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The CRAFT map thing came up a wile back.. CRAFT acronym

Hadn't caught this before,, Cooper demanded the crew members REMAIN seated when Tina got the items.... They were seated when Cooper got the money and the chutes.. where were the other stews, Alice and Flo at that point.

The C-130 has rear ramp/door controls in the cockpit.... That is is the most likely source for Cooper's "experience"... and error applying it to the 727.

It gets confusing because the DC3/C47 uses fractions of full flaps.. not degrees,, some planes used percentage of full,, those may = 15 degrees but not be marked on the controls. The 15 degree flaps is a general setting for takeoff.. I recall some prior discussion as to whether Cooper actually used the number 15,, I think it was Larry Carr,, Cooper initially demanded only flaps down,, then the crew had to go back to him to confirm and the number 15 came up, I think Larry thought it may have come from the crew or Cooper was influenced by the crew. IMO, flaps 15 is a well known standard takeoff setting and doesn't imply only a 727. But Cooper definitely had some general aviation knowledge, not necessarily the 727 specifically. The fact that he didn't understand the airstair operation confirms that.

15 degree flaps is a generic take off setting.. it might have nothing to with a specific model. Some planes use different increments like percentage or 1/4, 1/2 of full... that may equal 15 degrees,, Found this about the DC-3 (C-47).. Douglas Service Bulletin DC-3 No. 261 contains information relative to the identifying characteristics of the above listed axle assemblies. (c) A flap setting of 15 degrees is required to meet the take-off and climb requirements at weights in excess of 25,200 lbs. at sea level except for those aircraft operated in accordance with a FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual or those aircraft eligible for operation in accordance with the take-off limitations of FAR 121, in which case a retracted flap position may be used for take-off.

Yes, 737 has 15 degree flaps, not sure if all variants. and most DC-9 variants did as well, not all. DC9-10 Flaps 0 - not used for takeoff or landing Flaps 10 - takeoff setting Flaps 20 - takeoff setting Flaps 30 - approach and landing setting used for abnormal situation such as engine out approach and landing Flaps 40 - normal setting for landing, i.e., company standard Flaps 50 - not used, see below * DC9-30/40/50 Flaps 0 - could be used for takeoff only in "Flaps 0, Slats extend" configuration Flaps 5 - takeoff setting Flaps 15 - takeoff setting Flaps 25 - approach and landing setting used for abnormal condition such as engine out situation Flaps 40 - normal setting for landing, i.e., company standard Flaps 50 - not used, see below * DC-9/30 flaps 15..

Here is what I believe those codes in the letter are for,, Each of the four newspapers was send a copy of the typed letter with a unique code.. That code was only known by the sender and could be used by the sender to confirm that they were the author.. only the sender knew the codes. Those codes were meant for further communications.. It could have been a predicate to sell information.. but there was no followup. Those codes were something known to the sender and unique receiver. Figuring out those codes may identify the sender.

Tina was in Eugene later.

Two controls in the rear one inside and one outside,, like the 727

What contents, there are no contents in that letter that indicate it is fake,, it is possible.. but there are several things in there that indicate it could be legit. Of course there are dozens or more fake Cooper letters but there are three that I have been investigating that are unique,, you have done zero investigation into the letters and just assume they are all fake based on a generality.. This is something I found with many people in this case,, binary assumptions based on opinion or bias.. people take hard positions based on nothing. Once you have taken that position critical thinking ends. Fact is, we don't know if the letter is fake or not. You can have that opinion but you have no evidence. You have to be skeptical of everything and that includes your own assumptions.

That is possible but the number I potentially matched indicates he did not live in the PNW.

Correction, According to Flo, she was ordered by Rataczak to remove her shoes as that was the procedure for emergencies.. I couldn't confirm if any of the stews did or not.. Tina said she didn't get a good look at Cooper's face, claimed he looked forward and was hunched over, yet she had input on the sketches,,, the FBI followed her after the hijacking. I don't think she had anything to do with it but she may be compromised as a witness. Something is just off with her. I don't know about the tie, it was a Pennys Towncraft clipon, they are one size but are they adjustable? EDIT.. Cooper's actual tie is about 22.5" top to tip.. don't know if that helps any.. Tie's are measured to the top of the taper at the bottom so 2.5" less than the bottom tip = 20" tie length. 20" for a clipon is considered long... but we don't even know if Cooper wore the tie before the hijacking.

Black and white images do not show complexion well.. Mucklow's passport says 5' 8".. Al Lee said Tina was 5' 6".. he was standing next to her. Was she shorter or was it a bad guess, either way it tells you height claims are imprecise. but Flo said that they were ordered to remove their shoes, emergency procedure. I brought this up before but couldn't find anything on whether Tina had her shoes on or not.. Tina had Cooper 5'10"-6',, the FBI probably updated to her estimate because the other estimates were when Cooper was seated though Tina would have seen Cooper standing only briefly. It is irrelevant as the FBI admitted they included suspects 5'8" as a threshold.

That is the problem.. If you start with the letters are fake,, how do you become convinced, you have already staked a position with no evidence. From there, you would never research those letters to gain any info if you already have the position that they are fake. You now require an outside influence to convince you. R99 said they are fake because the writer was boasting but claimed he wasn't a boasting man in the letter.. So, the letters are fake because a writer is being a little dishonest.. that makes no sense. If the letter is fake the guy is being dishonest and if it was from Cooper he is a criminal and dishonest.. there should be no assumption that the content is true or honest. My strategy for this case is to start as skeptical but open.. or neutral. The evidence or argument moves the needle one way the other. There are actually many many letters beyond the publicized ones. Most can be dismissed for gross errors or content, but I have found three that are very unique.. and have been analyzing. I can't conclude they are fake or real. For that letter I matched the number but it was mailed from the area on Dec 11th.. have to reconcile that. Another letter was heavily redacted, I got it unredacted and it is amazing.. You don't have the unredacted version and never would if you start out with the position they are all fake. But, you also said Cooper isn't that type of person to send letters, how do you conclude that. I realize it is an opinion but I don't see how you possibly get there.

Skepticism is healthy, but that isn't an argument. You personally think all are fake,, why? You have no evidence. To say Cooper doesn't strike you as... how can you possibly conclude that. I accept it as your opinion,, but ask yourself,, why do you conclude that. What knowledge or experience causes that belief.. I think there are three letters that have unique characteristics which may be potentially legit.. You can be skeptical and open minded..

Fair enough,, your post was a non sequitur replying to my post about the letter possibly being legit.. You also liked R99's statement claiming it was a fake... which was nonsense logic. I only matched that number... none of that other stuff. If that number is not a random coincidence it is a big big deal...

That was complete nonsense.. and not about the WAPO number which I claimed. What does that have to do with me. I found a match for the complete WAPO number, they didn't. Might be a random coincidence but the chances have to be 1 in a over a million.. garbage.. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Media-Release-With-Errors.pdf

So, it is a fake because it is dishonest.. How do you know it is not from Cooper? What is your evidence? I thought it was very unlikely Cooper until I matched the code in it. I have been working on that code for years,, Now, maybe it is legit..

No, why do you say that.. is that modern Lawyer humour? I matched the number.

Based on the TBAR money, we know at least some cash got separated from Cooper after he received it.. that could have been during the jump.. before or after. But, I have always wondered what I would do if I had lost all the money in the jump.. probably assess the situation with the authorities and search if the risk/reward was favourable. The reason I brought this up now is because of this letter.. it was mailed Dec 11th from a 980 zip code.. Those codes are to confirm and identify the sender at a later date.. only the sender would have the codes. There was no follow up communication. I have either deciphered the 717171684* code... or it is a random coincidence. Probably 1 in a million+ coincidence but possible. But, what I have trouble understanding is why Cooper would still be in the area a few weeks later.. that makes me think the letter was a hoax. I would have gotten out of there ASAP... Hanging around a few weeks doesn't seem to fit unless Cooper was looking for the money or holed up injured..

McNally's money in a mail bag.. I think this is recovered afterward,, not before.

What do people think? If Cooper survived but lost the money in the jump would he stay in the area and look for it?

I agree, those bottom two indentations are extreme, not a regular format.

"Hal Williams," fits https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/11/25/All-in-black-during-the-day-of-polyesters-and-plaids/3918375512400/

Flo was the outlier, most others were about 5'10"... the average male height in 1970.. Cooper wasn't "the hijacker" until after he sat down.. would she have accurate recall before he was "the hijacker". Studies show that witnesses tend to recall an average height... unless a subject was noticeably short or tall they cite the average based on other physical characteristics.. The circumstances were different, though the height range is still close. For Cooper, only the crew knew he was a hijacker and he was seated most of the time. For Hahneman, everyone knew he was a hijacker and he was forced to walk out of the plane to another plane with the crew. For Hahneman there would be a bias to being more accurate..