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I'm wondering what to put the GPS in so it will float. A rubber duckie maybe? I'd probably spray paint it black so it would not stick out. Maybe some fishing bobbers? I can probably get the stuff by CC and bring it with me.

Here is a link to a GPS tracker for about $29. This one can be tracked from miles away, so I could drop it in the water near Vancouver, and track it from Washington, DC. I don't know if I could track multiple ones of these on one phone, but I'm guessing I can. My thought would be to set these up, wrap in plastic or put in something that floats, and drop 5-6 of these in the area and see what happens. We might not be able to simulate the money, but we could at least see where the currents brought the devices. It might take multiple iterations in that we can't simulate a flood until there is one. I would just need someone in the area to drop these. I would buy them, set them up, charge them, send them to Portland, and then we could go from there. I'm thinking I'd want these dropped near Battle Ground, maybe 2 or so, a couple in the Columbia, etc. Any input? Where would you want these dropped? https://www.amazon.com/LandAirSea-Waterproof-Magnetic-Personal-Location/dp/B06XVZ6Y4T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?c=ts&keywords=GPS%2BTrackers&qid=1699295218&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A554289011&s=gps&sr=1-1-spons&ts_id=617650011&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

Searches for "cocaine in ocean" bring up a lot of articles of drugs and money. I remember one from Florida years ago. Essentially smugglers would have to dump their money or risk prison. River banks have all sorts of debris. A packet of money may sink in a tank, but maybe not in moving water. I was not aware there were left and right handed forks. Interesting.

I thought I had SlimKing on ignore, but I guess I didn't. After the long underwear comment, I definitely have him on ignore. Completely delusional. My consistent oberservation about the delusional people in the Vortex is "What other things in the world are they delusional about?" Flat earth? Bigfoot, the CIA, etc. He can try to post on the Facebook group but he won't last long over there.

History.net has this, but it may be from Toswaw. Maybe OleMiss can ask Bill to confirm. Bill Mitchell, a college student seated in 15A, reported seeing thermal long underwear extending into the gap between Cooper’s pant cuffs and the loafers he wore. I wear a lot of boots. If I wear Chukkas, which are anke high, you can see my socks if I cross my leg, or if shorter pants ride up. This is what it sounds like Cooper was wearing. If I had suit pant on with Chukkas and was wearing long underwear or a jump suit underneath, someone would notice for sure. When I wear engineer or motorcylce boots it is hard to see my socks at all, and certainly in cowboy boots they are not visible.

Is there any chance that any of the parachutes could have been bright red and yellow, or any color besides pinkish or green? Also, do we know when anyone first commented about Cooper wearing long underwear under his suit? I believe it was just Bill Mitchell, but I'm not sure if that is in the 302s or just in one of his interviews.

Any idea what the white para cord on the side two handles was for?

To me knapsack means a backpack, typically for camping or maybe books. Boy Scouts or a hiker may use the term knapsack. I've not known military to use the term knapsack, but I guess it is possible. I was not in in the 1940s, but a military pack was called a rucksack in the Army and still is. A satchel is more of a shoulder bag. I do wonder why he did not force the issue on the knapsack. Maybe he just wanted to prove how resourceful he was. Seems foolish.

I just don't see Cooper having a real bomb with live uninsulated wires bouncing around in his briefcase. It would be too easy for those to hti eachother and set off the bomb. If they were not connected to the battery and the bomb, then it would take him a few seconds or more to connect, which could mean the FBI had time to jump him. I personally have been zapped a number of times doing electrical work thinking that my wires would not touch. I was also shocked badly with an explosives detonator in high school, point being that live wires are dangerous. If he was that skilled you'd think he would have rigged up a switch or done what the guy in Airport did using a wooden pull tab that when pulled connected the circuit. But like most things in this case, I would not be surprised if the bomb was real or fake. I just lean to it being fake, especially if he traveled by plane or train in his journey. Being found with dynamite on him would get him sent to jail, whereas a fake bomb may be able to be passed off as a gag if he was searched pre-hijack.

Has anyone confirmed that the break in was actually the Heisson store? I've been looking at the FBI flight path, and for a while I've thought the jump spot was between Battleground and Orchards, but I'm thinking now instead of Battleground being the far northern point, I'm thinking Battleground town center is the southern point, with the northern point being the north part of Battleground, into Cherry Grove not too far from the Daybreak Regional Park, which is right on the Lewis River. I did some reading on the diatoms, and emailed with Tom, and it sounds to me like the diatoms could have come from another river as well as the Columbia. So I'm thinking that if a river flows into the Columbia, that spot would have diatoms from both rivers, but if that river flowed into the Columbia north of Tena Bar, then the diatoms might be different, or not. In summary, I'm thinking the LZ was a bit north of what I've thought, but it is a stretch to think the money went into the Lewis River there and flowed into the Columbia 9 miles north of Tena Bar, and ended up at Tena Bar. It would have taken a ship getting the money bag hooked on its propellor to bring it down to Tena Bar. I could see movement of a few miles max, but 9 miles not so much.

Great movie. Good info. Glad to see another Cary Grant fan.

When do you think it was buried?

When do you think it was buried?

Nice find. Is that 3 miles West of flight path? How far from Heisson store? What are you thinking for timeline? Lands near the store then is heard at the house or the other way around?

Did the Cliff Ammerman discussion at CC get recorded? I could have sworn he mentioned A7s or A6s. I was right next to him and remember looking at him after he said it. I think it was in the context of well after Portland. He may have misspoke or I misheard, but I’ve been an aviation fan most of my life and I’m pretty sure he mentioned Navy A6s or A7s coming from somewhere. It looks like the Reca shills are at it again. My only comment is that I don’t know if Osiadeciz was vetted. He seems to have a law enforcement background, but I’m skeptical.

For those not on Facebook, there was a good discussion on two of the flight paths. Eric did the Western one and Chris the Air Force aka FBI one, as it’s called I think.

That does make sense given the timeline. Sounds like he may not have time to tie the reserve to himself. I’d just love to see a break in this case as big as the money find was.

What was the total amount of para cord Cooper cut? Do we know if it is like the current para cord that has 5 or 6 smaller pieces of string inside? As I look at the harnesses, I wonder if Cooper may have put the harness on and then tied the reserve to the harness in the front. It seems possible. Then if the main opened he would have landed with both and been able to discard both in the same place. Maybe someday someone will stumble across remnants.

Jonbenet Ramsey DNA info just for visual reference. I was surprised they released this

The knots yes.

Right. He’s in Seattle. There must have been knapsacks available. He didn’t even grab someone’s luggage. Anything might have been better than that bank bag. Georger makes an interesting observation though too.

I think it was Martin who said there were chutes that were orange, green, and white. Orange to signal, white to hide in snow, green to hide in the forest. I remember finding that interesting.

Couldn’t an argument be made that he wanted to get to the ground as fast as possible?

What’s the difference between the two canopies? I’m assuming speed or maneuvering? I’ve been out of touch, but I thought we landed on the chutes being basically very similar. One is newer but smaller canopy. One is slightly older but larger canopy. So to an amateur the differences aren’t much, right?

If Cooper’s body was found and there was $6k missing, the flight attendants would be under the microscope, especially Tina. We do know her brother in law shielded her in a way from publicity. If I was 21 and someone handed me a stack of $, maybe I would have taken it, and then you’re hooked. Flo did say Tina had something to hide, which may be case related or may not be. I’m not a psych, but I’ve talked to a number of them, and they say shame and guilt can oftentimes be at the root of some depression/anxiety. I don’t think Fly’s theory is really that whacky. It’s possible.