FLYJACK

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  1. The only way the light flashed or was seen twice was if the lever was moved from the up detent then back to the up detent then from the up detent... The light in the cockpit is triggered when the lever is moved from the up detent not when the stairs move or bounce up.
  2. 1963 Boeing in flight airstair opening test,, opened only 12 inches. Says couldn't be forced any more,, I assume that means using the control lever,, not standing on the stairs. So, if Cooper's initial try to open the stairs resulted in a 12 inch opening then he could have, in his struggle, put the lever back to up detent then forward causing the light to flash twice.. and going down the stairs would have been the only way to get them open, he may have gone down to test and back up.
  3. Yes, that is the problem,, that light is green and comes on when locked down. Tina said red light came on (about 8:00) and the stairs couldn't have been locked down.
  4. Well, I don't understand Shutter's comment about the aft stair light in the cockpit.. The FBI docs and Tina's claims are consistent that two lights came on,, one at about 7:42 and one about 8:00.. There are only two lights, a green one for stairs locked down and an amber light triggered when the handle is moved from the up detent. The second light was reported as red by Tina which can be mistaken for amber and the stairs were never locked down. That can only mean the handle was moved from the up detent and back at some point then forward again. Also, the sled test. Anderson was the pilot not Rat.. they discussed running the flightpath in the planning stage.. it makes no sense that they would not fly the fightpath given the opportunity. But, they dropped the sled over the Ocean. I have no doubt that they would have flown the flightpath, then headed out over the Ocean to drop the sled.
  5. Here is the FBI doc on the aft stair light in cockpit.. The red light (actually amber) only goes on when the lever is moved from the up detent... the aft stair light locked down is green. Tina said about 8 PM that the red light came on. Tina red light go on..
  6. In my mind, I think it would but without a real world experiment we don't really know. We don't have the unsprung force data.. The top 4 stairs are fixed and the last 11 are levered.. The airtairs were about level when open and at speed with no weight,, the end opening may have been 1.5 - 2 ft. If Cooper went part way, a few steps how far would the stairs have dropped? If they dropped only 2 ft more then they could have sprung back up and hit the top. You don't need the stairs to drop very far below level to recover the 1.5 - 2 ft gap above level. The key is the stasis/level vs the range of motion..
  7. This is interesting,, I know there were many hoax tips.. and this may be another. But here the runway across the River near I5 would be Pearson Airport which is very close to the flightpath.. I looked for a pond but couldn't find any really close but hard to tell for 1971, there appears to have been one about a half mile East of the runway back then.. it is no longer there. It is almost right under the flightpath.
  8. The problem with the sled test... The sled test assumes that Cooper stood at the end and jumped. The sudden full weight gone causing stairs to bang up. What if Cooper walked down the stairs backward and slowly let his body off the end while holding on to the rails. His weight on the stairs would have been significantly reduced and the air would have lifted his body.. his weight wouldn't have been on the stairs. Then hanging on with his body off the end, he just let go.. This method would not have caused the airstairs to bang up. What did cause the bump,, Cooper may have initially gone part way down the stairs then back up..
  9. Ticket agent remember's Cooper had "black hair".. Bill Mitchell also thought his hair looked odd like it was dyed.. This is odd.. an FAA official boarded the plane. (claimed) Was this the mysterious FBI agent many passengers saw on the plane?? or the person the crew claimed was a passenger trying to get back on the plane?? Geoffrey Gray mentioned pills for the crew... here it is. Cooper also got food for the crew.
  10. Again,,, newspapers.. Nov 26 newspaper reported that the back chutes were owned by Hayden. Hayden had claimed both his chutes were identical.. Here they imply they were different. A sky diver chute???
  11. A bunch of interesting things... from newspapers which are not always accurate. Drop test followed the flight path... the FBI docs claim a sled was dropped over the Ocean, that makes sense. The FBI plan was to follow the Norjak path. It is likely they did follow the path and then dropped the sled over the Ocean. Remember, the FBI claimed the placard could have come from the test flight. Now, we know Norjak did not have the emergency release system. Now, this is very crucial. This newspaper piece is confirmed by the FBI files. The rear stair light was on early, then when Tina went to the cockpit she saw a red light come on. The FBI assumed the first light was the stairs being unlocked and the second was the stairs locked down. This is wrong. There are two lights in the cockpit.. Amber light, the lever is moved out of the detent position. Green light, the rear stairs are locked down. Tina said she saw a red light go on around 8:00.. the light was amber but can be mistaken for red. The means at around 8:00 the lever was moved from the up detent position. The light wasn't green and the stairs were never locked down. The FBI is wrong, the second light was not the stairs in a locked down position. The only way these events could be resolved.. Cooper or Tina moved the lever from the detent position early (about 7:42ish) causing the amber aft stair light to go on in the cockpit. The crew said the light was on for some time. The lever was then returned to the up position and the light would have gone off. Then Tina in the cockpit saw the light go back on when Cooper moved the lever from the detent position around 8:00... It is likely that Cooper pulled the lever back to the up detent position then to open while struggling to get the aft stairs to go down. This indicates that stairs were closed near 8:00..
  12. I OCR with Adobe, newspapers in the FBI covert at about 90%... some are just poor quality.
  13. FBI Cooper file #54 up https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-54-of-54/view
  14. I have put Blevins on IGNORE,, nothing worth reading. I have been working on a NEW TBAR theory.. but some loose ends.. Trip 1 - Tina gets money Cooper inspects it, passengers deplane Trip 2 - Tina gets 1st back chute Trip 3 - Tina gets 2 front reserves Trip 4 - Tina gets 2nd back chute Trip 5 - Tina gets meals, maps, radio Stews leave after all chutes onboard. Taken by car, not fuel truck. I remember a fuel truck mentioned but can't find it. There were four fuel trucks. All passengers boarding in Portland used rear stairs. Per FBI...There were 36 passengers including Dan Cooper 6 crew 17 boarded at Portland (20 were listed/booked but 3 actually boarded on standby in Spokane) The confusion was that MacPherson had booked for Portland but had boarded standby in Spokane. The NWA flight manifest has Scott MacPherson twice, not a big deal. There were 36 passengers, 17 boarded in Portland. "It is noted that the manifest showing the boarding of Portland passengers, listed a total of 20, which included three names "W. MacPHERSON." Interview with Mr. WILLIAM R. MacPHERSON reveals that he is in the real estate business and had confirmed space from Portland to Seattle, but that he, his son SCOTT, and Mr. PAUL WEITZEL, actually boarded the flight at Spokane, where they had been on standby." "SAs HORN and FUHRIMAN then identified themselves to the passengers of the bus. SAs HORN and FUHRIMAN then determined that there were 35 passengers on the bus plus the driver," Final speculation,,, according to the crew a "passenger" tried to return into the plane as the passengers were leaving. Maybe that was an FBI agent carrying a 5th chute onto the plane.. that would resolve Tina getting the 4 chutes and money... the conflict for the chute packing card found left on the plane AND some passengers claiming to see an agent on the plane. Just a thought.
  15. The matchbook thing is drifting into the weeds... When we put together the FBI files, Tina's interview and Tosaw's claim.. There were two matchbooks, Tina lit the last match from Cooper's matchbook and grabbed one from the plane. Sky Chef was the Airline caterer.. Tosaw claimed Tina described the first matchbook as the ICS one. Agents have admitted to withholding info. I can see the FBI holding back the ICS info, only Cooper would have known this. The take away is.. though not explicitly stated.. the Sky Chef matchbook most likely came from the plane, not from Cooper. Trying to match Cooper to an external Sky Chef source looks like a red herring. Not so important.. The FBI doc inferred that a matchbook was used for notes at some point. Obviously, it had to be something very brief and it wasn't his demands. But I don't see this as helping advance anything. It is interesting but not useful now. Perhaps more info will come out that makes it clearer.. we only have a fraction of the FBI files and are trying to makes sense of things with what we have.
  16. Matchbook.. The reason he wanted to retain it was because he had written notes on it, not necessarily because of prints. The thought has been the tie was a plant because Cooper was careful to take other items, but if the matchbook was taken because of the writing then the tie "plant" theory is busted. Convey also means communicate. It is more likely notes were written on the matchbook than the matchbook was used to "transport" notes. Using a matchbook to "transport" notes doesn't make much sense. and there is no indication Cooper himself wrote the note on the matchbook.. I never said that. I believe the FBI passage indicates that the matchbook was used for "communication"... not transport
  17. Cooper's matchbook was the ICS one and according to Tosaw after it was depleted, Tina grabbed the other "Sky Chef" one from a cabinet.. Chasing the source for the Sky Chef matchbook is a red herring.
  18. Another Cooper myth busted... the money couldn't be moved by natural means... I found a natural mechanism to move the money from the "FBI" flightpath to TBAR. and it was in Spring, matching the diatoms.
  19. I found that NORJAK era 727's had compass heading on the Flight Data Recorder. Northwest 727's used the Fairchild Model 5424.. I can't confirm NORJAK had that model. However, the 5424 FDR recorded compass heading. NORJAK's FDR was analyzed by Boeing. The compass heading is not the path.. but a divergence from a path can be determined. edit,, point is a substantial variation from the path would be determined
  20. What if… The pilots claimed a passenger tried to get back on the plane,, but pushed him off.. If that was not a passenger but an FBI agent trying to sneak on as passengers were leaving, then that may have been the person Finegold saw.. That may pull it all together..
  21. CBS Evening news piece on TBAR money find Feb 13 1980... at 18:25 Feb 12 1980.. (is he saying B D Cooper) act now and you can get one of those fancy Mercury XR-7's..
  22. Here it is... DFS346 posted... on Shutter's site that a passenger indicated the FBI came on the plane with chutes and money,,, That didn't happen according to the FBI's official narrative.. Tina went out and got the chutes and money, making several trips. However, another passenger Larry Finegold (above) did make the claim that an FBI agent came on the plane but he later changed his story.. So, we have a conflict. Either the witness is a fraud or he has confirmed Larry Finegold's first claim and he has revealed info that has been covered up by the FBI (and witnesses) with a false narrative.. both alternatives are concerning.
  23. I studied the comics extensively and the author was in the Pacific Northwest mid sixties and Florida late sixties. He would explore an area take pics and use them for his stories. He was well connected in military/aviation circles.. I also found that the comic was published in Mexico for Latin America in Spanish.. the French only thing was wrong. There is a vector between Hahneman and the publisher Herge. The IGY.. Ultimately, I believe the Cooper comic was probably an interesting coincidence, unless more evidence is found.
  24. Perfect, I found Mount Rainier is in a Dan Cooper comic book,,,, from Lake Tipsoo Crazy right... Cooper comic on right..