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but I never said that... to be clear. It sounds crazy. I just don't want it attributed to me...

Here, there was an informal acceptance of assistance from Fort Lewis contingent on higher authorization. and they had planned to start on the 14th... delayed to the 21st.

That piece had nothing to do with a delay.. I doubt the FBI ever knew about that piece in the local paper.

No, no, I meant the 8th.. not the 15th. It looks like they had some informal approval at one level on the 8th and formal approval on the 15th. I know the military has its processes. But, this is irrelevant to my post because it isn't about the Army search approval sequence and process. Front running just means they were aware that there was an upcoming initial extensive ground search and got a public statement out ahead of it.. You know Tina's brother in law was FBI,, I mention it for others.. but he would have access to case info and it is known that they were very protective of Tina. I can't think of any other reason that piece would get put in the paper, they must have planted it intentionally and the timing is suspicious. They revealed case evidence.. though not entirely accurate, a slight lie. Tina didn't talk publicly for decades.. It doesn't prove anything but it is extremely suspicious behaviour.

It was informal approval... not relevant. You are right it started on the 21st, it was delayed by snow on the 25th,, I misread that as delayed until... Both of these points are irrelevant for the post. The FBI was pursuing a ground search before the 8th.

I'll toss in a bonus,, this is polarizing, some will reject it others will be intrigued. But it happened. You have to admit that it is very odd. On March 2, 1972 FBI WEEKLY SUMMARY Plans being made for ground search of area in near future. On March 8th the FBI secured Army authorization for a ground search and on March 9th Hoover authorized it. It was planned for a week later but got delayed until Feb 25th and completed April 17.. But, on March 8, a brief note randomly appeared in the local PA paper with no other context.. it said that Tina was offered money from the hijacker and she didn't accept because it wouldn't be right. That statement wasn't exactly true, Tina asked for the money and took it then she claimed she handed it back because it was against company policy to take tips. So, what is going on... Why did they place this public statement in the local paper right when the search was authorized Tina never gave out case evidence and they were all instructed not to say anything not already mentioned in the papers.. This was completely out of character. Did Tina's FBI brother in law try to get ahead of the search. IMO, Tina, her sister and brother in law FBI agent were front running the search. If Cooper's body and/or the money was found missing a bundle, Tina would be looked at by the FBI because she already told them she handled some money. They planted the slightly false story in the public to front run the search, there is no other good reason. Tina moved to upstream of TBAR in 78/79.. There is no proof Tina actually kept the money and there never will be unless she confirms it. This is the note, nothing else, no other hijacking related article.. March 8,1972..

Ok, I feel bad for that mistake so I will post something new from my files... This is a redacted letter that I was able to get unredacted... WHY was it redacted?? and it has elements/themes that were in Gunther's book.. it may have been written by "Clara"... or Cooper himself.. gave her $5000 cash... close to TBAR amount?? The letter isn't written as fact.. but to claim Cooper was dead and he was a good guy.. just like the Gunther narrative which was published much later. This letter is fascinating because of the redactions and similarity to Gunther's book, I can't see some rando writing this. It was mailed Sept 72.

I got it wrong.. I used an online time converter and missed the date flipping backward. Here is what I screwed up,, The date/time on the raw weather report is the 25th, 0300, 0400 and 0500.. It is UTC which goes backward to the 24th for PST.. I checked only the time conversion. So, the report on the 25th UTC was the 24th local time. I thought it was the 25th. Sorry about that. The basic argument about the wind estimate is still valid.

Here is the weather balloon data.. For Salem Nov 24/71 at 5PM. windspeed at 58 knots The direction was more Southerly and the speed higher than believed for Cooper's jump. But, it was recorded 3 hours before and 70 miles from Cooper's jump,, how relevant is it??

I am in preliminary discussions for a major project.. not a book They asked me NOT to discuss the case publicly.. usually these things don't pan out.. The wind error is minor compared to what I have.... so I am not that concerned about it. I just thought it would be a great teaser for CooperCon rather than here,, but I am not presenting anything. That error is unbelievable...

Exactly what I expected,, condescending and ignoring the facts.. THERE IS NO WINDS ALOFT DATA FOR COOPERS"S LZ.. DO YOU UNDERSTAND.... the only data is Salem at 5PM. Not only do you ignore the facts you make claims that are inconsistent and untrue... The Salem winds aloft at 5PM shows 58 knots at 9800 ft.. 58 is greater than 35... The other pilot that night claimed 60 knots at 13000 ft which is consistent and lends credibility to his other claim that the winds were shifting between 160 and 200 degrees. So, you make contradictory claims about data that you claim is somehow valid for Cooper's LZ.. to be polite, your logic is inconsistent with reality. You have been asked to produce the winds aloft data for Cooper's LZ and have never done it because it doesn't exist. Now, STOP wasting my time. There is nothing more I can or wish to do to help you.

We have the data.. it does not actually say what you claim.. The closest weather balloon's went up at Quillayute, 100 miles West of Seattle and about 170 miles from Cooper's jump, so irrelevant. And, at Salem Or... at 5PM, about 70 miles from Cooper's jump, that data showed wind about 212 deg varying slightly with elevation. But, it isn't close in place and time to the jump zone... not very useful. The winds aloft data posted in the FBI files for Portland and Salem were a forecast estimated from the balloon data at Salem at 5PM.. they used an average as a proxy for the wind Cooper encountered.. but there was an error. The winds aloft data from the balloon's tells us a few general things,, The wind direction at surface was close to direction throughout elevation. The wind at Salem at 5PM was more Southerly than believed. The wind naturally increases speed at elevation over surface but the winds were much higher at elevation than the FBI used.. It also showed 50 knots at 10,000 feet for Salem at 5PM. It shows 66 knots at 13500 ft.. So, the other pilot claiming 60 knots headwind at 13000 ft on the night of the hijacking may have been correct. He also said the wind was shifting between approximately 160 and 200 degrees. That actually fits the data we have. The best info we have is that the wind was shifting that evening between S-SE and SSW... Seattle was S, Toledo ground was S-SE.. I can only say that the wind was NOT conclusive in the LZ and the FBI ruled out a S-SE wind direction. We do NOT have actual data for Cooper's jump time and place.. the FBI estimated a W-SW wind. I have made this same argument for years but recently found an error that makes it bullet proof. I feel I am wasting my time again with this post, you will just never accept the facts and make claims about the wind data that don't exist. BTW, when everyone finds out the error, you won't believe it.. the fact that nobody caught it undermines the credibility of the entire investigation.

R99, the disrespect you show in this screed is why I stopped posting all my research.. for a long time I posted everything I found but still disrespected. And now, I have also been asked not to discuss the case publicly.. I have shared the wind error with a few people privately and IMO it should be presented at CooperCon. Chaucer and I have repeatedly asked you for the wind data you claim proves the wind characteristics along in the jump zone, you have refused, belittled and obfuscated.. We aren't asking you because we don't have the data, we are asking you because we do have it and it doesn't prove what you keep claiming. So, your disrespectful post (and posts by a few others) doesn't encourage me to share more of my undisclosed research and I have lots... it reinforces my decision to share less.

I have been asked not to talk publicly or disclose my research that is not public... so there are limitations on what I can say, it makes things difficult. but if somebody else wants to they can bring it up.. IMO, it is a big deal and should be,

It should be saved for CooperCon.. I have told a couple people privately, I just don't think it should be made public yet. It is a big deal. Your argument about the wind is correct, I have been making the same one for years. The error I found recently takes it over the top...

Yes, they used an estimated SW wind direction drift, to the NE, I used a S-SE wind with a N-NW drift.. based on an error I found..

I am just applying Soderlind's analysis with the wind corrected to be S-SE... That means if Cooper pulled he would have landed under or slightly West of the flightpath depending on the variation in the heading of the plane at the time of the jump, not East. Very little of that area had a ground search. I still believe he jumped between roughly the Lewis and about Brush Prairie..

You are dodging... The closest was Salem, 70 miles away at 5PM.. wind was SSW,, how is that representative of the area Cooper likely jumped at about 8:12. It isn't.

I have the files and I am not the one that needs to read them, you keep making false claims about the data. It doesn't tell us the wind at the time and place of the "jump" not even close.

R99, You constantly refer to the wind data from Tom Kaye as evidence but it doesn't indicate what you think it does.. It was measured nowhere near the LZ and at the wrong times.. the only thing it tells us is that generally wind direction was consistent throughout altitudes. There is no useful data for wind direction anywhere close to the time and place of Cooper's probable jump in those files. If you can find specific relevant data in those files then post it.

Looks like Chaucer is just making the same argument I have made for years,, that the wind was shifting closest to the DZ/time.. and the wind data for the LZ time/place was unreliable. but that isn't new. What I have is new and everyone missed it for over 50 years... Not unprecedented, they missed the packing card for Cooper's back chute as well.

Of course you didn't read all my posts... To repeat. I found a simple error, it wasn't by Soderlind or the FBI.. they got bad data. The error is irrefutable.. it is not my opinion, speculation or conjecture, it is a fact.

Looks like Chaucer has been looking at the wind as well.. The argument he just posted on thecooperforum is the same one I have been making for years,,, completely ignored by the illuminati. points.. Tom Kaye's weather data is far from the LZ and the wrong time/date.. there is no data close at 8PM on the 24th. It does show wind direction was consistent throughout elevations. Weather Underground data for the 24th shows nearby winds shifting from the S-SE.. The data used for the LZ was an estimate of an average over an hour from Salem and Portland.. not very reliable for the LZ.. Portland is on an E/W River which affects winds differently. Winds tend to blow up or down a River not across. Salem is too far away and Portland is a unique location. But, I found something new, a simple error, Chaucer claims he has more info but reading his post I don't think it is the same thing I found though we appear to have the same conclusion.. Essentially, the wind data was wrong and the best/closest data we have is that it was from the S-SE around 8PM on the 24th in the zone. That puts the plane into a headwind and Cooper's potential drift under and slightly West of the flightpath (not East) depending on the heading at a given location, virtually no ground search on the West side.. they did do door to door canvassing. I am still examining this but it appears that if Cooper pulled he landed within a few miles on the West side of the flightpath. Legal disclaimers and fine print.. I believe the common flightpath map is accurate to 1 mile, later map revised to 0.5 mile.. that Cooper jumped between about the Lewis R to roughly just south of Battleground (Brush Prairie). The time stamps are accurate to within a minute. Rataczak was hand flying the plane, he said so. The FBI files are wrong on the autopilot. Rataczak said he felt Cooper on the stairs. Experts claim that wouldn't happen on autopilot. Rataczak called Soderlind in the suburbs of Portland which was many minutes after the "jump". Soderlind was listening and taking notes. Rataczak believes Cooper jumped nearer to the Lewis R. Rataczak was asked about Cooper jumping near Portland,, he said he was gone by then. The rapid increase in oscillations were visual on the gauge, the bump was an extreme oscillation. Needle begins oscillating rapidly and hits an extreme that is felt as a bump. This happened within seconds not minutes. No animals were harmed by this post. I am not responsible for any persons real or imagined that may get offended by this post.

The new search was a very small area, not comprehensive enough.

No, they did some early in '73 then decided no more..