Lindsey

I've tried antidepressants off and on and never really found any that do much for me. Or, if they do, the effect seems to be short-lived, and I suspect it's that placebo effect - I reach out for help, and the very act of taking action to ask for help also empowers me to take action on the other stuff I know helps me. When I've used antidepressants they've worked very well. Problem is that I just don't like taking them. Have had LOTS more benefit from medicines than from "working through it" somehow. BUT I don't want to be on an antidepressant. Maybe working things out from their core (psychotherapy?) will, in the long run, be a more efficacious option. Who knows? That's why it's great to have options. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

CompuServe HA! Was kinda hard to find all the world's most up-to-date information with a quick google searh back then. I have not noticed research libraries becoming obsolete, despite Google. Sometimes you need to know the information you are getting is not being fabricated by some 14 y/o kid. Yep. That was my point. Cracked me up that there was some assumption that "older people" aren't as internet-savvy and therefore are incapable of research...lol. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

CompuServe HA! Was kinda hard to find all the world's most up-to-date information with a quick google searh back then. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

I wonder if those old codgers at the bottom of the graph are using the internet primarily for research while the younger kids (most of whom have never actually *done* any meaningful research) are just kinda fartin' around...lol. Then there's the whole issue of assuming that the internet is the only way to research something. What did people do in the 80's??? linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Because GWB would not lie....ummm unless he were talking. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Since he had become eligible for the draft, he really didn't have a whole lot options. He chose the least risky of them all, pretty much. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

CHICKENHAWK, dear, not coward. CHICKENHAWK. Which is exactly what he is. It is nice to be able to actually UNDERSTAND the words you use, isn't it. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Don't roll your eyes at me like that! Bitch. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Anyone who has been a tandem dummy a couple of times is a skydiver and is welcome to participate in discussions on these forums. :) linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Fucknugget??? HAHAHAHA!!!! Mind if I use that? But it'll be a much more endearing term the way I use it. "You don't need that silly ol' job, ya' cute little fucknugget. You need a sugah mama!" -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

I'm not a big fan of antidepressant medications for people who only have mild mood symptoms. BUT, "of little use to all but the most severely depressed" seems a little far-fetched to me. I think of the most severely depressed being people with psychotic depression, who are suicidal, and those who cannot function in society because of their symptoms. I don't know how these researchers define "most severely depressed." The article speaks to people with mild depression, and their outcomes not being better than placebo. I wonder what they found (or if they even looked at) people with more moderate but chronic or recurrent symptoms. I'd be hard-pressed to believe that these folks don't benefit from antidepressants. They mention counseling/psychotherapy and there was a suggestion that SSRIs not be used until these other modalities have failed! That's just crap, in my opinion. Not because psychotherapy isn't a good option, but because OPTIONS are good. Being able to CHOOSE psychotherapy or medication or both is a good thing. As we're so involved in discussions about socialized medicine and about Evidence-based medicine, the danger is in lumping all individuals and decisions about their health care into some algorithm that may have shown to be true for a majority of people. What tends to be the best treatment modalities for the majority isn't always true for each person. I might be just a tad sensitive to this, though, as I've been dealing with a government health-care system lately (VA) that won't allow certain treatment options to be used until we've proven that another one...or two....or more have failed. But I guess I'm just kind of ranting now. What was I saying earlier about tangential thinking??? LOL. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

I thought it laughable when we were arguing over whether Clinton was a chickenhawk (since GWB obviously is)....but this is just stupid now. Clinton MUST be a Chickenhawk since it's more dangerous to fly a jet than a Cessna....lol...or is Kallend the Chickenhawk now. I'm not following these thought processes any more. But maybe my thinking's just not QUITE that tangential yet. GEEZ! linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

He also bettered himself by learning to fly airplanes. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

I still do research in the library for the most part.... Dark ages, I know. :) linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

USS Cole? lol...neither a Chickenhawk nor a pussy. :) -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

My ex-husband runs a small operation out of the Malvern airport. It's really students and tandems. He only goes out when he has people scheduled. There are a few experienced jumpers that come out when he's there. His business phone number is 501-758-1200, and his name is Jesse. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

...particularly the older generations who are not familiar with the internet enough to research on their own. That just struck me as funny.... :) linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

No matter how many people "QUIT" it will never be back like it was in the really *good* days that I loved. We'll see if the improvements help. We'll see. I kinda miss that cocheese guy already. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Well, ya' know what??? He doesn't have to FUCKING be there AT ALL! Give the kid a little credit. I think most princes wouldn't go at all. Good on him. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

My 10 y/o thinks Hannah Montana is great. Thank God (for his sake) that he doesn't suggest that we listen to anything other than MY music in MY truck. :) Great when kids know their place. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

So when I hire people to cut the grass, work on the flower beds, and keep the pool, I'll just shy away from Mexicans. Black folks and drug addicts will work for less anyway around here....of course they won't stay out of my fridge, either for drugs or beer, but at least we speak the same language. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Well, skydiving may be more stressful for some than nursing...and nursing more stressful than parenting....or vice versa. What makes my adrenaline glands work overtime just might not do it to you.... linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Well, sure. Adrenaline ->sugar->adipose tissue-> fucks up your endothelium->coronary artery disease. It's kind of a no-brainer. NOW...whether skydiving is worse than nursing is worse than parenting is an individual thing, imho. Either way, don't stress over it....or you'll die. linz -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

I've been hit in a very mean and nasty way, and I've been "bitch-slapped" to get my attention. I'm still grateful for the guy who decided it might be a good idea to bitch slap me and wake my ass up. Not that it's really held, but it was a nice gesture. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

Sure I'd jump my kid's pack job. I'd jump just about anybody's pack job if I didn't consider the person a damn fool. My kid probably packs better than most jumpers pack...lol. Ain't that sad? -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail