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BINGO... Outside of Jo Weber I can't confirm the scar on the hand or the slanted/sloped forehead. She did have contact with agents and got some info that way, perhaps the store break in, she also made up a lot of stuff. Gray's book mentions the "sloped forehead" but no source..

Well, the sloped/slanted forehead tracks back to Jo Weber as well... unbelievable

Found another Cooper bill, Himmelsbach had this one. A particularly nice one. Snow can steal this one as for his list well then insult me. L38673217 A 1969

He bumped it to early December.. Looks like his Cooper reproduction jump was just South of the Columbia..

Question... I have heard for years that Cooper had a sloped forehead near the hairline, but I can't find the source.. Is it legit or another Cooper myth??? Does anybody have a source, I searched the FBI files and couldn't find anything. Also for bonus points, the scar on the left hand rumour tracked back to Jo Weber, any other legit sources??

There it is,, The FBI solved the Cooper case based on junior super secret agent Blevins KC report. They kept it quiet and closed the case.. probably too embarrassed having Blevins solve the case. That is the epitome of confirmation bias...

That is one of my theories... I am working on.. somebody else asked the same question, I have several reports that mention moving dredge material upstream for various projects but aren't very specific, those reports are in a folder of hundreds of reports. I looked and couldn't find which ones it was in.. I'll look again but it might take some time, there were several reports buried somewhere in my computer.. I recall Sauvie Island shoreline and there was a dredge operation that moved material and dumped it in the middle of the Columbia.. my impression was that material was moved all over. I didn't find anything that indicated a specific dump on TBAR. But, I recently found this.. part 9 page 206

Good point.. I was so busy on the chutes I didn't think of that.. Blevins would say they figured it out from him... The FBI couldn't investigate KC but Blevins did and that is how the FBI knew he was Cooper. The FBI just filed Blevins work and called it solved. No need to investigate special junior agent Blevins has done all the work. It doesn't matter that KC doesn't match the description and there is no evidence..

I know,, WE are exposing his hypocrisy and poor case knowledge to everyone else.

Cossey was the only source for the sage green NB6/8 chute description,, that is the point, he was wrong. Hayden never ID'd the missing chute as an NB6/8.. but you claim it was. So, your argument is null and void. That was the entire point,, Cooper did not use that NB6/8 described by Cossey. He used a Pioneer from Hayden.. You were confused and still are. Cossey's NB6/8 false claim is the center of the parachute vortex... it undermined the entire case. They were looking for the wrong chute and IT WAS NOT THE AMBOY CHUTE. Delete your articles. We know what happened to the other chutes, repeating that is irrelevant. Now, you claim Flo almost Id'd KC but then you claim witness descriptions are unreliable. Jarvis never said KC was Cooper and whatever he did it was just an opinion. Without Jarvis backing it up it isn't evidence at all. You don't know his reasons for anything. How do you know all the FBI had was Lyle,, that is an assumption. They could have had lots to investigate. Your argument is essentially that the FBI couldn't investigate KC but years later you could. Nonsense. It isn't so much that you make up things whole, but you elevate irrelevant things and over represent their relevance while suppressing contrary facts. Classic confirmation bias. Your arguments conflict themselves. Anything that supports your KC narrative you accept and anything that rejects it you dismiss.. follow the evidence not your conclusion. You claim KC matches the sketch A but claim sketches are unreliable. You claim witness descriptions are not reliable because KC does not match. If he did you'd be screaming it. You claim you have witnesses but those are unsubstantiated peripheral opinions 40 years later. So, if you eliminate sketches and witness descriptions then almost anyone can be made to fit Cooper. I have thousands of pieces of info Hahneman and have not found anything to eliminate him. I found a reason for the FBI to eliminate him but it was 100% FALSE. I have zero interest in sharing any of it with you.. I have no problem if you reject him with virtually no knowledge, you are not a serious thinker. You can't even get the chute issue right without screwing it all up. If I had evidence, not assumptions to reject Hahneman I would. Conversely, there is evidence that rejects KC and no supporting evidence. You need to admit what everyone with good case knowledge knows, KC was not Cooper,, Ulis manned up because of the evidence.. knowledgable people did not accept Sheridan.. Now it is your turn. It is over Blevins. Kenneth Christiansen was not Cooper, there is no case for him.

That was entire argument that you have had wrong from the get go, the chute Cooper took was a Pioneer with SN 60-9707 year 1960 and that doesn't match the Amboy chute markings.. Cossey was wrong, he identified the wrong chute, an NB6/8 sage green chute. Yes, you are wrong.. yes, delete your Amboy chute stories.. So, that was painful.. unwinding your misunderstanding for a simple and obvious issue. Imagine going over thousands of documents,, YIKES And even after showing you your error you will continue to think Cooper took Cossey's sage green NB6/8 and continue claim the Detlor report proves something that it doesn't.. You throw out a strawman lie claiming I called people stupid... of course I didn't say that, they are new to the case and naive. This case is very complicated with a lot of misinformation and disinformation.. you contribute to that. You wonder why people don't like you. Now, admit KC was not Cooper, he wasn't swarthy or olive, he didn't have full curly/wavy/marceled hair.. he did not even resemble Sketch B.. in fact there is nothing that supports KC as Cooper. He was investigated by the FBI and according to you that is enough to eliminate a suspect. Even Ulis finally admitted it after claiming 98% certainty,, time for you Blevins..

Where does it say in the Detlor report that Cooper used Cossey's sage green NB6/8? I'll save us the time,, it doesn't. You are claiming it is evidence that proves your conclusion, it doesn't. It proves that Cossey's description was wrong. You seem to be unaware of that. So, the Detlor report proves you are wrong. But in your confused backasswords world you claim it is evidence to support your position. Really crazy stuff. I guess you'll never understand the evidence. Cooper used Hayden's back chute an olive drab Pioneer with tan cotton harness, Steinthal canopy 1960 SN 60-9707 packed by Cossey May 21,1971.. Cooper did not use Cossey's sage green nylon container. sage green harness NB6/8. Hayden never confirmed that, the Detlor report does not confirm that. The only source for that is Cossey's claim repeated in the FBI files. You are just making up a conclusion without any evidence and the evidence contradicts it. That is exactly how your Kenneth Christiansen narrative is constructed, layers of speculation, exaggeration, embellishments and opinions combined with a denial of real evidence. The people attracted to KC are naive and new to the case, he was not Cooper. Not because I think so but because the evidence says so.

Eric Ulis admitted he thinks Sheridan cannot be Cooper.. credit to him. Now, it is your turn Blevins,, admit Kenneth Christiansen was not Cooper.. he doesn't match the evidence. Man or mouse..

OK, I just figured out where Blevins has got this completely wrong.. Initially, all four chutes were to come from Issaquah, but they secured the two backs from Hayden and only needed the two chest chutes from Issaquah.. But, Cossey was not aware of that initially.. He thought the backs also came from Issaquah including his custom NB6/8 Sage green nylon container/sage green harness. He was contacted by the FBI and informed that a Pioneer was left on the plane so he assumed the other was his Sage Green NB 6/8.. So, he described that chute to the FBI. In error. Cossey's description conflicts with all the other chute descriptions in the FBI docs. Cossey was made aware of Hayden and must have soon figured out that he made an error and got the chute wrong.. Instead of correcting his mistake he kept telling shifting lies to cover it up. He never gave the FBI his records.. and told obvious lies about the chute. Only two back chutes were sent to the plane.. Hayden's. Hayden's chutes were the two Pioneers matching the two packing cards found on the plane. The 1957 SN 226 was returned to him and the Pioneer 1960 SN 60-9707 is missing,, Cooper must have taken that chute, Hayden's. NOT Cossey's custom NB6/8. Cooper did not jump with the NB6/8 described by Cossey. Hayden never claimed or confirmed his chute used by Cooper was an NB6/8 sage green nylon container/sage green harness as Cossey claimed.

Blevins,, You do realize that Cossey claimed his NB6/8 used by Cooper was Sage Green nylon container and Sage Green harness.. that conflicts with the Detlor description and many references in the FBI files. All references to an NB6/8 green nylon container / green harness come ONLY from Cossey. ZERO corroboration. Cossey was wrong about Cooper using (his) NB6/8... You actually believe Cossey and Reject Hayden and the evidence. Cooper used Hayden's olive drab / tan cotton harness Pioneer. Confirmed by the packing card found on the plane.

Blevins, You have no idea what is going on... stuck in 2011. You are so confused I can only laugh..

Not NO,, YES there were two packing cards found on the plane that match Hayden's description of the chutes. You are very confused. The Detlor report does not conflict, as you keep claiming. This is why people get irritated, lose patience and want to block you... You are mentally stuck in your own narrative and cannot accept your own inconsistencies. Hayden rejected Cossey's parachute claims, you claim to believe Hayden not the liar Cossey.. but your conclusion is the opposite, you have accepted Cossey's claim of the NB6/8 with no corroberation and reject Hayden and the packing card evidence found on the plane. Blevins, you are confused and just not a serious thinker. Hayden never claimed his chute was an NB6/8..

There is a part 2 and 3 up as well..

You didn't even answer the question,, and clog up the forum. The chutes were both Pioneers, a '57 and a '60, probably different colours but the only real difference was the manufacturing date,, he may have just picked the newer one, the 1960.

There are reports that Cooper inspected the chutes,, Tosaw said he pulled the cards, that isn't confirmed in FBI files but likely since the two cards were found. The chutes were both Pioneers, one a 1957 returned to Hayden and one a 1960,, the 1960 is missing so it may be that he just chose the newer one.

Blevins, you are wrong Hayden said the chutes were identical and he disputed the FBI descriptions.. even the FBI descriptions are inconsistent. Now, you dismiss the packing cards.. which corroborate Hayden's claims and you believe Cossey, a serial liar. Those two Pioneer packing cards are Hayden's two chutes.. you can't have it both ways, both of Hayden's Pioneer back chute cards found in the plane and Cooper using Cossey's custom NB6/8. You are incapable of seeing what is right in front of you because you have to maintain a narrative. As the evidence emerges the conclusion changes,, you hold a conclusion and dismiss the evidence. You have your logic backasswards.

I am not claiming more than four chutes were delivered here.. Do you understand that you keep making arguments that are not relevant here and demonstrate that you actually do not grasp this. Two back chute packing cards were found on the plane one was missing its chute, both Pioneers packed by Cossey May 21.1971.. those were both of Hayden's chutes sent to the plane. Cossey was a serial liar, there is no corroboration to his claim that the missing chute was his custom NB6/8.. Cossey initially erred assuming his NB6/8 was grabbed from Issaquah, it was not. He soon learned of his error and lied to cover it up.. So, yes, you need to delete your Amboy chute claims.

Blevins, you are completely clueless, I am not going to explain this to you. You are making patronizing and belittling claims above that are not in dispute because you do not comprehend the issue. You have no idea what is going on. This is why you irritate people. I have covered all this here before. I am not going to unwind your confusion for you. The Amboy chute was not Cooper's.. Cossey was wrong initially and later lied about Cooper using his custom NC6/8. A card,, a Pioneer with a 1960 Steinthal SN 60-9707 packed by Cossey on May 21,1971 was found on the plane without its chute... Cooper must have used that chute, not Cossey's NB6/8.

How do you know Cossey correctly identified the missing chute as his modified NB6/8... Cossey initially misidentified the missing chute and then lied for years with shifting stories to cover it up. Cossey never provided his records and there is nothing to corroborate Cossey's claim. You admitted Cossey was a liar.. and believed Hayden. Well, Hayden claimed his two chutes were identical. But, the clincher is that there were two back chute packing cards found in the plane, both packed by Cossey May 21,1971. Both Pioneer's, SN 226 card and chute was returned to Hayden but a card 1960 SN 60-9707 found on the plane was missing its chute.. Cooper must have used that missing chute, a Pioneer 1960 Steinthal SN 60-9707,, that does not match the 1946 Amboy chute. Cooper did not use Cossey's customized NB6/8. I believe he thought they were going to take his back chute from Issaquah but they didn't need it after securing Hayden's chutes and only grabbed the two chest chutes. He initially made an error based on an assumption, then he never corrected it and covered it up with shifting lies. I already explained all this here in this forum with the evidence, but you have an irritating ability to just ignore things that don't fit your preset narratives. Time for you to delete all your Amboy chute stories.

The markings on the Amboy chute don't match..