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Can we just rename this the Blevins Facebook page...
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No, not me, I have never reviewed any book on Amazon or online ever.
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So called "Witnesses" can be BS'ers or embellishers. When Richard DeCample the fuel truck driver was interviewed back in 1971 by the FBI he claimed he didn't see the hijacker, only the crew as the rear of the plane was dark lights out. In a 2017 media interview he claimed he saw the face of the hijacker. He embellished his story for the media because he knew that elevated his experience and involvement. https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/investigations/author-invites-public-to-solve-db-cooper-mystery/281-493832199 "Richard DeCample remembers the moment he saw one of the most famous faces in American history. "I had hooked up to the airplane and I was under the wing, but I could look up and I could see him looking out, but I'm like, 'What can he see?'" "DeCample says he was in the process of transferring fuel to the plan when he glanced toward a cabin window and saw the face that's been memorialized in those famous DB Cooper sketches." Blevins so called witnesses are not credible either. They are making claims/opinions 40+ years later about an event they have no direct knowledge of to an amateur researcher not under penalty of perjury. Witnesses like this, including McCoy's kids need corroboration because people lie, exaggerate, speculate and manufacture memories all the time. When Chaucer tried to discredit Ratazcak I posted news reports going back over the years that confirm Ratazcak was telling the same story.. Chaucer then applied his worn out strawman tactic to claim I only rely on news reports.. where did Chaucer go by the way.. he seems to have run off after his argument got decimated with the facts. Ratazcak is solid. Chaucer's Columbia R argument amounts to discrediting Rataczak, the FBI, Soderlind, me, the crew, logic, Santa Claus, Ghandi, the sled test and participants.. with no evidence to support it. The totality of the evidence shows the "bump" occurred between Merwin and Battleground. The only possible way Cooper jumped into or next to the Columbia is if the "bump" was not Cooper leaving the plane. That is an entirely different argument and I have seen no evidence to support that. The big "bump" felt by the crew was the last one..
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I got Edwards book for Christmas. I avoided reading Cooper books until I developed an independent understanding of the case, though I did get Tosaw's book for the money serial numbers. Without a high case knowledge level you can't read them critically and easily get tainted by author bias. First off, it looks amazing, the cover is great, the images are top notch the citations are extremely thorough. It will be a must have for anybody interested in the Cooper case. I haven't read it thoroughly but my book has a print flaw,,, "chapter 2" on the top left page goes right through chapter 6. Hopefully that gets corrected and this one goes up in value. I have skimmed it and found an error with the stair lock light.. the light goes on when the handle is moved from the up detent. For the light to go out the handle must be returned to the up detent. So, if Cooper moved the handle from the up detent but did not push it forward to lower the stairs then the light would be on but the stairs not moved. If Cooper returned the handle to up detent only then would the light go out. For the light to go out the stairs must be up AND the handle back in the up detent position. IMO, Cooper initially tried to open the stairs but they didn't drop much so he moved them back up putting the handle back in the up detent then opened them again, causing the light to go out briefly.. The handle must be back in the up detent for the light to go out. Here is a diagram of the NWA 727-51 airstair operation.. there are two door warning lights on the crewman's panel, one is a locked down and one activated by the up detent handle position. I don't see anyway that Cooper locked the stairs in the down position.
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He wasn't wearing loafers, another myth.. It was laceless ankle length shoes. No evidence Cooper worked for Boeing. He had flying knowledge, didn't understand the rear stairs. For a Boeing employee to commit a high profile crime like that in SEATTLE that would have led to his easy identification. That is almost like robbing the bank you frequently use. As for Air America... maybe he was involved or just heard about it, but there is a very high probability Cooper was in Vietnam..
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Excerpt from recent article.. https://www.smokejumpers.com/index.php/smokejumpermagazine/getitem/articles_id=443 by Johnny Kirkley, his account of jumps/drops from a 727 in was also written about many years ago but never mentioned the flaps 15, landing gear down and speed, though it was a static jump. Frankly, it sounds like revisionism perhaps after talking to Edwards earlier. However, the story is important and may have been where Cooper got the idea. He may have been part of it directly or indirectly. IMO, Kirkley added the plane config to make the story fit Cooper better but it doesn't diminish the potential relationship. In May 1968, I was scheduled to "The Ranch" for a special project. Ranch operations were always on a hush-hush, need-to-know basis. When hired by the CIA, all employees are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. You promise not to reveal any information relating to "intelligence sources or methods" without first securing authorization. The slightest violation would compel threats of prosecution and severe consequences. No copy of this document was given to the employee. Clearance levels were granted for special ops as you were vetted. At "The Ranch" details of the mission were given when you arrived on site. We were told that the training was for testing the feasibility of making aerial deliveries into Tibet. This highly secret project was the first of its kind. We were to drop cargo and jump out of a Southern Air Transport "sanitized" Boeing 727 jet. The tail number was the only marking on this stark aluminum plane. The team included Lou Rucker (OSS/CIA), T.J. Thompson (MSO-55/CIA), Bob Herald (MSO-55/ AFS), Fred Barnowski (MSO-42/CIA), Jack Manska (CIA), Bill Welk (727 pilot), Jim Rhyne (Volpar Turbo Beech pilot), Johnny Kirkley (CJ-64/AFS), Billy Bowles (RDD-57/AFS), and a couple other "Kickers." The passenger compartment of the 727 was fitted with roller conveyers to transport the cargo out the rear for drops. The rear stairwell was removed and retrofitted with stainless sheet metal to make a sliding board. The cargo was loaded in large cardboard boxes rigged with parachutes and tied to pallets atop the roller conveyers. The process of aerial delivery was the same as in other aircraft. The load to be dropped on each pass was untied and moved to the rear against a nylon strap. When the pilot gave the order to drop, the strap was cut and the load was pushed out the rear. The cargo drops went without a hitch. Then we suited up for our parachute jump. We leveled off at 1200 feet. The cabin was depressurized, flaps were set at about 15°, the landing gear was lowered to create drag to maintain 150 knots, and the exit ramp was lowered. When we got over the jump spot, the pilot gave the signal and we slid out the rear of the plane. Compared to jumping out of a prop plane, there was no noise or prop blast. It was quiet and there was hardly a jerk when the static cord released. We floated down with the greatest of ease. Knowing what to expect, we were all excited to make a second jump. The tests went well and the project was approved and ready to go. However, the funding was cut and the 727 Tibet project was cancelled, much to our chagrin. Postscript: Fast forward to Monday morning, November 29, 1971. When I retired from Air America in August 1969, the "Call of the Wild" lured me to Alaska. I decided to put my University of Alabama Bachelor of Science business degree to use. I had just begun the second year of owning and operating the Polar Bar on East 5th Avenue in Anchorage. I was having a cup of coffee and talking with a customer when two suits walked through the door. They showed me their FBI badges and said they were investigating a Northwest Airline Boeing 727 skyjacking on the night before Thanksgiving. They knew I had jumped out of a 727 with Air America and wanted to ask me a few questions. Since their statement was correct, I assumed they had been talking to the CIA. First, they wanted to know where I was on Wednesday night. When I explained I was working the bar they showed me a drawing of Dan Cooper, asking if I knew him. I said it did resemble Lou Banta (CJ-51), a smokejumper I had worked with at Air America, but he wasn't on the 727 jump project in Thailand. As a coincidence, Louie happened to live in Oregon not far from where Cooper supposedly exited the plane. However, after being investigated, Banta was exonerated. We had a good laugh in Portland at the 2008 Air America Reunion. D.B. Cooper became a cult hero and remains the only unsolved skyjacking in American aviation history. In past years a standing joke at Smokejumper and Air America reunions was, "D.B. Cooper Lives!" .......... This is the earlier piece where he did NOT note the plane configuration and named Louie Banta (CJ-51), (he was researched and exonerated) https://dc.ewu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1085&context=smokejumper_mag Kirkley was later selected as one of seven air-freight specialists sent to Takhli, Thailand, on a secret mission to train to jump and drop freight from a commercial Boeing 727 jet. “There was unrest in Tibet on the Chinese border and the CIA wanted to do some tests to see if it was feasible to make high-altitude drops of paratroopers and cargo from a 727,” he said. After making a few jumps and dropping several loads of cargo, Kirkley said the mission was eventually scrubbed. “Fast-forward to the first week in December of 1971 in Anchorage, Alaska,” Kirkley said, continuing his story about being trained to jump from the back of a Boeing 727. “I was in my second year of owning and operating the Polar Bar on Fifth Avenue in downtown Anchorage. I was having a cup of coffee and talking to a customer when two men dressed in suits entered the bar. They showed me their FBI identifications and told me that they were investigating a skyjacking that had taken place in Portland, Ore., on Nov. 24, the day before Thanksgiving. “A man called D.B. Cooper had extorted the airline out of $200,000 and jumped from the rear of a Boeing 727 over Oregon. They told me they knew that I had jumped out of a 727 when I was working with Air America,” he said. “They then showed me a picture of the suspect and asked if I recognized him. I told him that he looked like Louie Banta (CJ-51), who had been a smokejumper in Oregon and worked with me in Air America, although I didn’t recall him being one of the seven who jumped on the 727 project in Thailand. As it turned out, Louie also lived in Oregon, where D.B. Cooper deplaned, but Banta was thoroughly exoner- ated and Cooper has never been found. “Over the years since, it has become a standing joke at smokejumper and Air America reunions that D.B. Cooper lives,” Kirkley laughed, adding that his close friend and former Alabama track teammate Charley Moseley was also questioned by the FBI about the still- unsolved D.B. Cooper incident.
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Matching a suspect to the Cooper evidence/profile is the only objective measure. Blevins has skipped that in favour of a wildly speculative biased and self serving narrative. When you objectively compare KC to the Cooper profile, he does not match. Blevins will not do this because it exposes KC as a non-suspect. Selling a few books or downloads just doesn't change the facts. KC wasn't Cooper. That is not an opinion, that is an objective comparison to the facts.
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This in the money shot 302... Rataczak says Cooper jumped 5 to 10 minutes after last contact which occurred at 8:05. (8:10-8:15) This is important, he telephones Soderlind after the "oscillation" and stated it could have been the hijacker's departure between the 8:05 last contact plus 5-10 minutes and the call to Soderlind which WOULD HAVE BEEN RECORDED. Rataczak further states that they had not yet reached Portland but were in the suburbs.. here he is referring to the time of the call to Soderlind, NOT the time of the oscillation. He was stating a range with a start and end point NOT the exact point of the oscillation. This is consistent with Ratczak's other statements including the belief Cooper jumped much further North. They must of had the time of the call to Soderlind and incorporated that into the LZ. Clearly, that call to Soderlind before Portland puts the bump/oscillation well before the Columbia River. (unless you change the argument to claim the bump/oscillation wasn't Cooper jumping) 302, Soderlind used his notes and records to create the LZ. He must have had the time of the call he received from Ratazcak. Clearly, if the bump/oscillation was Cooper jumping, there is no way he jumped beyond Battleground and near or into the Columbia River. The only way that is even possible is if the bump/oscillation was not Cooper jumping and that is a very heavy lift not supported by any evidence. CKECK MATE
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Benzedrine and food for the crew.. and the same "rapid fluctuations in air pressure" noted in three other 727 bailouts in the next few months.
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The Cooper case goes beyond just the FBI files. I can't speak for everybody but I don't care at all about you releasing your findings.
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You have a demonstrated history of ignoring evidence and not admitting when you are proven wrong.. If you reject all the witness testimony then there isn't much left and almost anybody can be made into Cooper. Your KC case relies on casting doubt on all the evidence, not a positive argument. Your SOL argument was structured and flawed exactly the same as Chaucer's. Both were not a positive argument in that there was no evidence to support. Both relied on casting doubt on the counter argument. A very weak position. Both claimed everyone was wrong with no evidence to support it. And Blevins you still haven't admitted you were wrong on the SOL.. but you have nothing on Chaucer.. that is epic level denial.. I have never seen anything like it in this case. Go back and look at his argument, then my response. I refuted all of it with facts and he just ignores it as if it doesn't exist then employs a straw-man and a passive aggressive tactic to discredit me. So, to maintain his opinion he needs to shift his argument to claim the "bump" was not Cooper leaving the plane. Some of you need to be right or win a debate more than uncovering the truth.. This case is incredibly complex with a massive amount of information to process to come up with the truth. If the truth is not your primary goal, the VORTEX will destroy you. Your denial maybe goes to 5, but Chaucer goes up to 11.
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1. I never argued there was an official documentation from Rataczak,, I even stated there wasn't = straw-man. 2. There is evidence Rataczak called Soderlind, I posted the 302.. you are just wrong. 3. I also posted the 302 where Solderlind stated he used his notes,, you are wrong again. 4. Rataczak's said he reported it to ATC in 2011, earlier news reports corroborated it. Aslo, the 302 corroborates him telling Solderlind.. so strike 3,,, Either you didn't read my post or you are pretending not to. The evidence is there, if you choose to ignore it well that confirms everything. I have been at this Cooper thing for a few years and I have never seen anybody completely ignore the evidence posted for them as egregiously as this... not even Blevins.
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You need to reread my post above, it decimates your theory. I don't rely only on news reports, they just corroborate over time Rataczak's personal account. Your straw-man attack is disingenuous. There were two "jump" reports made, one to ATC and one to Soderlind. The 302 I posted shows that Soderind was called and involved right away. Your argument has no evidence, you rely on discrediting and casting doubt on Ratazcak, Soderlind and the FBI with far less info than they had,, then there is the FDR 8:09 bob and the fact that the crew would know when they passed the PDX/Portland Vortac and if they were over the Columbia... Overcoming that is a real heavy lift... and you have provided nothing I refuted your claims with evidence and you just ignore it.. Clearly, you aren't interesting in building a conclusion from the evidence. Unfortunately that is very common in this case.. and you just won't advance intellectually in this case until you park your ego. That isn't just me, everyone thinks that about you. It now looks, as expected like you are now trying to shift your failed argument to claim the bump was not the jump... that way you can ignore the evidence. Good luck with that one.
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Carr's statements are completely irrelevant for this issue. Soderlind did the LZ analysis and came up with the LZ map. You discount him erroneously. The "took leave of us" report from Ratazcak was also in newspaper reports over throughout the years. So, it isn't something recent he made up. Nov 26, 1971, hijacker took leave.. 25 miles North of Portland.. basically the same thing he said in the 2011 NWA DVD. DATE: Sunday, November 24, 1996 TAG: 9611250051 SECTION: HORIZON PAGE: 1 EDITION: METRO DATELINE: PORTLAND, ORE. SOURCE: MICHAEL TAYLOR SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE At 8:12 p.m., ``we felt a little bump and the air pressure changed,'' Rataczak said. ``I got on the radio to air traffic control and said, `I think our friend just took leave of us. Mark the point on your radar.''' Anderson reported that they reported the incident after some time but there may have been more than one report, they had comms with different parties. Rataczak said he reported it to ATC but here he also reported it to Solderlind at NWA. We don't have the "take leave" report but the FBI and Soderlind sertainly did when they calculated the LZ. You don't know what is meant by a "suburb", that is just an assumption. I read the "suburb" comment as the point when he talked to Soderlind. It is a fact that the crew knew when the passed the PDX/Battleground Vortac and that would been a marker in time. They would have known if the bump was before or after that marker and they said before. Ratazcak who was manual flying and making that turn thought Cooper jumped up closer to Merwin. So, I am not relying on statements made by Ratazcak decades later, those are corroborated by earlier statements. I am taking in the totality of evidence. 1. The statement does exist form him in 2011 and going back years in news reports.\ 2. Just incorrect, Solderlind was named by Rataczak and he is named in the 302's. Jan 9, he made the detailed analysis/map after the sled test that is in the 302's as well. 3. The crew was unsure if he jumped because they could not confirm it but they suspected that is why they reported it. The flaw in your argument is that you don't appreciate the that FBI files are not complete. We only have a fraction of the information available to the FBI, so it is a high bar to claim they got it wrong. Put all the pieces together there is no way Cooper jumped/bump at/near the Columbia, there is zero evidence for it and you need to completely discredit Ratazcak to make it work. All the evidence supports a jump/bump between Merwin and Battleground. BTW, because the FDR was the most accurate timestamp, that bob at 8:09 is when the jump/bump occurred,, the trick is figuring out exactly where the plane was with all the confounding unsynchronized timestamps.. It had to be between Merwin and Battleground. My top spot is Heisson.
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I think the tie clip is a bit of a red herring.. There are 2 tie tack holes, one very significant, that suggests the tie was usually worn with a tie tack and the alligator clip was a last minute addition... from https://citizensleuths.com/tie-clip.html There were very few of these marks indicating that the current tie clip was not removed and replaced very often. The permanent depression left in the tie, by the now absent tie tack, suggested that a single tie tack was present on the tie for an extended period of time.
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Yeah, that bomb story is clearly BS. People BS all the time.. or manufacture memories.
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I posted that to point out that the oscillation was felt,, aka pressure bump. Oscillations were seen on the gauge and both seen and felt as bumps. First, Carr also stated and it is true that information closer to the event is the most accurate. Second, Soderlind was involved according to Rataczak. He said he was a genius and figured out the LZ (NWA DVD). He was listening in and they pinpointed an area which was later confirmed with more data. There were slight revisions over time. Third, which report, Rataczak said he got on the horn right away. Unfortunately, we don't have that comm. Fourth, false, there are interviews with Rataczak who was flying the plane by hand that they could see the lights of Portland and Cooper was gone by then (Gryder). Rataczak He said.. the exact quote. "about 28 miles North of Portland he (Cooper) jumped out of the airplane" (NWA DVD). Fifth, It isn't an anecdote, in the NWA DVD he repeated it.. Rataczak said he got on the horn to air traffic control "our friend just took leave of us” “mark it” (That comm had to be logged and used in the DZ analysis) Lastly,, The crew knew were Portland was and PDX/Battleground Vortac would have been a significant position marker for the crew, they would have known if Cooper jumped before or after the plane passed that point. Also, that was just before they made a slight turn. They all believed it was before. So, there is really no way Cooper jumps beyond Battleground. The most accurate timestamp for a bump is the 8:09 bob on the FDR, if we accept the 8:18 position that puts the plane right about Heisson and that is right about 8:12 on the flightpath map. The problem is all the different event times are not synchronized so there is a variablity. Putting all the evidence together that we have, the highest probability jump zone is around Heisson and decreases toward Battleground but there is virtually no chance Cooper jumps beyond PDX/Battleground Vortac. If you want to claim the bump wasn't Cooper jumping that is another argument, but very weak.
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Exactly, if you reject the facts of the case then you can make anybody into Cooper.. I made a list of Cooper facts/profile and suggest you do as well so you can do an objective analysis. You can't claim KC is Cooper without matching him to the evidence. You know I have already said I am not making the case for Hahneman here and now. You make a conclusion from assumptions garnered from a few media reports, they aren't in context are misleading and incomplete, I have much more accurate direct information. Often the media is used for propaganda. Cooper was who he was no matter what I say or you say about any suspect. You keep trying to make me responsible for Hahneman, that is a straw-man, he was or wasn't Cooper irrespective of what I do or don't say.
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Rataczak heard and felt an oscillation and commented... a bump is felt. RATACZAK stated that approximately 5 to 10 minutes after the last contact with subject at 8:05 p.m., they heard and felt an oscillation of the aircraft and commented at the time that he could have departed, causing the unusual vibration since there had been no change in flight altitude, speed or any other external force which would account for this sudden oscillation. They telephoned the company representative, PAUL Soderlind in Minneapolis shortly there-after, and stated that the oscillation, which could have been the hijacker's departure, would have occurred between 8:05 p.m. and their call to Soderlind 5 or 10 minutes later, the exact time woud be recorded in the company log. RATACZAK stated that they had not yet reached Portland proper but very definitely in the suburbs or immediate vicinity thereof.
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Nicky, that is great stuff but it is GC and we have the transcript.. is there anything new there..
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Blevins, you are dodging.. Hahneman has nothing to with Kenneth Christiansen not matching the evidence. I don't have anything to do with KC not matching the evidence. You are employing a straw-man tactic to deflect because you know KC doesn't match the evidence. Your personal attacks are childish and irrelevant. This is simple, you write down the Cooper evidence/profile then compare it to KC.. I have already done this list and Hahneman is a near perfect match while KC is a disaster. You won't do it because you know KC will fail miserably and be exposed as poor suspect.
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Meaningless drivel. I am looking at the facts, it is not an opinion. Write up a list of for the Cooper profile, then compare KC.. virtually no match. Do it.. if you think he matches, prove it. You won't because he doesn't. I was even shocked how poorly he matched.. as a Cooper suspect he is a joke. Strip away the noise and list just the Cooper facts and profile, point form. McCoy matches better and he wasn't Cooper.
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KC was not Cooper. He doesn't match the evidence or the profile. That isn't an opinion, that is the evidence. Make a list of the Cooper facts and profile,, go ahead and compare it to KC. I have already posted more facts that match Hahneman than even exists for KC,, I have a list and KC barely registers. Downloads means nothing. You haven't solved anything. You can't even get the parachute issue straight. You bragged about your superior credentials, "You don't know everything Flyjack. I have done a couple of articles on the history and good-or-bad concepts of the death penalty in America. One of them got a half million views and was endorsed by a couple of anti-capital punishment groups. The Newsvine site no longer exists, but I later reproduced the article here: (Ten Good Reasons to Stop Executing People in the United States) So I am pretty familiar with the rules and how they have worked over the years. Probably...it seems...better than some law enforcement groups realized back in the 70s. A couple of the items in the article are dated only because the article originally appeared in 2009." You also said I was misinformed, the DOJ, US Attorney, Prosecutors and FBI were all wrong... they were correct. but you were wrong about the statute and the SOL.. and you STILL won't admit it. You just fail to accept the facts and there is just no productive discussion with people who can't accept reality. You have no track record of any success, you get most things wrong because you have proven you are not good at processing complex information. You also said this.. "You don't have shit for evidence. You never did. At least I was intelligent enough to release a public report with illustrations, a book, and several videos to back up my stuff. You have less than zero going." Obviously, you don't know that, you just made it up.. It is an assumption you make because I won't post my research for you. It is completely false and a good example for how you think. You don't know what I have but make false claims anyway. This is not the behaviour of somebody seeking the truth.. it is the behaviour of somebody who is feeling threatened. Blevins, I don't want to discuss this with you anymore,, it is a waste of time.. just noise. I proved you wrong and you still won't accept it. Clearly, you are immune to facts. I am trying to write something up and it is extremely difficult and complex. I hate writing.
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The answer is NO, you haven't solved anything. So who are you to criticize anybody.
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Have you ever solved anything?