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Miss Beverly Hills Thinks God Wants Gays Put to Death
okalb replied to Andy9o8's topic in Speakers Corner
The left needs to completely ignore this. If they go after her they will give her the attention she is looking for. If the left goes after her the right will get behind her and elevate her status. She could become the next Sarah Palin. Yeah yeah, I know that my posting this is going against my own advice :) Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Freedom OF religion means freedom FROM religion
okalb replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
There are plenty of us atheists who believe in the possibility that a superior power could exist. I am humble enough to know that there is a lot we don't yet know or understand about the universe. As soon as someone can show me any legitimate evidence that god exists I would be more than happy to believe. Until then the existence of the christian god is just as real and just as believable as what the scientologists believe. Jesus Christ is no different to me than L Ron Hubbard. The only difference is that Christainity has been around longer and has convinced more people to believe. Give it another thousand years and who knows. Maybe we will see that L Ron was right. I find it funny when Christians refer to other "religions" as cults. Just because yours has been around longer and has more followers doesn't make it any more or less of a cult than any others. I guess it just means that they have better marketing. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
US waves white flag in disastrous 'war on drugs'
okalb replied to dreamdancer's topic in Speakers Corner
While I don't disagree with what you are saying, I don't think that is what Nightingale meant. You are talking about educating users. I think she is talking about educating them before they are users. She mentioned smoking. People who smoke nowadays know damn well that it is bad for them and choose to smoke anyway. They key to education is the fewer number of kids starting to smoke. It wasn't an instant fix, it took quite some time but the number of smokers amongst the younger generations is way down. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Seven shot dead at US army base in Texas
okalb replied to masterblaster72's topic in Speakers Corner
I am asking an honest question here, not trying to start a fight. I am really trying to understand. I agree that “shall not be infringed” is self explanatory, but my understanding is that it is the “right to bear arms” that shall not be infringed. If the government were to ban all weapons except crossbows for instance. You still have the right to bear arms. They have not infringed on that. You may not be able to bear the arms that you would prefer to bear but you still have the right to bear arms. Am I missing something? Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
It absolutely should go. I was referring to rules about taking action against fellow soldiers. DADT is nothing more than government approved discrimination. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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I understand exactly what you are saying and my only response is too bad. Suck it up and follow the rules or be discharged. Soldiers can think whatever they want and as long as they don't take action based on those feelings I don't care. I understand that it is an emotional thing. So what, there are plenty of times in the military that you have to control your emotions and follow orders whether you like it or not. Why should this be any different? Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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They said the same thing about blacks and whites serving together in the military. It caused some problems for a while but eventually most people realized that it was idiotic. Now they rarely have those problems. The same should happen in this case and anyone who does take their moronic beliefs and turn them into action should be punished to the fullest extent of the military code. They should receive a dishonorable discharge from the military. They don't deserve to represent this country if they can't behave like a responsible member of society. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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Senators turn back ID requirement for immigrant healthcare
okalb replied to bodypilot90's topic in Speakers Corner
I actually don't have a problem with having to show ID but just tp play devil's advocate here, lets change a few words. I think everyone should register their handguns I don't see why registering a handgun is such a big deal. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Please do throw those out. It was fine before the republicans pushed for it to count as a double murder. Most reasonable people will agree that the motivation behind pushing for that legislation was precisely so that people like you could use this argument. Ask any liberal that supports choice and they will most likely tell you that they would gladly it be a single homicide if it means keeping the right to choose. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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If you think about it that must have been one hell of a boat. He needed to build a refridgeration system to keep the polar bears and penguins cold. A heating system to keep the lions warm. We won't even talk about the food he had to get for all the animals to eat with all of the different animal diets. What about the carnivorous creatures? Did he have to bring more than 2 of the animals that the carnivorous animals eat so that he could feed them but still have at least 2 left in the end? Like most of the bible, this story makes perfect sense Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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Oh, absolutely. Luckily it has no chance of passing. I am just amazed that he sponsored it. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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This should spark an interesting "discussion" here in SC. http://www.wtol.com/global/story.asp?s=10775734 http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/07/22/abortion.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=102 Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
That's great, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. The question then becomes until the world is a perfect place and we have what you and many other have suggested, do you think that homosexuals should be allowed to marry or should they be discriminated against? Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Anyone on here deal with group health plans in FL. I need a small business policy and the guy I used to deal with is no longer in the business. If you can help, post your contact info and I will get in touch with you asap. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
Please take another look at his post. When I asked what he would think if civil unions for all was not an option and only marriage was his response was ***Well I still believe the word marriage should be reserved for a man and woman. I doubt my feelings about this will change, and it is unfortunate that that means others will be treated unequally because of it.*** That is the part that I was responding to. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
While I think what you just said is sad and downright mean, I respect the fact that at least you openly admit that you would rather see others denied rights that you have just because you don't agree with them. It would be nice if others here had the balls to do the same. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
What part of heterosexuals are allowed to marry the person the WISH to marry and heterosexuals are not don't you understand. Once again you are resorting to a completely disingenuous argument to defend an undefendable position. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
While I completely agree with you, from a practical standpoint that probably will never happen. So the question then becomes, if the ideal solution that you stated doesn't happen what is an acceptable alternative. Do you condone discriminating against homosexuals because your "perfect" solution is not a viable option? Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
How is discriminating against someone based their sexual preference different from discriminating against them based on race? I read and understand what you are saying. You clearly didn't do the same for Bill's posts. There are 2 problems with your statement. Number one is that civil unions don't currently give the same legal rights as marriage. Bill has posted the legal differences many times. Number 2 is that you are once again advocating equal yet separate. Let’s just say for a minute that marriage and civil unions gave exactly the same rights (which they don't). If they have the same rights why should it be a separate thing? Either both should be allowed to marry or both should only be allowed civil unions. To call them something different yet give them the same rights somehow makes the homosexual relationship something less than the heterosexual relationship which once again is bigoted no matter how you try to justify it. If it were up to me the government would have nothing to do with any marriages. They would issue civil union certificates to any couple that wants them and people could choose to have a religious ceremony (marriage) if they want. Until that happens there should be no discrimination. If the government recognizes heterosexual marriages it must recognize homosexual marriages. Again you are playing word games. Change it to say that heterosexuals are allowed to marry the person that they WISH to marry and homosexuals are not and it changes the argument. Seeing it any other way is once again ignoring the intent of the argument to defend your discriminatory beliefs. Do I find the things that you list to be a bit offensive, yes. Do I think that they should be legally prevented from doing it, no. If all of the parties involved are consenting adults who are responsible enough to enter into the legal institution of marriage then I see no justification to stop them. The only exception to that would be the production of offspring which you excluded from your question. As for multiple spouses, again I don’t like it but I don’t really think there should be any legal basis to restrict it. All I would say is that the financial/tax benefits should not extend out to multiple spouses in a way that would give them a benefit over a traditional marriage of 2 people. In other words the total benefit would have to be the same whether it was a marriage between 2 people or a marriage between 4 people. It should not cost the taxpayers additional money is what I am trying to say. The same way I say I don’t like it but I would not restrict it with regard to those other types of marriages you mention, is how it should be with regards to homosexual marriages. Just because I don’t like something that someone does or I disagree with it, doesn’t mean that I think they should not be legally allowed to do it. If it doesn’t hurt others or negatively affect the general population, then there should be no reason to restrict it. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Cali Gay Marriage Opinion to be Released Today
okalb replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
You are wrong, he is comparing apples to apples. The apples aren’t even of different colors. If you can’t see that, it is because you are choosing not to see it. You are playing silly word games to justify discriminating against homosexuals. Tell yourself whatever you need to so that you can sleep at night, but anyone with half a brain can see right through it. You are supporting discriminating against people because of their sexual preference. I think a lot of people would have a lot more respect for you if you just came out and said it. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Zhills 7th Annual Memorial Day 4 Way Scrambles - Sunday May 24
okalb replied to lauras's topic in Events & Places to Jump
We are discussing that right now. We are toying with the idea of a rain date for the 4th of July weekend. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
Zhills 7th Annual Memorial Day 4 Way Scrambles - Sunday May 24
okalb replied to lauras's topic in Events & Places to Jump
Fallrate shouldn't be a problem. You are like the 4th person who said the same thing -
Zhills 7th Annual Memorial Day 4 Way Scrambles - Sunday May 24
okalb replied to lauras's topic in Events & Places to Jump
It's a shame you can't be there to defend your title this year Karl. We will just have to have fun without you. Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana -
This post is not directed at anyone in particular, I am just curious. How is it that several people posting in this thread are so concerned that someone could potentially be wrongly labeled a terrorist and lose their guns, but those same people had no problem with someone potentially being wrongly labeled a terrorist and being held against their will in Gitmo for years with no trial or proof. I believe they usually said something like "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about". So civil liberties only apply when it relates to the 2nd but nothing else? Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana
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It's a veg-a-table. You know, it's dangerous for you to be here in the frozen food section. Because you could melt all this stuff. (You may now return to your previously scheduled partisan bickering) Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana