Ron

You have never been banned...You can't read unless you come back as a guest....Not that I'd know about that or anything. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Foil years ago. Kendo for a few years. Even took Iaijutsu. But that was all years ago, now I skydive. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I am calling him a jackass since he is using his little girl as a pawn to fight a battle she does not care about. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Huh, did you miss this part: He admitted he was wrong, but only after he had brokered an agreement not to be charged. He was guilty, and he is a liar...Proven liar. If it was not illegal then why did he not admit it till after he was not going to be charged? Or why was he disbarred? Go fish. He was not a leader then. Kerry was trying to be. I find lying to be abad quality in a leader...Something Clinton and Kerry both do. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I have been saying this is in our future for years. No, it will be much worse. BSR's will be guidelines for the FAA to write its own rules. They will not be written by skydivers, but instead some pilots, many of whom don't like much less understand skydiving. If the FAA starts really looking at us...we are in DEEP trouble. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It is not an end run around the Constituition. The 1st Amendment is to prevent the Church running the State like the Catholic Church did in Spain, or having the State run the Church like The Church of England. It also allows the free worship of whatever you want, or nothing at all. It does not in any way say that there would not be religion in Government...They start Congress with a prayer and have since 1776. Now I am not religious in the slightest, but the Constitution does not say what most think. I have no problem with either *Theory* being taught as long as both are taught and both are taught as what they are...Possible, not fact. For the record, I tend to go with evolution, not creation. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Theory "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Really? Where? Some claim things like "Bush never finished his National Guard service". And they have no proof. I call BS when they say that since they don't have proof. However, I don't defend Bush on his DUI. He did it. I will say I don't see it as that big of a deal. I know lots of folks that have had a DUI. If he had killed someone while drunk...Say by crashing a car in a river while drunk killing the passenger. I would have a problem...But it seems like others don't. Now as for Clinton...Like I said if he got a hummer in the Oval Office thats between him, her and his wife. Once he lied about it under oath...Well it is now a big deal. The most powerful man in the world lied about a blowjob...what else is he gonna lie about? So he only agreed to tell the truth after he was told he would not be charged. Kerry did whatever gave him political juice. He either committed war crimes or lied and said he did. Either was I don't trust the guy. So if you asked me who I would trust more: 1. A guy that had a drunk Driving charge in 1976 when he was 30, paid the fine, and stopped drinking totally 10 years later. BTW he was not the President at the time. 2. A guy that cheated on his wife, lied about it under oath, and finally admitted to it only after having been caught. And at the time was the leader of the free world. 3. A guy that either committed war crimes, or lied about committing them to get political juice. I'll go with the guy that drove drunk, got caught and finally quit drinking. Just to recap: 1. Don't have anyproof? I'll call BS. 2. Get caught but not charged...You are still guilty. 3. Tell Congress under oath you did something...I'll tend to believe you or think you are a liar. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Your Uncle clearly has issues. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You assume that I want/care: So don't assume what I want. Like I said I don't care if you say it or not. Bullshit, no one is holding a gun to anyones head over this. The jackass that is suing for his little girl in CA...He does not even have custody of his kid. And the girls Mother AND THE GIRL HERSELF don't mind it. He is suing since he is agnostic and trying to be a pain in the ass. THAT is what I don't get. No one is going to tar and feather anyone if they don't say it. Then don't say it. Or omit the words "Under God" then. Hell they could say "Under Todd" for all I really care. I care about some moron acting like a jackass even when the "injuried party" is not injured. I care about how some people are so anti-everthing that they have to raise a stink about a couple of words. Saying or not saying the words "Under God" means nothing to me. I am not religious. In fact I get more pissed at the fact that people don't stand and remove head gear when the Anthem plays. You don't want to say "under God"? Fine....I really Don't care. They wanna make a big deal out of it...Now I care since I think they are just beinga pain in the ass for no reason. I said it before I'd rather scrap the whole Pledge and just have people say the pramble to the Constitution.....You would be amazed at how many people don't know that, but can recite lines from a "Friends" episode, or the latest gansta rap. Like I said....the words "Under God"....I could not care. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No but it is fun to blindly defend my God fearing leader. [zombie voice]Must defend leader....must defend leader [/zombie voice] Aw, I bet you say the same about me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Gee I'm a fencer I think the Hot fork will be here in a min. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well we have a thread on here that I would LOVE to see what they think about it. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1311069#1311069 You wanna get them to answer it here, there or on the other post? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Agreed but maybe you should take that up with http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1431759#1431759 JCD11235 I like Bush and have proof Clinton was a liar. The UN can't be trusted. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thank God Clinton is gone and Kerry lost "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I guess if you are so far left you would see that as "balanced". That does not make it true. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No change. You claim Bush is a bad person due to a getting caught driving drunk...I know folks that have gotten DUI's...I don't consider them less of a person. I have in my past driven drunk...Not smart, but I don't consider me to be a bad person for it. I would venture to guess that you know folks that have driven drunk....You might even have driven drunk yourself. Clinton lied under oath about a really small issue. He lied to try and cover his ass...I wonder what else he would lie about? At any rate he was guilty of perjury and while he was disbarred, the left didn't seem to care at all. If he had come out and said "Yes I had sex with the fat chick in the Blue Dress" I would not have respected him, but it would not have been CRIMINAL. But he lied, then tried to play games; Define "sex", what is the definiton of "is". He lied under oath. Kerry admitted to war crimes in testimony to Congress. He did it to become a political power. Now he either did commit war crimes like he said he did...Or he lied to Congress. Which is it? Is he a murderer, or a liar? So while you might have driven drunk (I have), I doubt you have commited war crimes, or lied to Congress under oath. I have not (Although I have been on the floors of both the House and Senate, I didn't lie...Of course I also didn't speak.) "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Clinton was found guilty of perjury and was removed from the bar. Kerry Admitted under oath to war crimes. Just because he was not charged does not mean he was not guilty...Hell he ADMITTED to it. Unless he was lying under oath...So which was it? Did he commit war crimes, or did he lie? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Look at the spin about this subject here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4279605 Thats not a spin to the left? More Spin Here is a little Gem about Mapes: No left spin? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Who's your daddy? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

My team had them. 3 of them blew apart in less than 100 jumps. If you look on the old cover of Paragear "The 4 way next to a cloud by Kent" you can see one of the jumpsuits arms is blown open. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well, lets see Clinton lied under oath, but he kept his job. Kerry comited war crimes according to his own testimony. Perjury and murder vs drunk driving.... I know people who drove drunk...I don't think they are bad people. Most people who commit murder are in jail, and most who lie under oath get put in jail as well... Go Fish. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

NPR is left. And I listen to NPR everyday. They spin things to left all the time. I never heard more than a few words about CBS using false documents against Bush...But when they thought it was true I heard about it every 30 min. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I started flying years ago. My solo was THE best point in my life. It gave me so much confidence. I just started learning to fly Helicopters....Now thats a MF. Good luck. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Some advice that was sent to me...It ry to live like this: I was looking to buy a BWM coupe...But I didn't since my car is only a few years old. 20% of my income goes into 401k and stocks on a DRIP plan. I also have a savings account and any money I make skydiving, coaching in the tunnel, selling something goes directly into that account. I live in a trailer on a DZ...Looking to buy a house if a job I am looking at comes through. Had a 401k now for 11 years. Some years I didn't put much in, some I put a lot. It is doing OK. No credit card debt at all. The only thing I owe on is my car. I don't think anyone here has a problem with living in the moment. However, I see way to many people living like there is no tomorrow. While you should have fun, don't do it at the cost of having debt. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334