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Gunther could have obtained the FBI files via FOIA.. Reading his book he must have had some of the files. This is from 1980 before Gunther's book, don't know if this was Gunther or not, but people did access FBI files via FOIA way back.

The Max Gunther book, an enigma.. a blend of truth and fiction. I analyzed it through the lens of Hahneman a while ago and found many similarities but no smoking gun, but the book needs to be broken into three parts. First is Gunther's experience and interaction with "Cooper", "Clara" and others.. these should be factual being from his experience. The timeline fits Hahneman, he was in NY, in fact he was staying half a mile from the phone drop at the Pan Am building NY Gunther described. That is a hell of a coincidence. Cooper's last contact with Gunther was in April 72,, Hahneman did his hijacking early May and went to prison until 1984 just after Carla contacted Gunther. The two letters in Gunthers book appear to be typed by different people based on formatting. Hahneman had a younger sister, may have been the "Carla" not her real name. Second is the description of the hijacking. This would have been obtained through research like newspapers, contacts and FOIA FBI files. Somewhat accurate but there were some glaring errors. The Elsinore stuff could have been obtained from the FBI files through Himmelsbach or FOIA. Last is Carla's story, the least reliable. No corroboration, a blend of half truths and fabrications to tell a story. This is the crazy stuff,, it is impossible to separate fact from fiction.. Example,, LeClair was born in Canada went to the US young had college and joined the US military. Hahneman was born in Honduras went to the US young had college and joined the US military. Was Honduras changed to Canada to hide his identity? LeClair was interested in electrical but went into chemical sales. Hahneman was an electrical engineer and some electronics sales. LeClair resembled Ben Gazzara.. Hahneman resembles Ben Gazzara.. LeClair wanted to disappear from his wife/family and read True mag articles about it. The 1960's article mentioned quoted a "Fred W" as its subject. Hahneman wanted to disappear was estranged from his wife/family, his name is Fred W Hahneman. He also fled to Honduras using an altered ID. LeClair wears glasses Hahneman wears glasses I have a bunch more things in my notes but in the end I have no idea if these are just coincidences or if Hahneman and his sister could have been involved with Gunther and there seems to be no way to resolve it.. There is just no way to separate fact from fiction in Carla's story. Initially Cooper asked for money but last contact was April 72,, Carla contacted in 82 but her motive was to make Cooper look good and claim he died. Carla didn't ask for money. Was she trying to bury Cooper prematurely? I sense Gunther was sincere but was he hoaxed or not?

Cooper may have come to Portland by plane perhaps days earlier but unlikely he left by plane, (if he survived), just too risky. He probably left by bus or one theory I have been working on is that he went to Vancouver BC, stayed at the YMCA, flew across Canada to Toronto then re-entered the US back East. But we really have nothing solid before and after the hijacking..

Right time, right place, right plane. Time, he wanted a night jump Place, he wanted a passenger light plane and short flight with less chance of Air Marshals Plane, he obviously wanted a plane with rear airstairs like a 727..

Eastern Airlines summer 1971 Braniff 1972 Continental 1970 Western airlines 1968 United 1969 United Feb 1971

Airlines serving Portland 1974.. Schedule TO Portland 1974... http://www.departedflights.com/PDX74p1.html to find an arrival FROM Portland.. http://www.departedflights.com/74intro.html http://www.departedflights.com/PDX74intro.html Airlines and Aircraft Serving Portland, Oregon Effective April 1, 1974 BRANIFF INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS Aircraft Operated: Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200 Destinations Served: Dallas/Fort Worth (TX), Seattle/Tacoma (WA) CASCADE AIRWAYS Aircraft Operated: Beech 99 Destinations Served: Pasco (WA) CONTINENTAL AIRLINES Aircraft Operated: Boeing 727-200 Destinations Served: Burbank (CA), Denver (CO), San Jose (CA), Seattle/Tacoma (WA) EASTERN AIR LINES Aircraft Operated: Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200 Destinations Served: Seattle/Tacoma (WA) HUGHES AIRWEST Aircraft Operated: Fokker Friendship F-27, McDonnell Douglas DC-9-10, McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30 Destinations Served: Boise (ID), Eugene (OR), Medford (OR), Pasco (WA), Seattle/Tacoma (WA) NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES Aircraft Operated: Boeing 707-320 FanJet, Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200, Boeing 747-100, McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Chicago O'Hare (IL), Honolulu (HI), Seattle/Tacoma (WA), Spokane (WA) PAN AM Aircraft Operated: Boeing 707 Destinations Served: Honolulu (HI) UNITED AIRLINES Aircraft Operated: Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200, Boeing 737-200, Boeing 747-100, Douglas DC-8, McDonnell Douglas DC-8-60, McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Boise (ID), Chicago O'Hare (IL), Denver (CO), Eugene (OR), Los Angeles (CA), Oakland (CA), Pendleton (OR), Reno (NV), San Francisco (CA), Seattle/Tacoma (WA), Spokane (WA) WESTERN AIRLINES Aircraft Operated: Boeing 720, Boeing 727-200, Boeing 737-200 Destinations Served: Los Angeles (CA), San Francisco (CA), Seattle/Tacoma (WA), Vancouver (BC)

My theory is that Cossey made up the chute description or guessed wrong,, he said a 28' NB6 then it changed to a custom NB6/8. Perhaps it changed because he was making it up, it changed to make the 28' fit. I found this comment in the first Cooper thread.. Is this accurate??, if so,, putting a 28' in an NB6 wouldn't make sense for an emergency bailout rig. Another comment said the NB6 was very tight and jamming a 28' in would be a very hard pull,, that also doesn't sound realistic for a bailout rig. January 31, 2008 i really doubt that a 28 ft canopy would fit in the smaller nb6 container. i have packed nb6's and i gotta tell ya its tite.extending the container so a 28 would fit would not be legal as an emergency parchute.the faa approves military personel assemblies for use (i dont recall the wording in the f.a.r.s )but unless the container was built with extensions at the factory and there was a military drawing/ contract #, it would nt be legal for use as an emergency parachute. of course if cossey DID somehow manage to put the much bigger (ABOUT 200 sq feet) and bulkier 28 ft canopy into the smaller nb6 container ,then cooper would likely have had an extremely HARD pull .remember,this was back in the days of cones(which the nb6 and nb8 containers had 4), NOT closing loops. rigs with cones exhibit higher ripcord pull forces than the same container with loops.

A heads up for everybody.. You can still access lots of the Washington Historical Society files at the following links.. do separate searches using "Dan Cooper" and "D.B. Cooper" to get all the files https://www.washingtonhistory.org/research/collections-search/?search_term="D.B.+Cooper" https://www.washingtonhistory.org/research/collections-search/?search_term="Dan+Cooper"

Tosaw interview.. Cooper is at the bottom of the river.. "straight down like an anvil"

It seems you didn't even read the doc I posted. We can also call this a so-called hijacking,, how do we really know it actually occurred. I said the preponderance of the evidence supports the "FBI" flightpath if you want to believe otherwise go ahead but unless you have some new evidence then I am not interested. In the doc I posted Rataczak indicated a range and the endpoint was his call (logged) to Soderlind which was in the suburbs of Portland.. He had never claimed the "bump" was in the suburbs of Portland as has been claimed before, he gave a range which is roughly Merwin to Battleground just like Soderlind's analysis. That doc and other evidence clearly rule out a Columbia River landing or next to it. I am not interested in the Western flightpath theory, the overwhelming evidence supports the "FBI" path.

The person went back and dismissed the material found,, they claimed the interesting part is the money floating in the air.

I wasn't pointing at you.. For as long as I can remember the Columbia River landing theory existed, obviously due to the TBAR money find. I even considered it myself at one time. Recently, Chaucer and Snowmman have been pushing it or a variation like Cooper landed next to the Columbia River along the FBI flightpath. The evidence clearly rejects that. For your Western flightpath theory I don't see any evidence to support it. The preponderance of the evidence supports the "FBI" flightpath. Since the map was a plot with a one mile error the actual path may vary sightly.. The evidence is clear that the "bump" occurred roughly between Merwin and about Battleground making that Cooper's jump zone. To move it you have to show that either the "bump" was not Cooper leaving the plane or the flightpath was wrong.. and I haven't seen evidence for either.

Stay tuned..

Sure, the argument/theory was that Cooper landed in the Columbia until Tom's diatoms came up.. then the argument changed to landing next to the Columbia.. The document I posted along with other evidence shows that the pressure bump occurred between about Merwin and roughly Battleground, not near the Columbia.

This is the smoking gun... this should end the Columbia River landing speculation. Rataczak telephoned Soderlind 5 to 10 min after last contact at 8:05.. The "bump" aka oscillation occurred between 8:05 and the call to Soderlind 5 to 10 minutes later.. Rataczak has stated elsewhere that he thought Cooper jumped around Merwin and was gone before Portland. Here he gives a range, the end point is the suburbs of Portland, but the range stated is not where he thinks the "bump" occurred, he is referring to the call to Soderlind. Otherwise, he would not have given a range. The call to Soderlind was in the suburbs of Portland. Obviously the "bump" was some time before that. There is no way the "bump" was over/near the Columbia or beyond Portland. If the "bump" was Cooper jumping he must have jumped roughly between Merwin and Battleground exactly where the FBI/Soderlind analysis indicated.. they had the call log. The only argument left is to claim the "bump" was not Cooper leaving the plane.. I don't see any evidence to support that.

Looks like the old band is getting back together...

The color Sketch B was created to more accurately reflect age and swarthy complexion.. Sketch B is more accurate than Sketch A..

Ditto.. FBI file part 67 was posted.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-67-of-67/view

Blevins is just trolling and spamming this thread with non Cooper stuff for attention. It will never end. He is incapable of reason or self awareness. His case knowledge is poor. Anybody who gets a moderate understanding of the case knows KC does not fit the evidence. Blevins lies about people to discredit them. He refuses to admit when he is proven wrong. He threatened to damage the Cooper Conference. Blevins is just toxic for the Cooper case overall. He exists in his own world that people do not want to be a part of. I just did a really big media interview and to come back here to be reminded of the toxic environment of spam, lies, personal attacks and denial of facts from Blevins makes me not want to post anything... I put him on ignore but he posted lies about me knowing I had him on ignore.. So, if Blevins actions get the thread shut down, so be it. I am done always having to correct that trolls misinformation. I have a really good (non suspect) TBAR theory that I considered posting, Tom Kaye thought it important enough that it should be a part of the Cooper case discussion. I am actually shocked that nobody ever came up with it before. It fits the flightpath, Cooper's LZ and the spring diatoms. It is complex to explain in a forum, opens up many avenues for further research and would take a lot of work to post it but I just don't care, maybe I'll save it for another format or another time. Since Blevins has made this thread into his personal social page I am just not interested in posting anything. But, I will report Blevins lies and spam every time he posts it. He has nothing to say about Cooper, at least not anything accurate. My research is almost done,, I am expecting some final documents within months.. I have so much information there is no way it can be posted here in this format anyway.. I might have over 5000 files of information. It has become overwhelming. I'll be exploring other ways, maybe videos or podcasts.. or some media that have contacted me. The hard part is distilling all the information into a presentable form.. for both Cooper newbies and experts. That is a massive project that I never wanted to do. So, go ahead Blevins, the thread is all yours tell us amateurs all about Cooper.

That isn't the definition of spam. Nobody else currently posts personal and OT stuff incessantly like you do. You did much more than ask if I was Gypsy23. You used your invisible friend via innuendo to smear and discredit me.. This is a DB Cooper thread, not a Blevins therapy session. The vast majority of your posts are not Cooper related and I will report you every time you post spam, lies or OT nonsense. I suggests others do as well.

You repeatedly falsely accused me of being Gypsy23 among other lies, I told you that already. You lie and spam this thread with your personal stuff over and over. It is clear you are trolling and seek to get the thread shut down because everyone is sick of you polluting the thread with your off topic spam posts.

Everybody should report Blevins every time he trolls this thread with his personal stuff or lies. The admins won't pay attention unless they get many complaints..

It is clear that Blevins is just trolling this forum. I suggest every post Blevins makes that is OT everyone should report, starting with the one above. something like this.. "RobertMBlevins" is repeatedly posting personal off topic material after being asked not to, treating this forum as his personal facebook page undermining the purpose of the thread. They don't do anything until they get a number of complaints.

Are you suggesting the nuclear option or a human sacrifice..

Museum of Flight does DB Cooper,, first error, passengers and Cooper entered via the rear stairs, not the front haven't watched the rest