Ron

Only a few think it was negligence. I don't. Oh we had an SOP in place, but it was not tested, or refined. We never thought we needed it. And if you want to blame someone for that look at Clinton. Bush only had the Office 9 mths before 9/11. I doubt a plan such as that was not a big issue compared to all the other issues. Just keep fishing. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

He did not kill his kids, she did. While I would not vote him dad of the year, he didn't kill the kids. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You guessed wrong. They would be charged with manslaughter and go to trial. At that trial a decision would be made as to if they were a danger, if it was intentional...ect. A verdict would be read and a punishment (Or lack of) would be done. Don't confuse a medical condition that rendered someone unconscious to a premeditated murder. It did not suddenly become a crime....Murder is murder. One could argue that anyone that kills another person is insane. Should we let any killer go? How about a rapist that was molested as a child...Is he a criminal? Yes he is. Would you have let Hitler off? I understand it...I also understand a criminal act. I am not saying take a person who is depressed and throw them in jail...I am saying take a person who commited a crime and punish them for the crime. I don't see a mental issue as a free pass to murder someone. As Rehmwa said alcoholism is a disease, but we throw folks in jail for driving drunk. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You got spunk girl....Welcome to SC "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats a PA.... Me as a liberal.....Wow thats funny. I feel like handing my wallet to the next homeless person I see. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, it would not be any of my business how much you, or he gave. That is up to you or him. I don't tend to tell others how to spend their money, and I don't like when others try to tell me how to spend mine. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Are the kids still dead? How hard is it to grasp the concept of do a crime do the time? Mental problems or not, she commited a crime. Having a mental hang up is not a free pass. I understand exactly the process and results of a brain disease. However she still killed 5 kids. Would you let Hitler off? And if she did get healed....Would you let her loose? Or whould she got o jail? She should never be in society again. She is insane and has killed 5 small helpless children. No matter how you color it she is a criminal. I wish people would stop using excuses in this country. She IS a criminal. She DID murder her children. Insane or not that makes her a criminal. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Good, I like to keep people guessing http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1346362#1346362 "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Only hurts the first time. Mentally ill people we try to help. Mentally ill people who commit crimes we punish for committing those crimes. Do the crime, do the time. One could argue that Hitler was insane and therfore not responsible for his actions....To those people I say "I don't care, he was a criminal". "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Religions don't seem to think so. That ever stops anyone? I don't have the time to look through three books to find a sentance. If you look at the start of this BS I asid that DA wrote that. He then accused me of accusing him. He could have said maybe, Im not sure but he blew it up. Like I said I could not care what he thinks. If Ihave the time between work and school to read some I'll look for it....Till then we will have me thinking he copied it, and him saying he did not. Like I said not worth my time either way. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

In case you missed it...She is a Criminal. So she belongs with criminals. She is insane. That is not a crime. Killing 5 children IS a crime. Insane or not, she is also a criminal and a threat. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

She is a danger. You said that counsiling and medication MIGHT help. She has killed 5 of her own children. She is insane, she should never be free again. Her walking the streets is a risk we are putting on society as a whole. The cost of being wrong is she kills another. She is already an ACE. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Offers like that and I might move to TX "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Hell no, I am wearing mine today at work....Really. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

In the US you are innocent till proven quilty. BS. Firing on commercial airliners required the approval of the Prz, and we didn't know we were under attack till the second plane hit. All in all it was less than one hour till first strike till it was done. You mentioned Pane Stewarts plwne: 1. It was AFTER 9/11 so new procedures were in place. 2. We had HOURS to fly next to it once the new programs saw that it was not responding or not on its planned flight path.. Go fish. I find the best part is you believe this stuff. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No offense WTC93 was the first. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

What was he going to do? Seralize her against her and her husbands will? This woman is insane and killed 5 of her children. She should never see the sun again. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats rich. I have gone out and gotten job offers just for fun. Hell, I got offered a sales job yesterday. You are killing me with this line of BS. We don't know what its like to be in your place....Yeah right. I bet NO ONE has ever worked his way through school before, or been broke. I however never blamed anyone but myself...so maybe you and I are different. I don't love steak, but I do enjoy it. Thats pleasure, not love. Love is pleasure. Sure I have, you just ignored it. I'll recap for you: 1. Not all degrees will bring in enough money to offset the cost of school. Case studies: A friend of mine has a degree in English and makes less than me with no degree. I have a friend that has a degree but does not work. I have a buddy who sent his kid to school and she took "Dance". She is working teaching dance (A job she did not need a degree for) and making less than a guy at MacDonalds. 2. Not all that go to school will finish. So any money spent to send them there is wasted. I can list the number of folks that I know that went to school but never finished...I bet you can too. The current system works pretty well. If you want to make the big bucks you EARN it. a. Join the military and behave and get out with college money. b. Take out school loans and then pay them off with your big money job later, c. Work your way through school. People have been doing this...Others have done this, you could too. Instead you just want it given to you. And blame others why it never worked out right. Like I said...It's a bad investment. Also supply and demand needs to be taken into account. If I have 100 job openings and only one qualified canidate then that candidate can demand a high salary. If I have one job opening and 100 candidates...I can pay min wage. If everyone has an MBA, an MBA would be worthless. Your socialist ideas are a far cry from based in reality, and directly against the ideals that this country is based on. Plus you think allowing people to got o college would work any better than providing them an education 1-12? Not gonna happen. We pay to have kids go to high school and they come out with a degree and can't read. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If he moves to TX, I'll buy him a cowboy hat if he promises to wear it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I frankly don't care what you think. You have to live with what you do, not me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Dude no creative editing on my part. I asked a question: Did you donate 3% of your income? You said: No. But then you went to cry about a bunch of things I didn't ask about. Did you give 3 % of your income? Yes, or No? Not excuses just yes or No? Me? No I did not. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The XL file is to big to attach "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes. This is the latest thing you have to bitch about Bush. Is the event a big deal? Well Duh, of course it is. But my comment was more along the lines of "You said it, it is no ones Business how much an INDIVIDUAL donates. It is sad that the haters choose to let their hatred for a guy over shaddow any amount of good the guy does....And after all it is still none of anyones business." "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It only hurts the first time "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334