellate court (today). http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/01/in-oklahoma-case-another-legal-obstacle-to-banning-sharia-law/251190/ If this was a jab at redneck Okies.... point taken. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Having spent MANY a day in Tallahassee - can see your plight on the regional issue. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That's cause country girls would hurt homie. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Well yeah... in my first post... shorts and cowboy boots... not hot Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Seriously... do you give a shit? As long as the last thing she takes off is the hat!! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Not. I think it's a regional thing... Florida State vs. Oklahoma State Fact is..... Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I acknowledge Tulsa's crime statistics. Hence, the tactical scenario training, then wine, then boobies. There's a high probability that you will not have a canopy collision, but that doesn't prevent you from keeping your head on a swivel. Same principle... it doesn't hurt to have situational awareness no matter what the "statistics." Consider that you have a greater chance of getting shot than you do of winning the lottery, but you'll buy the lottery tickets as preparation to win. Conversely, you'll not prepare yourself for the greater probability of being shot. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Could have been C-4. I feel safer. C-4 requires a percussion device. That would be the Cypres in your gear bag. He's right... what was I thinking?!??! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

When was the safest period in skydiving? January 2nd - January 3rd 1954 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Ahh ok. Toronto is one of the safest large cities in North America. What we coined as the "year of the gun" was a year with 52 gun homocides in a population of 2.5 million. Crime rates have been falling pretty consistently, even though guns are more or less banned. I'm happy I live in a place where I am not subjected to the constant fear that is projected by many on this forum. I am happy that my daily conversations with my wife, leading a busy life, are not about death, killing and self preservation, but about more enjoyable things. Like boobies, and which bottle of wine to open with dinner. According to http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/publications/files/reports/2010statsreport.pdf There are some snippets attached.... one cannot just think "homicides" which it would appear that last year was a +10 over your "Year of the Gun." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Check your @dropzone.com email account, please. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

. Did you just relate checking out boobies with your wife to a sex crime? I relate your comment knocking the preparedness game as a foolish "head buried in the sand" endeavor just because you live in the supposedly great safe frozen tundra and was sharing your local site on the number of sex crimes as enlightenment. Course, I like to be prepared to grab the SO's boobies as much as the next guy (or girl), but that doesn't prevent me from thinking about grabbing a gun to protect my boobies either. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Could have been C-4. I feel safer. C-4 requires a percussion device. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Hey!!! You better back the fuck up and get your facts straight. It was the "Red Velvet" jar. "This wasn't your everyday, run-of-the-mill cupcake," "Unlike a thin layer of icing that resides on the top of most cupcakes, this cupcake had a thick layer of icing inside a jar." God help us. We have lost all sense of logic. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

The SO and I play the "holy shit did you see the tits on her" game. I am so happy that in my life, I don't have to play daily pretend games regarding my quick demise. Maybe you should reconsider your views... http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/sexcrimes/ Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Recommendation strictly based on outdoor activities for women: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-lcr-new-38-special-revolver/ When training ladies on how to shoot, do some CQB, home defense, jogging, etc. we use a Ruger Mark III (Standard or Hunter Model) .22 rimfire pistol for target practice... 550 rounds for around $20.00 http://www.ruger.com/products/markIII/index.html Please don't just buy a weapon, get the ccw and then just carry the pistol. Scenario planning and tactics should be a once a week exercise. Teaching situational awareness is easy... when you're out with her, ask her to look around and say things like, "Three guys just came out of that store with weapons, what do you do?" That can be a daily exercise. (the S/O and I play this game with each other). Add our "kid got snatched and..." to the scenario and Brother... you do NOT want to be on the wrong side of momma's gun. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I'm going to skip over one post because you and Paul have given me quite a bit of information that has led me to research... And admittedly, reinforced my own arguments regarding science vs. God. As I take what you and Paul have written, I came across one website that cracked me up and have to share. It sounds so "us." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Thank you. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

What? No "PrisonMingle?" Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

oh, I think I understood it pretty well, just mentioned it because you offered me to look at the US classroom instruction manuals.. http://www.parachute.nl/infonlregels.html You going to talk about it or do it? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

The course is not theoretical; it is performance-oriented. The Instructor will demonstrate by the numbers, teach you by the numbers and make any corrective training on the spot as well as flight debriefings after you've completed a dive. You'll be taught about your equipment How to exit that DZ's particular aircraft (there are some you do NOT want to exit too high out of). How to fly/control your body in freefall. Increasing the complexities of each dive to make you more proficient and placing you on the path of skydiving safely with others. Landing patterns specific to that DZ. AND... While there are those with experience in other extreme/sports that will give them _some_ frame of reference for varying components of skydiving; there is no experience in other sports on dealing with the varying types of malfunctions and the proper procedures in dealing with each one (For example, you have two canopies out.. they can be one in front of the other or side-by-side. If the main canopy is in the front of the reserve canopy ... "What do you do now, Jack? W H A T do you do?!?!?" What if it's the other way around?) That's just one catch me fuck me malfunction... the scariest being the horseshoe malfunction. Scariest to even those with tens of thousands of jumps. You're always more than welcome to review the classroom instruction manuals that all USPA DZ's use... (ya know, so you can move from one DZ to another - anywhere in the country... if your job changes, etc. and pick up right where you left off at your old DZ) http://www.uspa.org/SIM.aspx The bottom line here is.... While you may think it's an inordinate amount of cash for instruction; that's not all the money is for... there are a lot of hidden costs you'll never see broken out by line itemization in an invoice: Gear, land, taxes, insurance, light bills, phone bills, student jumpsuits, student gear maintenance, aircraft, pilots, aircraft fuel, aircraft maintenance, advertising, websites, etc. Oh Yeah... and training materials. If I may suggest that future inquiries be more respectful. You've made yourself sound like that student we've all had that showed up at the DZ as an "extreme sport junkie" with a resume of extreme accomplishments from MMA to sky-sailing, to being pilots, to motocross and my personal favorite - the extreme skateboarder... some whom have done well, but there's always the one who shits his pants while exiting the plane, only to run off after the dive, never to be seen again... BUT, we always have video of those. Always. And, we know how to post to Utube also. Thanks a lot for the information and for your offer, but im not from US, Im Dutch.. Oooooohhh. You're Dutch!!! My apologies. I'll go over it again... r-e-a-l s-l-o-w

The course is not theoretical; it is performance-oriented. The Instructor will demonstrate by the numbers, teach you by the numbers and make any corrective training on the spot as well as flight debriefings after you've completed a dive. You'll be taught about your equipment How to exit that DZ's particular aircraft (there are some you do NOT want to exit too high out of). How to fly/control your body in freefall. Increasing the complexities of each dive to make you more proficient and placing you on the path of skydiving safely with others. Landing patterns specific to that DZ. AND... While there are those with experience in other extreme/sports that will give them _some_ frame of reference for varying components of skydiving; there is no experience in other sports on dealing with the varying types of malfunctions and the proper procedures in dealing with each one (For example, you have two canopies out.. they can be one in front of the other or side-by-side. If the main canopy is in the front of the reserve canopy ... "What do you do now, Jack? W H A T do you do?!?!?" What if it's the other way around?) That's just one catch me fuck me malfunction... the scariest being the horseshoe malfunction. Scariest to even those with tens of thousands of jumps. You're always more than welcome to review the classroom instruction manuals that all USPA DZ's use... (ya know, so you can move from one DZ to another - anywhere in the country... if your job changes, etc. and pick up right where you left off at your old DZ) http://www.uspa.org/SIM.aspx The bottom line here is.... While you may think it's an inordinate amount of cash for instruction; that's not all the money is for... there are a lot of hidden costs you'll never see broken out by line itemization in an invoice: Gear, land, taxes, insurance, light bills, phone bills, student jumpsuits, student gear maintenance, aircraft, pilots, aircraft fuel, aircraft maintenance, advertising, websites, etc. Oh Yeah... and training materials. If I may suggest that future inquiries be more respectful. You've made yourself sound like that student we've all had that showed up at the DZ as an "extreme sport junkie" with a resume of extreme accomplishments from MMA to sky-sailing, to being pilots, to motocross and my personal favorite - the extreme skateboarder... some whom have done well, but there's always the one who shits his pants while exiting the plane, only to run off after the dive, never to be seen again... BUT, we always have video of those. Always. And, we know how to post to Utube also. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I pray you never experience the loss of a child. And, I actually find this thread more disturbing than their actions. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Some WWII Air Corps pilots who dropped Paratroopers. They needed some nifty catch phrase after doing a testicle check and realized they didn't have a pair. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Well, I've had my fifth wheel for over ten years and at about 20 DZs. When I took a job in Houston, the rule was management had to live in Houston, but had a house in Tulsa. So, I lived in the RV for two years and loved it. First thing I did for the long-term living thing was rip out the standard RV couch/dining set and put in two big man lazy boy recliners with a center table, a flat screen tv and a computer desk. Am Army buddy and I are looking at some wooded property here in Oklahoma to pour a couple of pads as our retirement base camp. You guys are SO gonna love this. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.