FLYJACK

The Cooper bill site is still up.. you can check bill#'s here.. http://www.check-six.com/lib/DBCooperLoot.htm I have all the 9998 Cooper bills in a spreadsheet with approx 70 of the TBAR bills #'s identified from various sources. The published FBI Cooper bill list was sorted alphanumerically... it would be nice to find the list in original order.. then we could ID the 3 TBAR packets and numbers.

(EU) Eric Ulis is a liar and a fraud... a slimy used car salesman. He actually stole my tie research which I had posted publicly for everyone and claimed it was his work. He then twisted it to fit his Sheridan Peterson narrative.. I left out one piece of info that dates the tie to 1964, not 63. When I challenged him, he called me a liar and troll for about a year now. He got caught and had to discredit me.. He claimed Sheridan had a numbered account in Singapore,, I discovered that Singapore Banks never enacted the legislation. Ulis just changed it to a Swiss account... that is backfilling a narrative. Not only is he dishonest but his alternate flight path - Sheridan Peterson narrative is garbage. There is no evidence for any of it beyond the fact that Sheridan was a top level jumper.

I agree, though we are theorizing TBAR, I can't imagine Cooper doing this. Money thrown into a river would be discarded to be never found.. Hahneman visited his estranged family in Pennsylvania for Xmas '71 then immediately booked it to Honduras to establish residency... He hadn't been a Honduran resident since he was a child but did weeks after Norjak.. I have been looking for Cooper bills in Central America, if they were circulated there nobody would have checked them.

I had perviously caught Georger lying about Tina evidence and he just ignored it when I challenged him on it. He'll do the same, talk big and run away when proven wrong. The money went to Cooper in packets of 100 bills, they were rubber banded into random sized bundles. The FBI claimed the TBAR money was in the same sequence so the Carr/Georger argument is completely busted.. it just makes no sense. How does a packet go to Cooper in a random count then get found in 100's. It doesn't. The 3 TBAR packets were NOT random counts. The bundles aka groups of packets were. The TBAR money was 3 packets part/all of a single rubber banded bundle. The location of the rubber band frags was never identified. They could have been from individual packets or the single bundle itself. The rubber band frags were NOT "intact" as described, they could have only been fragments on the top or bottom of packets. The 3 packets likely arrived on TBAR as one single rubber banded bundle (as Cooper got them) that separated slightly on TBAR as the rubber bands deteriorated.. https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/newss-scientists-hunt-for-d.b.-cooper/view at 1:53 “Brian Ingram, who discovered ransom money in 1980: We are out here making a campfire, my father and I, and that’s when we discovered the three packets of $20 bills, later to be proven as ransom money of D.B. Cooper." I have several theories but the best fit is the money was discarded upstream of TBAR within a few years of the discovery. The best speculation for that scenario is: Tina kept the money she was handed by Cooper and in the Spring of 1979 the money was tossed as a single rubber banded bundle into the river, likely into the Willamette near Eugene where Tina resided. Possibly discarded by her brother in law. The money tumbled along the gravel bottom for 2-3 weeks to end up on TBAR. That is the short version for now there is a more detailed argument for this. If that is what happened it doesn't tell us who Cooper was but it tells us something else very important. A strapped packet of 100 bills is also called a "strap". 7:19 in video Himmelsbach.. "There were ten thousand twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of a hundred bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands."

Georger once again demonstrates his lack of case knowledge. To defend his gross error and inability to admit it.. Georger writes... "REPLY: Packet is not a formal banking term! No bank including the US Federal Reserve has the slightest idea what Flyjack means by "packet". All said packet is NOT a formal banking term. No bank organises its money in "@packets"! SeaFirst could not have delivered its ransom money to Cooper in packets ... because SeaFirst doles not have the faintest idea what a packet of money is! All say Flyjack has invented a term which has no meaning in reality!EU should take note of this fact for his next invention/speculation about the Cooper ransom. " Georger is 100% wrong.. never ever trust anything that comes from Georger. So, we look at the FBI Cooper files... which destroys Georger's dishonest and ignorant screed. Checkmate, Case closed.. PACKETS, PACKETS, PACKETS. You lose, admit you have been wrong and move on.

This is getting silly... Georger still doesn't understand the "packets".. this is so simple. The bills were all in a random SN order.. so random means count for this discussion. Larry Carr claimed the 3 bundles found were each in random counts. He was wrong, they weren't random counts and they were really in "packets of 100 bills each". He claimed the bundles were random counts and rubber banded. This is correct but because Larry incorrectly thought the "packets" were "bundles", his conclusion was wrong. He incorrectly applied the correct premise to the packets instead of the group of packets, the bundles. This is why it is crucial to correctly identify "packets" and "bundles".. Larry and Georger screwed this up 10 years ago and he still can't see the obvious error. Remember, the money went to Cooper in packets of 100 bills each. Those packets were rubber banded into random sized bundles. How did the money go to Cooper in packets of 100 each and get found in random counts... it didn't. Larry and Georger conflated the terms "packets" and "bundles" to erroneously conclude the packets were a random count.. they weren't. The bundles were a random number of packets. Those packets were rubber banded into random sized bundles. So, a single bundle may have 3, 4 or 5 packets of 100 bills each rubber banded into one bundle. Cooper received 100 packets of 100 bills each. Those individual packets were rubber banded into bundles. Each bundle had a random number of packets,, perhaps 3s, 4s, 5s per bundle. It is very likely the 3 TBAR packets of 100 bills each arrived as 1 rubber banded bundle. As the rubber bands deteriorated the 3 packets of 100 bills each separated slightly. The claim that the three packets only arrived on TBAR separately is bogus. For 3 packets to arrive at the same spot independently but together limits the means by which they could have arrived. More likely, they arrived in one bundle and the possible means by which they arrived is expanded. Since the FBI had the bill sequence on Micro they could easily compare and determine the TBAR bill count. What happened to the few missing bills.. 1. The bills were removed before deposit on TBAR. Potentially spent into circulation. 2. The bills were worn away due to erosion, perhaps they were on the top of the top packet in the single bundle. 3. The bills were taken, removed or kept after the money was found before the FBI got the money.

Re: TBAR bills.. The money went to Cooper in packets of 100 bills, they were rubber banded into random sized bundles. The packets themselves were not a random count. Larry Carr was wrong. The TBAR money was 3 packets, 100 bills each (one missing a few, either removed or worn away).. The FBI had the micro images of the bills in order. It would be easy to determine how many bills by checking the identifiable serial numbers at the start/stop of each packet of 100. The FBI did not need to identify every bill's serial number in between to get a total number. The most interesting thing is the missing bills.. were they removed prior to or post discovery or in some natural erosion??

No Georger, you are making an assumption.. the FBI did not record serial numbers for every bill found, you are making that up, many were fragments not individually identifiable.. That is proven by looking at the auctioned bills, not all have an identifiable serial number. PCGS just Identified bills that were not complete or identified within the packet. The FBI had the sequence per packet and could determine the total count based on that. The FBI didn't need to ID each bill or fragment with a serial number to get a total count. You have conflated two different things based on a false assumption. You assume that the FBI count of 280 was determined by identifying 280 serial numbers. That is false. They had the packet sequence on micro and concluded 3 packets of 100. (A few missing from one) 35 additional serial number were identified, that doesn't mean there were more than 3 packets of 100.. but if you want to believe there were more than the 3 packets of 100 based on your false assumption go right ahead,,, false assumptions have never stopped you before.

Georger wrote... "A 2018 article by CoinWorld You are not allowed to view links.Register or Login says that 35 more serial numbers were found by conservators working on the Ingram money, than the FBI previously counted. That brings the Ingram find to $6500." This is a common and often repeated misunderstanding and needs to be clarified. This happened in 2008 when 35 additional serial numbers were identified from fragments. It was not 35 additional bills, just newly identified numbers from fragments. https://www.pcgs.com/news/pcgs-currency-notifies-fbi-of-d-b-cooper-serial-numbers The TBAR bills were 3 packets of 100, a few missing from one but in the same order as given to Cooper per micro recording. The FBI did not identify every bill by the identifiable serial number but they had the sequence. PCGS identified previously unrecorded serial numbers from fragments within the 3 packets, they did not find additional bills. Claiming more than $6000 was found on TBAR is erroneous. The FBI had the sequences and it could easily determine the number of bills without identifying each and every serial number.

Have you checked the attic?

It has been called both.. there isn't an "official" correct one so I usually use TBAR.

That is Tina's story.. she also claimed it was against company policy and ALL the stews rejected tip money,,, but that event hadn't happened yet, it was later. But, why would that short comment appear in her local paper.. it has no context and there is no reason to reveal FBI info right before a big search operation. March 8, 1972... Tina's local paper. CYA "TINA MUCKLOW sister of MRS. LEE DORMUTH of Lower Makefield Township was offered a bundle of $20 bills by a hijacker and rejected the offer Miss Mucklow was a stewardess on the Northwest Airlines flight last November in which a hijacker took $200,000 ransom and parachuted out of the plane over the wilds of Oregon. She said she didn't accept the money because it wouldn't be right." FBI files.

Flo served Cooper the drink... Tena Bar is a coincidence.. it is a natural garbage trap from the river.. Tina moved to upstream of TBAR 1978/79. Tina wasn't offered money, SHE ASKED FOR IT. We don't know the exact amount,, a package or bundle (of packets?)..??

This is hard to imagine.. The Cooper hijacking case has gone on for almost 50 years, that is extraordinary. There are reasons why it wasn't solved and those reasons are also extraordinary. If it was simple, it would have been solved long ago. It would be irresponsible and reckless to not consider the theory that Tina kept the money she took from Cooper. The only "evidence" we have that she returned the money to Cooper is her claim and strange story.. Only Cooper and Tina know what happened to that money. .

Now this is an odd coincidence... On March 8, 1972 a short note appeared in Tina's local Bucks County Pa newspaper.. It read.. "TINA MUCKLOW sister of MRS. LEE DORMUTH of Lower Makefield Township was offered a bundle of $20 bills by a hijacker and rejected the offer. Miss Mucklow was a stewardess on the Northwest Airlines flight last November in which a hijacker took $200,000 ransom and parachuted out of the plane over the wilds of Oregon. She said she didn't accept the money because it wouldn't be right." This wasn't the same story she told the FBI. Tina claimed she requested some ransom money and TOOK it, she returned it claiming gratuities were against company policy. Lee Dormuth, Tina's brother in law was an FBI agent. Coincidentally on March 8, 1972 an FBI memo announced that the military was going to do a search for Cooper... a search was conducted weeks later. Why plant that story right before a search? Well, if Cooper and the money was found and some money was missing... Tina has covered her ass... That planted story in the newspaper makes no sense, otherwise. There is no reason for it to be published, it was withheld evidence, it had to be a pre-emptive CYA leak probably managed by Tina's FBI brother in-law..

Something like that,, that pack is probably newer as it has a barcode.

"All of the above enclosures may be destroyed at the Bureau upon completion of the examination." Q1 = cigarette butts Q1 disposition..

Not exactly.. Brown and Williamson made Raleigh's, headquartered in Louisville KY.. was sold to B. A. T. in the 20's. In 2004 R J Reynolds and Brown and Williamson merged. Prior they were rivals. For his hijacking, Hahneman had a pack of Viceroy's but he demanded 2000 Benson and Hedges... Viceroy and Raleigh are both filtered, 85mm, made by B & W, the difference was the marketing.. Raleigh had the coupon program. In the 60's, Viceroy was primarily smoked by women until a new marketing program aimed to redefine them using auto racing sponsorships... "In the 1970s, Brown & Williamson realised that the cigarette brand was mainly smoked by women and couples because the Viceroy brand was "less masculine than its key competition" and the brand had a "feminine orientation" according to internal documents. From the early 1970s onwards, B&W started to sponsor the brand via the Vel's Parnelli Jones Racing team in autosport championships such as the United States Auto Club and Formula 1 to give the brand a more "masculine" additude, similar to Marlboro" What is interesting is 7 cigarette butts found indicated they were Raleigh's, one was not Id'd but assumed to be a Raleigh. Tina smoked at least one cigarette. There were no prints found on them. McCoy was not Cooper. Calame and Rhodes wrote a book trying to make the case that McCoy was Cooper.. it is clear McCoy was not. So, why would a couple of smart guys with inside info make the claim? IMO, they knew he wasn't Cooper but wanted to convince everybody Cooper (McCoy) had died.

Interesting, any with glasses..

There were many more than 6 letters, I am studying some of them right now... maybe one or more can be linked to Cooper, but not yet. Ha, Ha, Ha, haven't read it, others have. The plant theory just doesn't make sense... the TBAR money was either unintentionally lost or intentionally discarded.

Can't beat the Cooper detector... alka-seltzer bottles, strings, nylon stockings and pieces of metal.. .

FBI interviewed a jump expert,,, Jumps was very survivable, in woods or water. Jump simple for an experienced jumper. Could have drifted up 5 miles. Footwear inconsequential.

FBI LZ.. red dot = Heisson

Cooper wore "non-lace type shoes of ankle length", that isn't loafers. .

NEW FBI file #47 is here: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-47-of-47/view