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Everything posted by FLYJACK
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Ok, complete garbage.. grasshoppers? seriously. You are using an exaggeration and fabrication to dismiss evidence you don't like... A LIE. This is an example of why you have zero cred in the Cooper case, IMO. The bill you have is very uniform, not all bills are as uniform. Other bills have very different characteristics. First, you can't really compare 1980 bills to the earlier series. Try it with the same series to be accurate. You claim the outside 75% was eaten by organisms. Nonsense. The outside deteriorated due to the wet dry cycling and abrasives. Some bills have matching bore holes going through the packet, not from the edges. Those holes are consistent with termites, your mockery and red herring BS is ignorant or intellectually corrupt. What it does point out is that the notion that the rubber bands were "intact" is ridiculous. It is more likely there were brittle rubber band frags stuck to the top/bottom bills, Tosaw claimed only the two full packets had rubber bands the one missing some bills didn't. ?? The evidence suggests there were several factors causing deterioration.. wet/dry cycles, abrasion, bacteria and possibly insects.. The real problem with your naive "educated analysis" is that you conclude the money had to be buried by human intervention. There is no evidence from that bill or any bill that supports this.
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Found something interesting.. A 727 pilot Ziad Afra had an incident taking off in Rome.. The rear airstairs weren't locked up and there was no light in the cockpit to indicate.. the stairs fell down and dragged on take off. He continued and took off with sparks flying. They pulled the door up and locked in flight and it had melted away half an inch of the airstair. This occurred sometime after 1970, but I can't find the date or any record. There is no date or airline mentioned.. trying to determine if it was pre or post Norjak. Ziad Afra was a pilot from 1960-1990.
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The order of events is crucial... His initial demand was rear stairs opened in flight,, that was with no stops in the US. When they agreed to land in Reno, Cooper's plan changed and he jumped earlier. He didn't want to be on the plane when it landed in Reno. When he readily accepted landing in Reno for fuel he had decided to jump earlier than planned. He then wanted the stairs down early.
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He initially demanded flaps down,, Tosaw claims, they were trying to calculate the range and needed the exact flap setting, they went back to Cooper and asked, he then said 15 degrees. Cooper was prompted for it (according to Tosaw) and that is significant. I can't confirm this but have no reason to doubt it. If this is the case we don't really know if he meant 15 degrees all the way or not.
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Everyone, including myself assumed Cooper wanted to jump ASAP.. this was supported by the idea that Cooper initially demanded rear stairs down on takeoff, makes sense. The transcripts clearly indicate he initially wanted them lowered in flight by the stew then the crew started negotiating with him. The pilots had a plan to escape. Cooper later decided he wanted the rear stairs down on take off, then partial, presumably to allow Tina off the plane. He then decided again to have them lowered in flight. The airstairs down on take-off idea came from the negotiation with the crew, it was not his initial or final demand. The point is contradicted in some 302's, but they are less reliable than transcripts. FBI 302's are notorious for inaccuracies, by the nature of their production. I found an FBI document that 100% supports the transcript.. which means that Cooper did NOT initially demand rear stairs down on take-off and therefore there is no evidence he wanted to jump ASAP or outside Seattle. Note. he also demanded no landing in the US "for fuel or anything". Why make an unachievable demand that would be rejected? Note. the plane was at flaps 30 not 15. I think Cooper said flaps down, then when prompted for a number said 15 degrees. (per Tosaw). This communication vagueness may be where the range got messed up for Cooper. He may have intended 15 degrees for his jump, not the entire flight. Note. Reno was suggested to him.
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Eric has a knack for self promotion... "Eric began investigating the DB Cooper mystery about 10 years ago with the goal of gaining a better understanding of the facts in the case and bringing some clarity to the legend. Initially, he did not think he would actually identify a suspect." Sheridan Peterson was Sailshaw's suspect, he pushed the FBI .. Eric has done nothing. https://themountainnewswa.net/2018/01/27/db-cooper-world-loses-a-sleuth-remembering-bob-sailshaw/
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Eric Ulis is the Cooper Con… The FBI did not confirm the placard came from Norjak. In fact, they raised doubts. Eric claims it as fact, it isn’t. Eric also claims the wind direction at the placard location as fact, it isn’t the FBI docs state it is an ESTIMATE based on Portland and Salem data over 50 miles away from the placard location. Eric has taken 2 assumptions, intentionally elevated them to fact to contradict real case evidence. Now, when Eric is confronted with the F106 FBI docs confirming the FBI flight path he changes his theory.. He now claims the western flightpath maybe had a veer East then a right turn.. this is goal seeking and desperate BS.. Eric’s changes his theory to match his conclusion and agenda. Any TV “enterprise” that wants to know the facts should contact real Cooper experts and avoid Eric’s docufantasy which is stolen work of others patched together with weak speculation. He has nothing new. He is the Cooper Con. Eric is good example for why I don’t publicly expose most of the suspect info I have. Guys like this will steal your work to try and profit from it. It makes public suspect discussions impossible and undermines case advancement.
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This is a great example of a lack of critical thinking.. Cooper demanded to fly "nonstop" aka no stopping in the US, fuel anywhere in Mexico... Why would Cooper say "nonstop" if he knew the plane didn't have the range and the flight would be rejected and renegotiated. Why not just say Mexico? or pick some place far south. Why say no US stops at all if he wanted to jump outside Seattle? Simple, he believed it. Cooper wanted to go to Mexico and jump outside the US. other factors.. Cooper wasn't dressed for a PNW jump.. Cooper was Latin/Swarthy/Mexican in features and appearance. Cooper asked for money using "US" and "American", that suggests a foreign influence. Cooper's initial demand according to transcripts was rear stairs lowered in flight. Transcripts are far more reliable than 302's. The speculation that Cooper was so clever he made a (nonstop) demand he knew was unachievable, would be rejected and renegotiated as a ruse is utter nonsense.
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Flo said eyes were brown,, in this video she remembers the colour of his eyes.. and the first composite does not look like Cooper. 17:30 Cooper's eyes were brown and that virtually eliminates blue eyed Sheridan..
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I agree about the suction dredge, extremely unlikely for the money to end up as it did going through a suctions dredge. There was a massive clamshell dredge/barge operation right across on Sauvie Island in 76/77, that is a possibility. I did research on river flow and shape.. TBAR was known as an area for junk to wash up.. The steep drop off close to shore actually creates a higher current and can throw stuff up from the bottom. During a high flow period the location of TBAR relative to the Columbia's right turn and steep drop would create a condition which would throw debris up from the bottom onto the shore. Also, regarding human intervention, if it were why does that mean it was Cooper and he buried it?? Money buried dry, this isn't necessarily true.. the money's edges will fan out when thrown in the water but it will compress and stick together over time when fully saturated. The fanning effect is temporary. Water damaged packets of money will eventually stick together in a brick..
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If you look at FBI file #36, the six dashes aren't redactions or deletions. Those dashes are just separators to group communications/conversations.
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I didn't notice the parachute until I checked a high res version, it is on the FBI flight path map..
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yeah, it is an estimate, the point is Scholl's is about 8 miles past Heisson, that is outside the defined jump area in the same doc,, unless 8 miles is considered within "close proximity"??
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I don't think they are referring to Scholl's, if you read the entire doc they note the bump/osc at 8:10 and the area between Amboy and Heisson as the jump zone... that puts Scholl's too far South and suggests they are referring to an airport near the point the plane veered East (changed course).
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Self proclaimed experts still fail to understand simple concepts... The wind data posted above is used for an estimate, a proxy for Woodland based on Salem and Portland data and averaged over an hour... not very accurate for the LZ. I can read the direction.. the issue is Salem and Portland are far from the assumed LZ and averaged over an hour period 8-9PM. That is just not precise enough to claim the wind as a FACT as Eric does. The wind is an ESTIMATE just as the FBI stated. There is no data available for the exact time and location jumped. That is the point. The data shows a ESE, SSE, S to SSW shift from 7 thru 9 PM.. That means the wind at the LZ may have been SSE to S nearer to 8PM. The ground data shows this wind shifting. The proxy wind data from a significant distance and averaged over an hour is just not accurate enough to validate Eric's and Robert's claim. The F 106 pilots never indicated where Cooper jumped, the person writing the 302 indicated that the veer East is about where they thought Cooper my have jumped based on an 8:10 bump/osc. The veer East then turn right indicated by the F 106's destroy's the western flight path and corroborates the FBI path. The western flight path is dead. The FBI flight path is accurate and Cooper most likely jumped between 8:09 to 8:12 along that path.. The FBI originally used a SW wind then a SSW wind, shifting the search area. But looking at the vague method they used to ESTIMATE the winds near Woodland, it is clear that it is not at all precise to time and location. The winds at 8:09-13 could have been from SSE to SSW... that spins the potential LZ counterclockwise and Cooper may have drifted along or slightly W of the flight path. I don't know if they searched slightly W of the flight path, I assume they did.
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Probably from Google search.. Eric seeded the media with his Sheridan Peterson is Cooper false narrative.. people google search "Sheridan Peterson DB Cooper" the 5th result is.. Sheridan Peterson – The DB Cooper Hijacking https://thedbcooperhijacking.wordpress.com/tag/sheridan-peterson/ Posts about Sheridan Peterson written by Robert M. Blevins.
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Was there any "training" procedure for military aircrew regarding a pull in poor viz from 10k.
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Ridiculous,,, you trying to gain cred from media which you were the source of. You are 98% certain of SP because an FBI agent thought she may have talked to the real DB Cooper.. some are convinced it was McCoy. FBI agent comments/opinions aren't evidence. You have nothing, less than nothing. SP doesn't match the revised sketch or the descriptions, Cooper was latin in appearance and characteristics. In fact, later on the FBI actually eliminated people because they matched the first sketch which was inaccurate. Truth is, the argument for SP is an extremely weak circumstantial one, virtually non-existent. Eric has consciously or subconsciously just pursued a grand speculative goal seeking exercise.
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We need to put the wind in context.. the FBI ADMITTED that the winds were an ESTIMATE (Sorry Robert and Eric) using data from Salem and Portland and averaged between 8 PM and 9 PM. Salem and Portland are far from the LZ. The winds near the LZ and placard were not a fact and if you drill down into the data it appears it was likely off. The winds nearer 8 PM were Southerly. Tom Kaye looking at the data claimed the winds were consistent all the way down and more Southerly than estimate. However, like the FBI data his data set was still far from the LZ. "The two closest locations were Salem just south of Portland and Quillayute Bruce said was just west of Seattle. They launch twice a day at 5pm and 5am so that is the data we have. I had him pull a second random day Nov 11 for comparison and you can see that the winds then were actually east near the ground. Nov 24 looks pretty consistent all the way down but seems to be more southerly than we had estimated. Now you can do a proper analysis." Tom Kaye If you look at the data in the FBI files, the wind was clearly from the ESE to S.. and if Tom’s assertion that it was consistent all the way down then the FBI wind estimate was off and the wind was actually more in line with the flight path. That would mean Cooper drifted back essentially along the flight path. The SSE to S wind around 8 PM is supported by other historical data. The assumption made was using data Salem and Portland data and then averaging it over an hour.. The winds were shifting from ESE near 8 PM to SSW nearer 9 PM. Anybody claiming the wind at the LZ or placard is a fact is 100% wrong, even the FBI claimed it was an ESTIMATE. The FBI did revise the wind direction estimate to be more southerly spinning the LZ slightly. The search area moved slightly West.
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I don't see the money going through a suction dredge and ending up as it did. But, speculation has its place and is necessary to advance things like all cases, however, not all speculation is created equal. In this case, all speculation is attacked disparaged and ridiculed as bad thing, that is nonsense. Speculation should be judged as reasonable or unreasonable. The reason this case is so fascinating is because there are actually few 100% facts. An alternate flight path is unreasonable speculation as it is contradicted by many facts. The dredge is reasonable speculation, (I just don't think the money would go through and end up like it did).
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This matches and confirms the FBI flight path. Norjak veered East (about 8:12, jump estimate) and then turned right, this is incompatible with a western flightpath. FBI FILE #10 P419 __________ WAS INFORMED _________ PORTLAND AIRPORT, THAT TWO CHASE PLANES WHICH WERE FOLLOWING FIVE MILES BEHIND HIJACKED AIRCRAFT SUDDENLY VEERED TO THE EAST AND THEREAFTER MADE A RIGHT TURN. THE POINT OF THEIR CHANGE OF COURSE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IN TIME AND LOCATION TO THAT BELIEVED WHERE THE UNSUB DEPARTED THE AIRCRAFT.
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It looks like termite damage. I am looking into the few species of termites in the PNW.. there are two types,, dampwood termite and subterranean termite.
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Complete bunk… The FBI walked back the Cowlitz Sheriff claims to say they could NOT confirm the Placard was from Norjak. Evidence suggests it is unlikely. The wind was NOT a fact, according to FBI docs it was an estimate based from Portland and Salem averaged over an hour. Wind data closer to the area and jump zone have winds from the SSE to S. Robert Nicholson’s placard drift calculations are wrong. The flight path is backed up by the AF, F106 Pilots, Boeing, NWA and ATC…. The TBAR money being found on TBAR doesn’t mean Cooper landed nearby and buried it there, that is poor logic. Eric’s confirmation bias has ignored and distorted facts to push his extremely speculative theory. The premise for a western flightpath is about as weak as you can get.
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Found something interesting… The FBI files show that Cooper used two matchbooks.. One his and one supplied by Tina. Tosaw’s book distinguishes further. According to Tina the matchbook Cooper had said “Earn a High School Diploma” and Tina went to grab company matches from a cabinet.. Cooper recovered and took the first empty matchbook. Sky Chef supplied catering for flights.. That “suggests” the Sky Chef matches did not come from Cooper at all but were grabbed by Tina on the plane. I found these vintage matchbooks,, from ICS in Scranton PA. Also from Tosaw’s book.. Cooper had 2 drinks. Money in packets of $2000 strapped in PAPER BANDS and some had additional rubber bands, corroborates Tina, H and Bank letter to FBI.. Cooper offered 2 packets of money to stews, other than Tina. Cooper demanded flaps down but flight ops was calculating range and they went back and asked Cooper, he then said 15 degrees. Soderlind suggested SF or LA, and a second stop in Yuma.. and “Cooper was advised that it wasn’t necessary for the plane to stop anywhere in the US, but in any event he did not want to stop at either SF or LA because those cities were too big.” Reno was suggested by Soderlind and Cooper agreed.
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L55376548B was the bill on the top one of the of the packets the Ingrams had that Ralph Himmelsbach Id'd as matching the FBI list. This top bill is NOT blackened, if the FBI did use Silver Nitrate to fingerprint bills they would have fingerprinted this bill, the top one, they didn't. There was no record of SN being used and this bill would have been the primary target for fingerprinting.