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I don't remember the mention of Cooper smoking with the left hand.. Some people switch when they use their dominant hand. Himmeslbach did note cigarette stains.. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/11/22/Folk-hero-to-some-sleazy-rotten-crook-to-others/7021533019600/ "Himmelsbach thinks other clues to Cooper being an ex-convict were the 'atrocious foul language' he used in talking to a stewardess and the way he smoked his cigarettes. Cooper was a heavy smoker and was indifferent to the fact that the smoke curled through his fingers and left nicotine stains, a trait Himmelsbach said is common among prison inmates." but the FBI files say cigarette stains were on Cooper's right hand.

It is in the podcast, It focusses on Cooper's characteristics vs Duane. The analysis is interesting but flawed, IMO.

I listened to it.. The problem with Duane Weber has been Jo Weber. She is a serial fabricator. Take her stories out and there is no evidence. Jo contacted me shortly after I joined DZ (like she did most) to convince me Duane was Cooper.. when I didn't accept it, she started lying about me to discredit me. Jo was very manipulative. Tim found a record of a deposit box of Duane's and is convinced it held the money.. and is stuck in finding out what was in it, so he is asking for assistance.. His bayesian analysis was interesting but logically flawed, I can do the same and get a 1 of 1 for Hahneman. I don't see any real evidence for Duane as Cooper.. Sometimes, I wonder if Jo was fed info by FBI/CIA as a misinformation strategy... to push Duane as a false Cooper.

I don't think it is the real Marla.. Did the trolls stop after the last time you got an event canceled, NO, they increased and your reputation took a big hit.. This is a losing move anyway it plays out. If you are willing to potentially ruin an event for people who have nothing to do with that troll.. then only you will be held responsible for your actions. Your vengeance is misguided and it will backfire.

It is very unlikely that troll is the real Marla. Bruce should police it better. But, you will be solely responsible for any actions that you take. You over generalize blame to everyone... tossing a grenade into a crowd hoping to hit a target based on assumption is never a good strategy. Based on your "belief", the entire Cooper world will turn on you. You will be held 100% responsible by people who have nothing to do with that troll that has nothing to do with CooperCon.. You can't win, if you complain about an anonymous troll and something happens everyone hates you.. if you complain and nothing happens, everyone still hates you. A huge mistake...

How do you know if that is actually Marla trolling you? Trolls don't use their real names. So, if you are wrong and you probably are, you will be making a huge mistake and potentially impacting lots of people completely unrelated to the troll you are trying to get back at. And that will sink your reputation to the sewer in the minds of everyone. Big mistake Blevins.. and I have no respect for Eric. I will never have anything to do with him but there are others I do respect that are involved. You will be potentially impacting them and attendees based on your false assumption.

Don't do anything stupid Blevins.. CooperCon is a separate issue from those trolls. Bruce might be out of town.

Cooper's initial demand was to lower airstairs in flight.. this is an irrefutable fact. It is in the pilot transcripts, Harrison notes and clearly laid out in the FBI files. FBI summaries leave out this initial demand and only state that he wanted airstairs down, this is misleading. I checked the FBI docs and timing.. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight. Fullstop. Cooper was told the plane did not have the range for Mexico and negotiations began. The pilots and Cooper went back and forth on the airstair position during negotiations. The pilots wanted to get Tina off the plane. Cooper wanted her to lower the airstairs. They agreed to take off airstairs up. So, Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered in flight but changed it during the Reno negotiations. His PLAN A was NOT airstairs down on take off. Cooper did not want to jump ASAP until Reno was in play, he did not want to be on the plane in Reno. He altered his original plan and his ultimate LZ was most likely not his PLAN A.

Complete nonsense.. Marla: Zero evidence, just childhood (false) memory recall.. Dan,,, who knows who he thinks Cooper is...

Looks good.. Wayfarer's https://www.amazon.com/Cooper-Flight-305-Reexamining-Disappearance/dp/0764362569 "The "D. B. Cooper" case is the only unsolved act of air piracy in US history. On November 24, 1971, a polite, nondescript, and dark-complexioned man calling himself "Dan Cooper" hijacked Northwest Airlines Flight 305, Boeing 727, between Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington. At Seattle International Airport, he demanded and received $200,000 and four parachutes, released the passengers, and ordered the crew to take him to Mexico. Somewhere along the way, he jumped. He was never found or identified. Forty-five years later, the FBI gave up the hunt. This book looks at the case from the perspective of a mathematician and pilot. It uses previously unexamined data and original-source documents, combined with the tools of statistics, aeronautics, and meteorology, to show where and how the FBI could resume the search and possibly find out at last who "D. B. Cooper" really was."

So, if the FDR records the magnetic heading and it was examined can't the flightpath be confirmed??

The dummy chute was grabbed by Linn Emrich,, but Cossey claimed it was grabbed in error by somebody who didn't know anything about parachute.. Cossey must be lying... Emrich would have know it was a dummy chute,, it was intentional. That dummy chute was the only one not sealed perhaps they did put a beeper in it.

Approximately $5800 determined by FBI lab... lab report not released to us.

Sioux City Sarsparilla can found in the same layer with the the TBAR money.. It started selling nationally July 1974. This was dated May 1974.

Suggests there is a NWA tape recording...

It doesn't read that way.. It says "voice recorder tape printout" and that must have come via Northwest comms. What system did they use. What tape recorder is this??

Yup, that is why it stands out and needs sorting.. Soderlind used flight recorder records... but that couldn't have been the FDR, it doesn't give those parameters. Here, it states the comm with Northwest Control Center,, could they have kept an open mic recording from Northwest?? Still need to figure out if Cooper's voice via the interphone could have been picked up.

Georger, you miss the point.. It is a printout of the recorded conversation between the crew and the Cooper.. A recording existed. The point is since a cockpit voice recorder is a microphone in the cockpit that picks up everything it might have picked up both sides of the conversation including Cooper's voice via the interphone. We know it picked up the crew side of the conversation, but unclear if it picked up Cooper. The other takeaway is that the recording would have picked up the crew and specifically Rataczak saying that Cooper "just took leave of us".. that was used early on to pinpoint the jump time. The exact timing of that statement has never been made public. Cockpit recorder is a mic in the cockpit not the FDR...

After a quick scan.. mostly news articles and posted already.. didn't see anything significant, but need to do a deeper dive.

All the other 727 hijackers survived.. Hahneman walked down the stairs backward and jumped in a back first position.. 377 believes this is how Cooper jumped. He was given a military rig from Andrews AFB..

Soderlind died in 2001. Article and interview from 2000. https://www.avweb.com/features/paul-soderlind/

Remember there was also that "little bob" at approximately 8:09 found on the FDR.. There is no doubt that the "pressure bump" felt by the crew was caused by Cooper leaving the airplane. Since the times for all the different comms were not synchronized and were rounded up or down at source, the debate is where exactly the plane was at about 8:10-8:13.. Rataczak flying the plane by hand would have known if he was over the Columbia, they knew where Portland was. In his presentation he agreed with Soderlind's analysis. In that presentation he said that they were flying unpressurized and the rate of climb/descent pressure gauge is used to measure cabin pressure when pressured to regulate and make it comfortable.. Since they were unpressurized, when the gauge goes to the extreme 10,000 ft there is a physical bump felt. Ratazcak said he got on the horn and said that, he took leave of us mark it.. << that communication is not available to us. Soderlind used this to create the early LZ.. further data supported this LZ with some very minor tweaks. Rataczak called Soderlind a genius. I believe based on crew statements that the oscillations were the movement of the needle on the gauge, not felt, the so called "pressure bump" was the extreme movement on the needle (oscillation) which was felt as a bump.. According to the crew there were minor movements (oscillations) for some time, they increased rapidly and were reported by the crew ending in an extreme needle fluctuation and bump felt by the crew.. this happens in seconds, not minutes. When the crew reported those oscillations in the cabin they were seeing a rapid increase on the gauge, the bump was the final extreme oscillation. From the crew's perspective the difference between the oscillations and pressure bump was magnitude. It was not a distinct event that occurred 7-8 minutes later. It was a rapid increase in needle fluctuation with a final extreme fluctuation and a physically felt "bump". The sled test confirmed that the gauge reacted the same as during Norjak. I don't see any evidence that puts Cooper jumping over the Columbia, only contradictory. The zone is from the Lewis R/Merwin to Battleground.

Snow is wrong,, Shutter is 100% correct.. The sled test proved that the "pressure bump" was caused by Cooper exiting the aircraft. The movie stunt is irrelevant, the conditions were not the same. Here, before the sled test they had determined from recordings that the bump was either Cooper exiting or going down the stairs. The test showed no significant pressure change when they descended the stairs. Further, We are missing a big piece that the FBI had used in their analysis.. the cockpit recording when Rataczak said he just took leave of us... For people to still claim that the FBI got it wrong or were confused with no evidence to support that claim and with less information than the FBI had at the time is just ridiculous. The FBI had various communications records, cockpit voice recordings, FDR and fresh crew memories...

This is why you are irrelevant. Just from your statement it is clear you have no comprehension of these issues. You fail to understand that when the crew noted they could see the lights of Portland that it means they knew where Portland was. You fail to understand that if Cooper ordered the pilots to fly over I5 that doesn't mean they did or were able to at all times. and you run to Shutter's site and make completely false statements.. to gain support. Why do you people always find it necessary to make false statements, are you that insecure. You people are nuts. FACT: the Sheriff's notes say the pilots were ordered to fly over I5. I never claimed they were visually following I5, YOU ARE LYING. We don't know if they were or could. FACT: Rataczak said Cooper jumped ABOUT 28 miles North of Portland that is ABOUT 8:10. Ratazcak has said elsewhere that Cooper jumped at 8:10. ABOUT 28 miles North of Portland is not even close to the Columbia River... Rataczak was flying the plane by hand, he would know the difference. Herding cats would be easier..

I got some pushback on this,, Here is what it appears,,, if Cooper ordered the pilot to fly over I5, due to conditions the pilots may not have been able to see the I5 lights all the way. North of Portland the path drifts miles East of I5 but South of Portland they were closer to I5. So, they may have been trying to follow I5 but couldn't see it the entire time.. The takeaway is that Cooper (if true) wanted to and expected to use I5 to determine his position, this is a basic aviator technique for night navigation.. Ultimately, Cooper may not have been able to see the I5 lights, we don't know.