FLYJACK

Since the treasure has been found, the Forrest Fenn'ers have shifted to the HAHAHA book thinking it was written by Fenn and that Fenn may be Cooper.. they have found some similarities in the book to Fenn's writing. They are scouring the planet for the HAHAHA book.. and pushing up the price. I actually worked on the Fenn treasure and my spot was on the Madison R close the where it is believed Fenn hid the treasure.. I am very familiar with both Fenn's Chase and Cooper and there is no way Fenn was Cooper. It is lunacy. The evidence doesn't support it, he doesn't match the description, he does not fit the profile. Fenn may have done some shady deals but a hijacking/skyjacking is another level altogether. Most hijackers were actually mentally ill, a few others very desperate.. Some were killed, all were identified except Cooper. A hijacker harms people and risks their life and long prison time.. The Fenn people need another adventure to fill the void from Fenn's treasure being found,, their limited knowledge on Cooper has enabled a groupthink confirmation bias toward Fenn. For new people to the Cooper case it is Rorschach, you see what you want.. and you can make almost anyone fit... there is a ton of misinformation out there. Let Fenn rest in peace, he was not Cooper, you are disrespecting him.

Happy 50th anniversary NORJAK... today and Happy Turkey neck day for Americans... tomorrow.. gobble gobble

There are some Forrest Fenn guys pushing a Cooper connection on youtube.. I worked on the Fenn treasure hunt, there is no way Fenn was Cooper, it is ridiculous.

Maybe he is still under instructions from the FBI to not reveal anything publicly regarding a suspect ID. That was what I was worried about, even if he did see a suspect pic and think maybe,, he wouldn't say anything without first talking to the FBI.

That is expected. There goes my idea... Some said in the mid 70's witness memories were already fading.

Does Bill think after all these years he could identify Cooper?

Yup, I just sent him some info on sodium chloride tablets.. used for dehydration in Vietnam and elsewhere.

Were there any new revelations??

Obviously, we don't know if the bomb was real.. I took the other side of the argument to challenge the dominant thinking. He did mention the radio possibly setting it off, that may have been a ruse, but maybe not. But, I try to imagine myself in that situation with only a fake bomb, that would put the hijacker in a vulnerable position with sky marshals potentially on board. Cooper was fortunate only the stews saw the bomb, but that was not guaranteed. If somebody called his bluff, he was likely dead. So, I think the bomb was real or if it was fake he must have had a backup weapon even if just for confidence.. Imagine robbing a bank with a fake gun... crazy. In SKYJACK Gray claimed that Cooper said to Tina "They're not gonna take me alive.." I haven't found that anywhere, Gray may have just made it up,, does anybody have a source for it.

This is pure gold... it perfectly exemplifies Blevins flawed thinking and his KC narrative. Blevins evokes Bernstein as some sort of investigative standard.. but Bernstein (like Blevins) pushed the Russia collusion hoax with zero evidence, none.. many were duped by it due to a personal bias against Trump. The media pumped it for years, the intel community pushed it so it was accepted as fact. Critical thinkers were skeptical as there was actually no evidence. and we now know it was a hoax started by the Clinton machine and then advanced by partisans in the FBI/DOJ. It was actually an attempted coup of a sitting President. One of the biggest scandals in US history. No matter what you think of Trump that is some serious stuff.. But people like Blevins can't even recognize this, they are so invested in their own bias they subvert any critical thinking ability by discrediting contradictory facts and embellishing supporting information. Bernstein fell for it as did many others.. and now that it has been exposed the bias is so strong that people still believe the hoax.. it is a form of self denial. Even Woodward looked for two years and concluded there is no evidence. This is exactly the problem with KC as a Cooper suspect, there is no evidence to support him as Cooper and the evidence eliminates him but Blevins personal bias prohibits him from acknowledging reality. It is a self imposed delusion. My experience with people like this is that there is no amount of reason, logic or evidence to convince them that their reality is wrong.

They got lucky... had a tipster. Bernstein went all in on the Trump Russia collusion hoax.. got it wrong due to bias.. he has become a parody. Woodward finally admitted there was no evidence. These guys have become political grifters.. not a good analog...

This is interesting,,, A Sioux City Sarsparilla can was found in the same layer as the money but wasn't produced until 1974.. Palmer was asked about the chards at 3' depth, he said that there is no conclusive evidence of money at depth and surmised that it was from the digging process.

Nobody believes Snowmman on the TBAR bills because he is wrong.. The FBI files do indicate the lab got approximately $5800.... we don't have the report. 280 bills, they were in 100's, that is 3 packets one was short, either removed prior to deposit or eroded from the top.

The problem with the Cooper case is that there is actually very little evidence. We have very few facts directly related to Cooper.. So, it is easy make a suspect fit some points.. Even the FBI claimed in 1976 that they could never get a prosecution without the co-operation of Cooper. The witness memories had faded and there are very few facts. I have been putting together a list of Cooper facts and a profile to compare to a suspect and it is only about 70 points.. Most of the high profile suspects fit very few of the facts/profile. The only way to put a suspect on the plane is prints or DNA, both of those are uncertain/incomplete.

Well, I'll set my expectations low... "Hollywood" usually tells an over stylized story,, not really the truth.. But, you never know.

My cropped image with yellow map. original image

The bump vs oscillation,,, I have an interview with Ratazcak and he explains it like this.. The pressure gauge is used for the crew to regulate the rate of climb or descent in the cabin to make it more comfortable. They were unpressurized and when that gauge goes to the extreme a light goes on and you feel a significant bump in your ears like a car door window opening at 70 mph on the highway. He said on the radio "I think our friend just took leave of us.... mark it on your radar screen" The evidence indicates they were getting minor bumps and oscillation for some time but suddenly the gauge reacted violently aka oscillations and the extreme oscillation was also felt as the "pressure bump". So, the pressure bump was an oscillation, an extreme one and the final one of a brief series. This is occurring in seconds not minutes. When the FBI did their analysis they had the crew with fresh memories and communications that we don't have. We don't have the time Rataczak said "I think our friend just took leave of us". Logically,, all pressure bumps felt in the ears are gauge oscillations but not all gauge oscillations are pressure bumps felt in the ears. To claim they were completely distinct events is false. The timing was analyzed through various comms and the FDR and it was from 8:09 for the FDR up to 8:12, these times were rounded and not synchronized to each other the time they settled on based on all inputs was 8:11 but that can be + or - a minute or two. Further, the crew stated they were in the suburbs of Portland, if they were virtually over the Portland airport they would have known it,, I would argue that would have known if they had passed the Battleground VORTAC. The other issue is.. was the "pressure bump/oscillation" caused by the hijacker or by him going down the stairs. Solderlind made that point before the sled test. That purpose of that test was to solve that issue. Soderlind stated that the pressure bump oscillation was either caused by the hijacker going down the stairs or the hijacker leaving the plane,, before the sled test. The test showed no significant pressure change when a man went down the stairs, they also had gauges setup in the passenger section. I don't where the sensor is for the cockpit gauge. Also, they dropped two sleds, the first was inadvertently dropped with somebody on the stairs. The second one caused a reaction exactly the same as was experienced on NORJAK. Soderlind revised his LZ using all the data. It runs from about the Lewis R to about Battleground. Gauge reacted violently,, (Rataczak.. extreme oscillation = pressure bump) Co-pilot recorded.. Soderlind before sled test,, bump/oscillation caused by UNSUB going down stairs or leaving All three crew members felt the bump in their ears. During test, stairs lowered by hydraulics and dropped to only about 20 degrees, were stable. With a person walking down and standing on them no drag and no indication on pressure gauge. At the moment the sled left the crew had the same experience in their ears as NORJAK and the cabin pressure gauge reacted violently. The stairs were compressed to nearly full extension..

You are just wrong.. KC and many other suspects do not match the case evidence. I don't reject them, the evidence does. I have thousands of pieces of information,, no way I am going through all that on a forum. I am not defending a book or an article or anything. I am stating facts, if you can go find actual evidence to challenge that go ahead. You haven't, you just call me a liar because I don't post all my research. I don't care. Marty asked about his parachute experience and I answered with the facts I know. And I was hammered by people early on so I decided to post very little on Hahneman and not reveal my research. I was getting bogged down in explaining things.. I am researching this for myself not for everyone else. I realized that there is no way I can post all the information in an appropriate way so that others can properly assess it. People were also assessing suspects based on the advocate not the evidense, I don't agree with that. So, I focussed on non-suspect specific case evidence.. and avoided the Hahneman details. The difference is you need to SELL KC as suspect because there is no case there,, I don't need to sell a suspect and I sure as hell don't want to.

I am not a newspaper reporter... so your premise is heretofore rejected. and I wasn't making an argument.... lots of guys were in Vietnam. what is the big deal..

I stated the facts. "Worthless" is subjective. You seem to be calling me a liar with no facts to back it up. I wasn't using the FBI's claim as evidence of anything. The FBI claimed he was in WW2, Korea and Vietnam.. that is vague.. I tried to independently confirm that but I can't get Korea and Vietnam military records. However, there is corroboration that he was in Vietnam for many years. The FBI actually stated when he returned from Vietnam.. What I can't confirm is what he was doing there throughout all the years he was there. One source says he was a pilot in Vietnam.. one says Vietnam vet, one says Vietnam and Cambodia, another says "paratrooper".. they may have meant parachuted.. and not in the Airborne Division. He was an electronics engineer. I did find a pic I believe (99% sure) is him in Vietnam... There is some info I am still trying to obtain that might give me more details.. There is no doubt he was in Vietnam, the question is what exactly was he doing while he was there.

You see you can't read,, I said the FBI claimed he was also in Vietnam and Korea... I could not independently confirm his military records other than WW2, but I can confirm he was in Vietnam for many years. I am still trying to track his activities in Vietnam.. He was there, I just don't have a full picture of what he did there. His mother even said his experience there changed him.. So, you are making false claims AGAIN about what I said. What I said is 100% accurate. I did find that he worked for many CIA contractors and backed companies including during the Guatemalan coup, USAID (CIA) and on a NASA contract. It is possible that he was sheep dipped.. that is really difficult to figure out.. He was all over the world... in crazy places during crazy incidents. None of that has anything to do with Cooper. Many contractors worked for the CIA... that isn't a big deal. And I don't really care if anyone believes me,, why should I? Have you actually ever solved a case?

No that would be false,, it isn't my claim, it came from the FBI. That is a FACT. A term you seem to be unfamiliar with.

The FBI claimed he was on an aircrew in WW2, and in Korea and Vietnam.. I confirmed WW2 and his records were lost in the fire.. Like I said,, I can't get Korea and Vietnam records but I have confirmed he was in Vietnam for many years, I just can't confirm exactly what he was doing there. That is what I have been working on.. it looks like a combination of military and contractor.. I found a Vietnam image that is a 99% match for him but I can't be 100% sure.. If I told you what he was doing you would blow a gasket... There is no baloney.. You seem upset. and I have thousands of pieces of information,, I don't owe it to anybody...

You are making stuff up, I didn't embellish anything and I don't have to back it up for you. You are under the mistaken belief that I owe you something. I don't need to sell Hahneman, you needed to sell KC because he wasn't Cooper.

My view on the chutes based on assessment of all the info.. this may not be exact but close. Cooper requested 2 front and 2 back chutes. Himmelsbach claimed he requested them from McChord. McChord either didn't have them or rejected the request. Cossey was contacted at home and forwarded the request to Emerick at Issaquah Skysports. Cossey believed the 2 fronts and 2 backs to used were his from Issaquah. Hayden was also contacted and agreed to send in two back chutes. He claimed the chutes were the same but never saw the canopies. Emerick was informed they now only needed the two fronts. He grabbed 2 fronts, a good one and a dummy chute. (speculation is that he intentionally grabbed the unsealed dummy) Hayden's back chute SN 226 and the other SN 60-9707 with the two front chutes from Issaquah were sent to the plane. Both backs packed by Cossey May 21,1971. Early on both back chutes were described as having burp sacks, that is consistent with Hayden's chutes not Cossey's. Cooper was told (incorrectly) by the crew the chutes were coming from McChord. In Reno, the dummy was missing, the good front was cut apart and back chute SN 226 was found intact with the SN 60-9707 packing card. Chute SN 226 found on the plane was returned to Hayden in 1975. Cooper used SN 60-9707 Pioneer back chute but had left the packing card behind. Cossey was contacted and told a Pioneer back chute was left in the plane. Cossey incorrectly assumed the one Cooper took was his modified NB6/8 from Issaquah. There is no corroboration for Cossey's description. Cossey learned that the back chutes came from Hayden but never corrected his error. Cossey never supplied the serial numbers for the chutes he packed for Hayden. He claimed that he gave all his records to the FBI. He did not. Over the years Cossey told various lies to cover for his initial error, even claiming his chutes were used and one was returned to him. The FBI relying on Cossey and his (incorrect) back chute description falsely eliminated many chutes found over the years. The Cooper chute SN 60-9707 may have been found already.