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Coat, deep left front pocket,, she has her hand in there in one pic and a bulge in the other pic.. a money packet is 0.5" thick. I don't think that any of the crew was "involved" in the hijacking. I am just exploring a theory,,, that Tina didn't return the money to Cooper and kept it, she or somebody close to her discarded it into the Columbia R around 1978/79 when she resided several miles upstream of TBAR.. money washed up on TBAR. There would have been nothing wrong with taking the money from Cooper, it has happened in other hijackings.. but it was returned. Maybe, it just never came up.. Everyone just accepted Tina's story about returning the money, to me it sounds sketchy. Only two people know the truth, Cooper and Tina. Today, the FBI would never just accept that story.. back then they put Tina on a pedestal and used her testimony to guide the case, big mistake if she was compromised. BTW: I am super excited to have resolved a 45 year old mystery, not Cooper but another case I have been working on. The affected parties are trying to find an equitable resolution.. At some point it will probably make the news. This one is really cool...
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People do crazy things... never assume you know what somebody would do or not do, she did ask for some ransom money and handled it. Tina handled the only known money to be separated from the ransom,,, until TBAR. I am sure she has a good explanation for the bulge in her coat pocket that looks like packets of money.
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Nope, she is carrying a purse...
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Good idea,, Ask Tina what was in her coat left pocket?
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Plane tracked by AF...
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Apparently some passengers did figure out there was a hijacking...
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Cooper was right handed.. I tested this on lots of people,, walking to a (bathroom) door with a case and a hand inside holding something. 100% used their dominant hand to hold the object inside the case. The less dominant hand supports the case. If Shutter doesn't use his dominant hand to hold the bomb while walking to a lav he is mistaken or an oddball and just blew up the plane.. For control while walking you want your dominant hand securing the bomb as you move. When you stop you can use your dominant hand to open the door or do whatever.. The tie clip doesn't go on left or right handed,, the side is determined by the shirt. Men's shirts button on right, women's usually on left. Cooper's tie was clipped on from right. The other point I made before was that Cooper would have sat on the left side of the plane if he was left handed to have his dominant left hand in the case. He sat on the right with his right hand in the case, even if Cooper couldn't sit on the left immediately he could have sat anywhere he wanted to once the hijacking started. You don't pick the side to sit based on your right/left handedness. You pick a side based on using your dominant hand to hold a bomb trigger with the case placed on that side. IMO, the FBI knows if he was right or left handed but isn't disclosing it.
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Cooper was right handed,, he had his right hand in the case when he carried it to the lav. Dominant hand in the case while carrying.. Looks like this came from Tina.. THE ATTACHE CASE WHEN HE WAS MOVING TOWARDS THE LAVATORY. HE WAS CARRYING THE CASE ON ITS SIDE IN HIS LEFT HAND WITH HIS RIGHT HAND IN THE CASE." The context is the FBI page number 2859 Edit,, I just noticed in this doc Cooper wore ankle length shoes... that isn't loafers..
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Blowing up a plane was a common method for making a political statement.. that is terrorism. Hijacking for ransom using the threat of a bomb is altogether different. Cooper was not making a political statement. He was after the cash.. Cooper's use of a (dead man switch) bomb was tactical to thwart potential sky marshal's or being shot by a sniper.
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I think that came from Jo Weber,,, aka completely unreliable.
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Of course Georger has it wrong,, big surprise,,, Hijacker's shifted to using bombs to thwart the increasing deployment of sky marshals. Bombs were not necessarily political but a tactical progression. A bomb with a deadman switch neutralized any potential sky marshal.. Cooper wasn't making a political statement, he just wanted $200,000... Cooper saw an opportunity he thought he could pull off and went for it. .
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Raleigh's were mid level, not premium. They were marketed and bought for the coupon program. Cooper's were filtered 85mm. BTW, 8 cigs were found, 7 Id'd as Raleigh and one assumed.. Were any the one Tina smoked?? The context of my research has been Hahneman.. He demanded 2000 Benson and Hedges, a premium brand.. but he had a pack of Viceroy's filtered 85mm on him.. Viceroy's were equivalent to Raleigh's, the difference was the marketing. Prior to 1970, Viceroy smokers were mostly women,, in 1970 Viceroy changed its marketing and sponsoship toward men.
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Darren's podcast's are stellar.. It is always beneficial to listen to views especially ones you don't agree with.. The most important thing is not what other's conclude but why and how they reached that conclusion. It makes one a better thinker.. Many conclusions are the result of flawed reasoning and logic..
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There is one caveat.. The chute description of all white came from Cossey.. Cossey may been wrong if the chutes were mixed up.. The orange and white chute found in the river next to the rail tracks a mile from Heisson store might have been Cooper's. (if Cossey was wrong) The FBI dismissed it for being the wrong colour..
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BOOM... I figured this out long ago,,, Hahneman wore dark sunglasses for his hijacking. One of the stews thought Cooper may have had prescription lenses...
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You guys are blind, there is a subtle left part in this pic.. A heavier Hahneman from his passport photo.. Clear part on the left. There are also pics of hair slicked back flat.. even short and forward. I have about a dozen pics of Hahneman and he looks like 4 different people,, his weight fluctuated greatly and his hair style changed.. his face changed from fat to thin back to fat.. he was diagnosed with cancer in 1971. FBI suspect sketches..
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The description was slipons, no laces, but they might not have been, some have really high laces and look like slipons, there was also a low ankle boot with no laces. Those soles were called commando soles... they began in the 1940's. Many different shoes had them or copied them.. I had a pair of Doc Martins in the 1980's that had the commando soles but looked like dress shoes.. There were many like this.. a low ankle boot, no laces and commando sole. Would look like a slipon... If Cooper was jumping an ankle boot similar to this makes the most sense. IMO. I found vintage loafers with commando sole..
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and cigarettes... There were shoes available at the time that looked like loafers but had corrugated (military style) commando soles. The circumstantial elements fit well. It was 1 mile from a found chute in river next to railway, store was right on the rail tracks and within the potential LZ...
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There are still better pics of the part out there but the first is a right side pic, the last has a subtle part on the left..
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What do think of those shoes I posted earlier? Vintage brown loafer like with corrugated (military style) commando soles..
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Somebody did try to take a secret pic of Hahneman during his hijacking, it didn't turn out.
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I know what you mean, suspect descriptions aren't definitive or conclusive on their own. They are part of the picture though. You need to take everything in. Some funny things.. Hahenman had a scar on his hand,, the witnesses claimed he had no scars. The pilot positively ID the wrong guy from photos. The hotel staff rejected a pic of Hahneman as George Ames, it was him.
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First off, I have never said anything about a Hotel lobby. Maybe others have.. The name "George Ames", Hahneman's alias was tracked to the Hotel, not Hahneman. Interesting point, Hahneman's pic was later shown to Hotel staff and they said it was definitely not him... it turned out it was. Witnesses aren't entirely reliable. Hahneman was identified by a tipster for a reward, rumour is it was a relative, maybe a cousin but I haven't confirmed that 100%.. FBI is really trying to hide that.
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That is just not true, I have the facts correct. I have an FBI document, newspaper reports aren't always accurate. FBI - "Approximately 1:15 P.M., plane left Dulles with crew members, which included three male and four female' members and other items demanded by hijacker. Hijacker, shortly after the plane became airborne, expressed dis- satisfaction and requested plane to return to the vicinity of Dulles Airport. Plane circled vicinity of Dulles Airport until his demand for one hundred $1000 bills, two hundred $500 and five eighty-five $100 bills was met. Shortly after 7:30 P.M., the plane again landed at Dulles Airport at which time the new ransom money was placed onboard and a stewardess and flight engineer were replaced with new crew members." Can you understand my frustration discussing Hahneman with people who have no idea what the facts are.. I have thousands of pieces of information on Hahneman. You have reached bogus conclusions on incomplete, mis-information and assumptions... I am not interested in going through all my info and sorting it out all out for you. The fact that nobody was found who saw or remembered Cooper before the hijacking is irrelevant..
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There is a subtle left part in the earlier Hahneman pic. YOU ARE BLIND. Other pics show a more pronounced part. I don't have to prove squat to you.. you are irrelevant to me. A nothing. If I posted those pics you'd just make up some other irrational nonsense to reject Hahneman.. Frankly, you have a bad attitude and use poor logic. Otherwise I would have posted more. The one thing I don't respect or have time for is poor reasoning and bad logic. Your logic, if I don't show what I have you can use that reject to Hahneman,, that is great.. idiotic logic, but go for it. I am not in this to play these childish games. Fact is, Hahneman's hair matches the description of Cooper's, if you don't think so that is your problem, not mine. I don't owe you anything. Do your own homework,, .