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The stairs are hydraulic lift, gravity drop.. they need to extend fully to lock down. When Cooper pulled the lever to open them the air resistance kept them up, slightly open. The pilot slowed the plane down to about 170 knots and Cooper made his way down, his weight pushing the airstairs open but they never locked fully down. When he jumped the loss of weight and air resistance pushed the airstairs back up.. There is no evidence Cooper pulled the emergency handle, that is speculation to try to explain the placard... WE don't know if that plane had the emergency system, if Cooper used it or if the placard even came from that plane. Tina showed Cooper how to open the airstairs,, Hahneman did not get airstair instructions, the speed was just 125 knots jumping at 9,000 feet. Hahneman walked backward down the stairs and went off back first.

I can't find the vid online.. too big to post. It was after Tom Kaye looked at the chute. If you PM me your email I can send a short clip.

Also, in the D B Cooper case closed is a RECORDAK box... This is probably the money... it was complicated because 30k of the 230k money from the original emergency bank stash was immediately made into another bank stash. The FBI couldn't sort out the list from the original Micro and asked for a list of the second bank stash. Tom said he couldn't find it.. The key is the original order of the bills.. FBI evidence.. Image of random Recorak box from net to confirm..

Cooper is right handed... (Sheridan Peterson is left handed) Looks like the FBI missed this redaction... .. "cigarette stains on right hand" another FBI doc...

More pics... Tom said he never saw a white "bag" Could it be some inner liner that perhaps was not sent to Tom?? or from the dummy chute?? It has an evidence tag attached to it.

Noticed something odd... There is a white cotton/canvas bag with the pink reserve parachute shown by the FBI during the History channel show.. "D B Cooper case closed" That white bag was NOT shown during Tom Kaye's examination.. https://citizensleuths.com/pink-parachute-gallery.html Is it part of the reserve chute? or something else? It looks attached. Didn't an FBI file state Cooper tried to wrap the money in white material.. It came out of the box with the reserve container and pink chute.. appears attached to the open reserve container??

May 1968 Randall L Plumb was signed up for the F 106 training program... Signed up for the F-106 Ground School only are Colonel Henry P. Rettinger, 322nd FIS, Kingsley Field, Ore.; and Majors Wilton R Chavis, 437th FIS, Oxnard AFB, Calif.; Richard G. Painter, 325th Fighter Wing, McChord AFB, Wash.; and Randall L. Plumb, 437th FIS, Oxnard AFB, Calif, also Captains Eugene W. Bricker, Carl J. Henderson, Russell M. Lanning, Charles A. Martindale md George A- Speck, all of the 437th FIS, Oxnard AFB, Calif. Maintenance Squadron, was presented a certificate of recognition designating the squadron's duty performance during the past calendar quarter. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/39145450/

I found... but was never able to confirm. Randall L. "Randy" Plumb Harve Wallace https://www.key.aero/forum/modern-military-aviation/25530-the-m-ay-0-4-quiz "#10 -- On Thanksgiving eve of 1971 two F-106A of the 318th FIS scrambled from McChord AFB. Why? Yes, "D.B.Cooper". Was he the only one ever jumping out of a commercial flight? Really have to ask the folks at the commercial forum about that. Btw it was Northwest Flight 305 from Portland to Seattle and the two F-106 pilots were Randy Plumb and Harve Wallace." Seems a bit fuzzy.. https://forum.f-106deltadart.com/thread/2508/106-video "On the D B Cooper (actual D Cooper, D B Cooper was found and it warn't him- the ticket was listed as D Cooper) F-106 chase, I don't know that the 318th chased them but the 84th did. During my time at Hamilton on the Block S protoproof (Apr-May 1972), I met and talked to one of the pilots, Russ Web(b?)er. He said they couldn't see much and didn't see the air stair come down. It was a dark and stormy nite. History channel (or whoever) made a documentry at some point but used F-102 vice sixes as the chase." Here... Maj Russell Weber was in the 84th in Oct 1971.. (doesn't look like he was one of the F106 318th chase pilots, or any chase pilot.. fractured leg and shoulder in Oct 71) "Hamilton Air Force Base officials said today. Maj. Russell Weber along with two other pilots from the 84th Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Hamilton were over the Mendocino County coast when he ejected from his plane at 12,000 feet. Weber was rescued from the water two hours later. He was reported in good condition today at Letterman General Hospital in San Francisco with a fractured right leg and shoulder, and facial cuts." https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/74399221/

Hmmmm,,,

This sums it up,,, even if the FBI had Cooper they couldn't make a case without his cooperation. Limited physical evidence and weak eyewitness identification... From the FBI files.. "During a conference in San Francisco in April, 1976, several West Coast pivision case agents and the Bureau supervisor at that time reviewed captioned investigation. A memorandum from that conference reported that there were no quality suspects at the time and only limited physical evidence. Eyewitness identification was considered weak at that time. Nearly 10 years have passed since that conference. The conference came to the conclusion that "if COOPER was to surrender to authorities now or in the near future, it would be extremely difficult to make the case if he was uncooperative.”"

Cooper was universally described as Latin/Mexican/Native Indian (blood)... Both in appearance and features,, If your suspect doesn't appear "Latin" and "swarthy", he isn't Cooper. That alone eliminates nearly all of the higher profile suspects.

Robert, you made claims that are false.. you made claims that have no evidence, you made claims contrary to what I have already posted. These are beyond opinion. KC is named in the FBI files, the most recent one. #51.. I already mentioned that here you missed it I guess. In the mid 90's. I have the name of the US official... I don't give all the details because I have far too much information to post on a forum. I was making a broad point. Hahneman was not a copycat, he was labelled one and that false label enabled people to dismiss him as a Cooper suspect for almost 50 years. You have promoted a fallacy, an assumption, that if the FBI looked at Hahneman or any suspect and since he wasn't charged then he wasn't Cooper... there can be many reasons a person isn't ultimately charged. That is where I started,,, asking the question, was Hahneman ever eliminated and if so why. I can't find any reason for Hahneman to be eliminated, from the FBI or my own research. KC named in the FBI files 1996.. there are more pages in there. Hahneman is in the Cooper docs but redacted... So, by your (false) logic KC was known to the FBI but not charged so he wasn't Cooper.. right. Somebody in 1996 pushed the KC was Cooper narrative.. was that one of your sources, recognize the hand writing, from Morris MN (1996), did they disclose this to you.

Robert, you just have so many inaccurate assumptions.. stop making up stuff. Cooper's comments don't indicate he was FROM PNW. He was familiar. Hahneman was military and flew frequently to SE Asia. I have a record of him flying NWA into Seattle. You don't need to be from Seattle to know McChord.. Most military aircrew would know McChord.. White guy,, I explained this before,, you ignore it. Latin people were referred to as white back then, the terms "latino/hispanic" were widely adopted later. Hahneman described himself as white, dark skin. The witnesses described Cooper as "Latin/Mexican/Native American (Blood) in appearance and features. The FBI docs are riddled with those descriptions, it is irrefutable. Hahneman chose a plane to hijack in the NE because it was short, less likely to have Sky Marshall's and less crowded. He went to Mexico, had the plane fly a loop over Honduras, jumped and the plane landed back in Mexico. That was far too. According to a US official Hahneman had planned his hijacking for a year.. pre-dating Cooper. He was no "copycat". Hahneman moved to the US when he was 12.. became a naturalized US citizen and was 49 during NORJAK. I never claimed he wasn't investigated for NORJAK, you just made that up. I know he was but I also know the FBI claimed he returned from his job in the Far East in Jan 72,, but that is completely false. I don't know if they are lying or incompetent. I don't know that they eliminated him but if it was based on that, they were wrong. I do have FOIA docs on Hahneman and lots of information. Hahneman was not talking and he had people in very high places intervening. The FBI has redacted Hahneman from the Cooper files even though he died long ago, they didn't redact KC, Rackstraw, McCoy and many others.. Why, if he died and was eliminated, why redact. But the most interesting thing about Hahneman is that he fits Cooper better than any suspect yet there is nothing about him from the FBI. There is a ton on other high profile eliminated suspects but not Hahneman... nothing.

There is a MEX theory, mine... and the FBI considered a Mexican connection. There is no evidence for a ruse that is just conjecture. Cooper was Latin/Mexican.. the elephant in the room everybody conveniently ignores.. He demanded NO US stops for a reason.., he didn't want to be on the plane when it landed. Being on the plane for a landing with the money and no passengers is a big risk.

The only reason he demanded Mex nonstop in US was because he thought it was possible.. No way he makes a demand that he knows is impossible and would be 100% rejected by the pilots. If he just wanted the plane heading South he didn't have to demand nonstop in US.. he could have picked many southern US cities. The tell is that he changed his demand once landing in Reno was in play. He adapted and wanted out ASAP.. Tina claimed the hijacker put on the backpack after the passengers left but before the other stews left... Flo stated she heard Mexico, San Francisco and Phoenix discussed.. then the hijacker put on the backpack.. It is fuzzy but seems to indicate Cooper put on the back pack during the destination negotiations with the crew. Reno wasn't confirmed yet but a landing in the US was.

I just wanted to clarify that your statements were correct but not incompatible with my Mex theory. The false impression from the show was that you refuted it by stating Cooper's actions.

Your statement on the show was correct, the evidence you gave applied after the crew negotiation, Reno was in play and Cooper changed his demand. It is not incompatible with my argument... you didn't actually make an argument against it but your statement suggested to the host Cooper's actions negated my argument. It didn't. It is compatible. So, everyone listening is left with the impression you refuted my argument with the evidence you gave, it didn't. That is what I mean by mischaracterization.

Heard Marty Andrade's interview,,, https://www.spreaker.com/user/afterhoursam/after-hours-am-christopher-balzano-haunt RE: Cooper wanting to go to Mex... Marty disagreed with my theory that Cooper wanted to go to Mexico... but mischaracterized the argument. He correctly stated the desire to jump ASAP but all that occurred after the negotiations for Reno. My argument is that Cooper initially wanted to jump South of the US border but when Reno was in play he wanted to jump ASAP.. Cooper initially demanded to go to Mex and no landing in the US for any reason. Why would he make this demand if he knew it would be rejected? He wouldn't.. Cooper believed the plane could make it to Mexico to refuel. Mazatlan was mentioned in docs as a potential fuel stop. Cooper initially demanded that the airstairs be lowered in flight. He changed that during negotiations with the crew, it isn't clear who instigated it but the crew was trying to get Tina off the plane. Why change his demand? Cooper was not dressed for the PNW climate. Cooper asked for "US" and "American" currency. Cooper was described as Latin/Mexican appearance and features. When the Reno landing came into play, Cooper wanted out ASAP. Cooper gave no heading, his LZ was not planned. It was ad hoc. He did not jump where he had initially planned to. There is no evidence Mexico was a ruse. Everybody still thinks Cooper's initial demand was airstairs down on takeoff, this is 100% false. A game changer. Why change the demand once Reno was in play.. because he didn't want to be on the plane when it landed as that would be where the authorities would be set up. The circumstances changed and Cooper adapted. If Cooper jumped where he initially planned (or close) then why did he change his demand when Reno was in play... it doesn't make sense.

New FBI file up #51 https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-51-of-51/view Interesting one,, in mid 90's. Tipster's give Duane Weber (Jo's stories) and Kenneth Christiansen (?) also Robert Rackstraw mentioned.. all named in the files. The cigarette butts were considered for DNA but it was discovered they had been destroyed years earlier in Vegas, not lost.

Here, the FBI finds out from an AP reporter (Clossey) who spoke to Cossey on the 25th that the reserve chute was for demonstration only.. It was Cossey's dummy chute, he stated it had an X with red closing flaps. The X with red flaps falsely morphed into a red X first appearing on DZ. The FBI probably held back the markings on the dummy chute in the files to be able to identify it. The reporter got a hold of Cossey on the evening 25th before the FBI could after trying all day. Emerick grabbed old chutes he never expected back.. the missing dummy probably had an X (black) with red closing flaps.

There was no red X.. this reports an X with red closing flaps.. Still hard to believe Emerick didn't notice that it was a dummy chute. https://uspa.org/p/the-secrets-of-db-cooper-part-one-notorious-flight-305 "Belly-Mount Reserves Investigators also discovered that in his rush to grab the rigs, the skydiver in the loft accidentally grabbed the drop zone’s dummy reserve, marked with a large “X” and red closing flaps. The DZ used the dummy reserve for students to practice deploying the reserve by scooping the canopy out of the container and throwing it in the air and over their heads. Cossey explained, “For the dummy rig, I cut the reserve in half and sewed the panels together so that when the student threw it out, I could just fold it up and put it back in the container in half the time. That reserve was half the density of a regular reserve, and it was obvious to anyone with experience that it wasn’t a normal reserve.” Nonetheless, the regular reserve remained in the aircraft, and the dummy marked with an X was gone. Cossey personally thought Cooper removed the dummy reserve, stuffed the cash in its container and wore that on his chest as he jumped." Emerick's step daughter talks about the chutes, mentions the big X on one (no colour), Relevant part starts at 2:30 in video

Hahneman walked backwards down the 727 ventral stairs and went off back first at 9000 ft,, don't know when he pulled..

The tie plant theory is a common one that goes way back.. WE don't know if he discarded it intentionally, or accidentally.. I believe he used it to wipe prints in the plane but that is speculation.

Yes, Shutter you have missed the point, completely It only negates a premise used for an argument.. it doesn't make a positive argument for anything which you are assuming. You have always had trouble with logic. I am not making any argument other than the premise for Cooper "planting the tie" is busted. That is all... you have added the inverse and assumed an argument that isn't there.

Eric and Robert99 are still pushing these falsehoods... based on compounded assumptions represented as FACTS.. I have addressed these many times and they just get ignored... It is not a fact that the placard came from inside 305... unlikely but possible There is no evidence the other part found was from 305... The wind at the Placard find around 8 PM was S recorded at Toledo.. The winds aloft at the placard find from SW is NOT A FACT. There is no record. Even the winds the FBI used for the LZ was an estimate, even that was not a fact. The flightpath was not the F-106, they turned E too late and did loops. The western flightpath theory is conjecture, assumptions and rejection of known facts. There is really ZERO to support it. ZERO, it is just made up.